What has been the silliest counterattack a RW'er has used to win an argument?

[ck4829]

Alright, so you're in a debate with a RW'er, and it's obvious you're beating the pants off him.

And then out of the blue he says "Yeah, well, ..."

What has been the most silliest or ridiculous point you have heard a RW'er make in order to try to win the argument?

[hatrack]

1. "Yeah, well, it was worse when Clinton was president!"

They never elaborate much after going over the cliff with this particular phrase.

[Buzz Clik]

4. and the popular variant: "It's Clinton's fault"

[cynatnite]

2. the bible said so n/t

[Poll_Blind]

3. Blocking me here on DU!

:-)

PB

[AndyA]

5. "George Bush is a man of God, and sometimes God works in mysterious ways."

I was speechless.

I think I responded, "It's important that you believe that" in a very condescending tone, and then I looked at them like they were nuts. I've used this a few times with RWers. They aren't really sure what I mean, but I assure you it isn't complimentary toward them! ;)

[ncrainbowgrrl]

6. "yeah, well- 9/11 changed everything"

Usually said with a smug face.

:hi:

[EFerrari]

16. The thing is, 9/11 didn't change everything but imho, Katrina did.

And that's usually what I say to the yearly Republican I am forced to intereact with.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

42. Ooooh, good one!

I like it! Mind if I use that line?

[EFerrari]

56. It's the truf! Go for it! :-)

[acmavm]

7. Nobody else can do the job as well as bush** can. He's trying to

protect all of us, even Al Gore.

_________________________________________________________]

That remark was by a family member of mine. Please note, I don't talk to my family members very often. The raging nut case not at all.

I live in Nebraska. They think Ben Nelson is a liberal Democrat.

[Flying Dream Blues]

8. Yeah, well, marriage is between a man and a woman...it's

in the Bible!

whatever

[electprogdems]

9. i heard it on faux news

or from rush or hannity or some other overpaid spew factory.

[TornadoTN]

10. "Things changed on 9/11"

Of course they changed, no disputing that. But they use it as a rubber stamp to ANYTHING you say about Bush or the current crop of Republicans. It doesn't matter if its foreign policy, domestic, taxes, gasoline, environment, etc. etc. etc. - once you get them in the corner they spout "well, things changed on 9/11 and that's why we are doing it this way".

That kills me.

[galadrium]

11. Reagan won the cold war.

[BattyDem]

12. "Yeah well, Clinton did (fill in the blank)"

No matter how bad * gets, the last resort answer is always "Clinton did this" or "Clinton did that." Their examples are usually RW talking points - not actual facts, so my response is, "Even if that were true, so what? So what if Clinton did it? Why does that excuse Bush's behavior?" :eyes:

[NoGOPZone]

13. "that's not really the law, only the activist judges made it so"

[EFerrari]

It's funny how judges became "activists" just about the same time

Republicans started breaking the law. lol

[wryter2000]

14. Seen on a yahoo board once

Regarding Bush's lack of service in the military. "During Vietnam, Bush was on a secret mission behind enemy lines looking for POWs."

[maveric]

28. You've got to be shitting me?

Was this a serious post? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[wryter2000]

32. As far as I could tell

There wasn't anything in there that suggested it was irony or a joke.

[Buzz Clik]

37. gawd. I've argued with really stupid knuckledraggers but never heard that.

Astounding.

[NoGOPZone]

41. There was NOTHING too dumb to appear on a Yahoo message board

It's almost a shame they've been removed. I once had a freeper say pre-Clinton the word 'bigot' had a different meaning than it does today. I still can't begin to figure out what point was intended.

[wryter2000]

86. Welcome to DU

:hi:

Clinton changed the meaning of "bigot"?

[NoGOPZone]

95. Yeah, it was all Bill's fault

Apparently, before he became President it just meant someone was nasty, not unfairly prejudiced. Again, what this was supposed to prove is beyond me.

[MindPilot]

50. Did he find any? Did he bring 'em back?

Apparently he fucked that up too.

[wryter2000]

87. LOL

:rofl:

[mrcheerful]

66. I had one respond to a post I made about if he was so gung ho on the war why he

didn't sign up and go fight. His reply? I can't I'm protecting my seed for future generations of true blood republicans. Besides, he's doing his part by posting about the liberal lier's.

[walldude]

15. I was arguing with a freeper once about Cheney's energy

task force and using energy company owners to make energy policy. His was response was "I can't think of anyone better".

[Buzz Clik]

39. Good one! I've heard that many times, too.

These same people aren't troubled by the Cheney-Haliburton connection and the amazing enrichment of Haliburton during Cheney's little war.

[Wizard777]

17. Bush's debate rant. I don't understand....... I don't understand.......I don't understand

:wow: No shit sherlock!

[wyldwolf]

18. I have three of them. You judge which is best

1. "The only reason people supported Bill Clinton was because things were so good (then realizing how that statement actually hurt her case, she continued...) ... but they just don't know how good things could have been!"

2. "Separation of Church and State isn't even in the constitution. At least that's what I've heard. I've never read the constitution myself..."

3. "We'll (conservatives) will eventually win. All you liberal keep having abortions so we're going to outbreed you."

[iconoclastic cat]

22. Damn, those are dumb. nt

[Dammit Ann]

25. #3, hands down.

That has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have EVER heard.

[Buzz Clik]

43. Corollary to #3:

3a. Between abortions and gay marriage, all the liberals will eventually disappear.

[MindPilot]

60. I love that "show me the words 'separation of church & state' in the Constitution" line

I respond with "the 'right to privacy' ain't in there either. So don't complain when a cop busts down your door and takes your bible."

[rhiannon55]

19. It's all Bill Clinton's fault

Bush "inherited" a bad economy, terrorism, a country mired in "hollywood values", ad nauseum, from that horrible BC. None of it was little Bushy's fault. :puke:

[Der Blaue Engel]

74. Thank goodness those Hollywood "types" are off the hook now that

San Francisco Values rule the House! :D

[BOSSHOG]

20. "I haven't served (Yet)!!! (referring to military service)

Ignorant miscreant berating me (24 year vet) about my lack of patriotism because I didn't think it was a good idea to march into Iraq. (This was November 2002.) I shared my military duty with him (28ish chump) and asked him where he had served. He then said matteroffactly, "I haven't serve yet!" End of conversation.

[MindPilot]

31. And the classic variant of that one...

"I'm fighting the 'war of ideas' here at home".

[Buzz Clik]

45. LOL! Ah, the brave Internet warriors.

With their keyboard as their weapon, they pepper the faces of their enemies with pellets of words.

[MindPilot]

70. In the early days of the Iraq invasion I asked a 20-something war supporter

if he would be enlisting soon.

"Naw, I don't like being told what to do."

I responded, "I'm sure when your ass gets drafted, the DI will take that into consideration..."

[Buzz Clik]

75. LOL! Nicely done.

[piedmont]

21. I've never debated Alberto Gonzales, but stating that the Constitution doesn't confer Habeas corpus

has got to take the cake.

[SteppingRazor]

23. Why do you hate America/freedom/the troops/etc./etc....

Or any other variant of that lame "When did you stop beating your wife?" canard.

[WatchWhatISay]

24. Tom Delay's explanation of why he didnt join up to fight in Vietnam

But this is like trying to pick the best needle in a haystack

[izzybeans]

26. "Great, Now I've pissed myself. Are you Happy? I'm sittin' here in my pee pants while we're at war!"

Not really, but that's what it sounded like to me.

[Bluestar]

27. It's the old--"All politicians are corrupt"

Used by my sisters about Bushco last summer. As if that excuses everything! Look at the recent past. The Repukes have resided over every major scandal, conflict or bad economy in the past 50 years.

[DaveJ]

36. I also hear that one a lot.

Almost every Republican I've talked to has eventually said "all politicians are dirty."

My reply: Then don't vote!

[Patiod]

29. "I'm not really a Republican anyway. I'm more a Libertarian" nt

[Buzz Clik]

48. My god, that's a classic, isn't it?

Funny how these "libertarians" don't seem to get upset as they watch Bushco use the Constitution for toilet paper.

[maxrandb]

30. The premise of your question is wrong

I've yet to lose an argument to a RW'er!

[Epiphany4z]

33. arguing about the election

them: do you know how little Taxes Kerry Pays?

Me: no but he pays that little because of whose tax policies? I thought you where all for that great tax cut?

I have an aunt who could probably give me some really good ones...end of times stuff and such ..but I learned a long time ago not to talk politics with her.

[Cleita]

34. Argument about why North Korea is getting nukes.

Freeper: "We should invading N. Korea before they nuke us."

Me: "If Bush hadn't pissed off Kim with his axis of evil speech, he wouldn't be devoping nukes."

Freeper: "That's a curious spin."

Me: "It's no spin. Bush said it."

Freeper: "We need to bomb the Hell out of them!"

Me: "Say what?" I walk away because it's hopeless.

Freeper yelling at me as I walk away: "We wouldn't be having this conversation if Bush wasn't protecting our freedoms."

[Buzz Clik]

52. Variant: "Carter and Clinton gave NK the nuclear reactors that allowed those bombs."

[atommom]

35. "Well, you never heard half the bad things Clinton did, because the liberal media

wouldn't report it!"

[MindPilot]

38. Discussing health care...

the righty's primary objection to single payer was "we would all be waiting in long lines".

When I pointed out that the last time I called our (this particular righty is a co-worker) provider for a routine appointment, it was six weeks out, I was told that in the socialist countries they don't make appointments; you just stand in line for weeks. She knew this because she has a friend in France.

[ieoeja]

67. Actually, there is something to this.

Found minor skin cancer when I was in the HMO. Took six weeks to get it worked on.

Broke my hand a few weeks ago while I have Point-Of-Service insurance. Saw specialist five days later. Had surgery one week after breaking the hand.

While it is ridiculous treating medical treatment like a luxury item, I don't want to see us go the HMO route either which is what the taxpayer-funded, single-payer option looks like to me. Right now the HMOs are screwing everything up in the attempt to make a profit. Were it in gov't hands it would be screwed up by Republics and the Media to "prevent waste". So we have to take the potential for fraud out of the picture.

And the only way to do that is with a complete overhaul of the system, not by throwing a bandage on it. Open up enough public hospitals to drive all but the most exclusive privates out of business. Put the MDs on salary and let them DO WHAT THEY THINK IS BEST knowing they're going to get paid a set salary regardless.

[racaulk]

40. "Yeah, well if America sucks so much, why don't you just LEAVE!!!"

Gotta love that old chestnut...

Then there's the "we haven't been attacked since 9/11" line, but they don't want to hear anything about the antrax attacks. It must suck to live in a world of denial and fantasy.

[coalition_unwilling]

61. When they yell at me "Go back to Iraq," I just yell back at them

"Go back to Nazi Germany!"

[oblivious]

44. If you disagree with me/Bush/the war, then you support the terrorists.

[Buzz Clik]

46. "Bush wasn't lying about WMD because he thought it was the truth."

[mrcheerful]

47. If you have nothing to hide

or Clinton's economy was good because Reaganomics made things good for Clinton. We are fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here. The insurgents are going to launch an amphibious attack of america if will don't stay the course. God made GW prezinut. God is on our side which is why we are winning the war on Iraq. There hasn't been another attack since 9/11. I can't join the military, I need to protect my seed for future generations of Conservatives like me but I'm doing my part to support the war by posting on this forum and showing the liberals as the lier's they are. Reagan never told a lie and neither has GW. Liberals destroyed the country under FDR. Fdr only got out of the depression because of WW 2. Bill Clinton planned to attack Iraq but the republicans stopped him from doing it. Iraq is no different then Clinton going into Bosnia or Somalia. Clinton started the war in Iraq, GW was left to clean up the mess. It's ok that GW lied about WMD's Clinton lied about the blue dress, besides the Iraqis smuggled the WMD's out of Iraq with the help of the USSR. Just some of the stuff I've seen and heard.

[stonecoldsober]

49. You're source - the New York Times?

ROFL!

[LoZoccolo]

51. "If there's global warming, how come it's so cold out today?"

Guffaw guffaw I'm smarter than them there meteorologists!

[Buzz Clik]

54. And this one: "These very same scientists were predicting another Ice Age in the '60s"

[Patiod]

59. That's George Will's only argument!

He's such an idiot.

[Buzz Clik]

62. The quickest way to cut off that argument is ask them to name names.

[mrcheerful]

57. I love the it's el nino's fault that it was so mild this winter. Spelled exactly the same lol.

[Patiod]

58. Ooo! I've heard that one!

Here's George Will's argument against climate change:

Some scientists in the 1970s thought the Earth was getting colder, so they must be wrong now, too.

[spoony]

82. That one gives me chills, no pun intended

Do these same people acknowledge global warming in the summer, then? :shrug:

[coalition_unwilling]

53. "Who[m] would you rather have as Prez: Bush or Saddam Hussein?"

[Buzz Clik]

55. "You only say those things because you hate Bush."

[AValdoux]

63. You can't believe polls

Just this week. When asked, "When are you going to leave the looney fringe 30% and come over to our side, the majority?"

He said, "You can't believe polls from the liberal media. Bush is still popular" This was said this week.

When asked about the recent election, "That was about Congress & corruption. Has nothing to do with Bush. The GOP got caught acting like Democrats."


AValdoux

[Patiod]

65. Those polls are bogus - they've never called ME

I heard an otherwise intelligent person say that on a roundtable talk show.

/yes, I deal with sampling, polling and interviewin for a living

[Der Blaue Engel]

77. "The GOP got caught acting like Democrats"

so everyone voted for Democrats! :rofl:

[racaulk]

64. On the Repukes losing Congress last year:

"They lost because everything was going so well that Republicans became complacent with voting and decided not to go to the polls this year. Besides, the Republicans can't win all the time!"

:wtf:

[mvd]

68. A couple, only for starters

"Global warming is just a means for Democrats to score political points"

"Activist judges!"

"But you're a LIBERAL"

"You'll go through the tribulations if you think that"

[mvd]

71. Another global warming one, from a blog I go to

"What happened the global warming nonsense now" - after the cold snap we are in started

[MindPilot]

80. That's been a standard joke of mine for a few years...

come in out of the cold and announce "sure glad to see we got that global warming problem licked!"

It backfired the other day when a rightly thought I was serious.
:banghead:

[jobycom]

69. Bush's recession was caused because Clinton's economy was too strong.

Seriously.

[distantearlywarning]

72. But,, Clinton did _________!!!!

Or Teddy Kennedy, or insert other Democratic person here.

News flash for any lurking Freepers: Just because someone else did something first, it doesn't mean it's ok for your guy to do it too, and it DEFINITELY doesn't mean that your guy has the right to do everything else bad he wants with impunity. It just means that our guy AND your guy were both bad.

My second favorite freeper response to an argument goes something like this: "Shut up, you faggot liberal pinko Saddam-lover!" When you see that, that's when you know you've really got them backed into a corner. :-)

[Superman Returns]

73. my girlfriend's dad blamed bill clinton

for the levees breaking in NO.

[Hobarticus]

76. "It'd be news if it were on the Daily Show..."

This, after I refuted a junk e-mail he had sent around.

He said it was "news", not opinion, because it said DENVER POST at the top. Like someone couldn't type that.

I replied, it's not news, it's a blatantly obvious chain e-mail that's been circulating for over a decade.

Then he delievered that bon mot.

Whatever, dude. Dumbass.

[KamaAina]

78. "Why do you hate America so much?"

Kind of a classic...

[LeftishBrit]

79. "At least he/she is a strong leader"

Often used of Thatcher, and I believe also of Bush.

To which a friend of mine replied, "Well, you can have a strong horse, and it can still pull you off the edge of a cliff."

[MindPilot]

81. And the corollary of that one, "imagine how much worse the 911 attacks

would've been with Al Gore in the Whitehouse."

:wtf:

[Bobbie Jo]

83. George Bush is a Democrat....

For the love of God, don't push him off on us.

Also...

Liberals want to raise taxes.
Fight them over there, so we don't have to fight them over here.
If you aren't behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them.
There are people in this world who want to kill us all.
There hasn't been another terrorist attack on our soil since 9/11.
Terrorists love liberals.
Unemployment is down....blah, blah, blah

[MindPilot]

84. Kerry's Purple Heart was just a publicity stunt.

I can't recall the exact words used in that particular piece of tortured pretzel logic, but the basic premise was that John Kerry deliberately impaled himself on a piece of shrapnel in Vietnam with the express purpose of flaunting his ill-gotten award in a presidential bid 40 years hence.

[Sweet Freedom]

85. I've posted this before, but...

A co-worker of mine was ranting about Clinton. So we asked him what his beef was with the big dawg and he brought up Monica and the fact that Bill was married at the time and how appalling that was, blah, blah, blah.

I looked him square in the eye with a "you've got to be kidding" look.

In that moment, he must have remembered the time I walked in on his married ass getting a blowjob from our secretary. He closed his mouth, turned and walked away.

When he left the room, we couldn't help busting into a BHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Sweet.

[MindPilot]

89. oh that is too good!!

Got any pix?

[Sweet Freedom]

97. Ewwwww! Thankfully no. /nt

[treestar]

88. "They can search my house whenever they want, I have nothing to hide."

Second only to the one that makes me see red the most: "I would feel safer under martial law."

Sorry, they are the ones who "hate America."

[AllegroRondo]

91. To which I respond "OK, can I look in your wallet? (or purse)"

[Broken_Hero]

90. The one, used against me the most

"Well, if liberals/Dems were in charge, it would be a lot worse, so there"....

[zbdent]

92. Quoting Clinton as a source for their point

since they would go outside to check if Clinton said "The sky is blue" - and come back in saying "No, it's 'robin-egg blue', you're a liar!"

If Clinton told them "You might drown if go stick your head in the water and breathe" ... hmm, now there's a happy thought ...

[LoZoccolo]

93. "If we invaded Iraq for the oil, how come gas is so expensive?"

This one was heard more in the past than it is now, but grossly overlooked the fact that the Iraqi oil infrastructure had been damaged by the war for the time being, thus decreasing overall supply. Or that there are also problems with refinery capacity which are difficult to fix due to the expensive nature of building more refining infrastructure independent of Iraqi supply (a fact that I've seen cited in at least one right-wing editorial, so they'd have trouble denying it).

[wishlist]

94. "The number of casualties in Iraq have been small compared to other wars" n/t

[ChrisCat]

96. "Don't you believe in God????"

I had sent a snopes link to debunk yet another RW Fundie email I had received, and this was the reply I got. I don't understand what my personal beliefs had to do with her sending lies by email.