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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 08:21 PM
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George W. Bush Will Never Go After Osama bin Laden. Why? The B&B Company is Why.
The fact that Osama bin Laden --- who planned and executed the attacks of September 11th, 2001, murdering three thousand people --- is still not even a target of the President of the United States some six long years later should tell everyone in this country one thing: George W. Bush has no intention of ever capturing or bringing him to justice. And why is that? Because the Bin Ladens and the Bush Families have been business partners for over 50 years now. In fact, we might as well call it the B&B Company, because that's what it truly is!

LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON, LIKE GRANDSON:

In the middle of the last century, a young George Herbert Walker Bush, the son of Prescott Bush, found early on that pimping cheap Arabian oil against his fellow Texan oilmen had both its political and financial rewards. Indeed, it was Bush's relationship with his new found Arabian oil buddies that eventually cost him his bid to for the U.S. Senate from Texas after Senator Lloyd Bentsen exposed Bush's undercutting Texas oil men with cheap Arabian crude. Sure, Bush may have lost his shot at the Senate, but what did that really matter? The grease of money from his new Arabian friends, dictators and business tycoons, more than compensated for his loss to Bentsen.

Bush soon carved himself out a very special niche in international business: he became the premier American contact and agent for the Saudi family, the Bin Ladens. In fact, this relationship was so tight that whenever GHW Bush traveled all those many years to the Middle East, he passed over the many fine hotels in Saudi Arabia...always preferring to stay in the bin Laden family palace. Indeed, the Bin Laden and Bush coziness became downright family-like. When GHW Bush's daughter, Dorothy, divorced her husband and was "depressed", it was the Bin Ladens who took her in --- only as kinship do --- giving her a place to regain herself. Later, it is reported, Dorothy would go on to provide cover for closeted homosexual David Dreier and "date" him when he needed to be seen with a woman. Such endearing family values!

Of course, GHB's star continued to rise politically and financially with all that Saudi money bankrolling his endeavors, and by 1980 it eventually put him at the second highest position of power in the United States: Ronald Reagan's VP. Ah...the B&B Company has its distinct advantages. Take that Lloyd Bentsen!

By this time, George W. Bush, the grandson of Prescott and the son of the Vice President Bush, was overcoming his lost decades of cocaine and alcohol abuse to discover that old family vibe ATM machine...the Bin Ladens. Young George (well, not that young), gladly took $50,000 from the Bin Ladens under the pretense and shell of a "start-up". To the world it would be "seed money", but in reality it was just a shakedown of his now very-powerful father's friends. The company went broke, of course, but young (well, not that young) Bush got the $50K, didn't he?

FAST FORWARD TO SEPTEMBER 11, 2001: Well, the documented relationship of the B&B Company (that's a good name, isn't it?) continues until GW Bush himself wound up as the President of the United States of America following his father's footsteps. And my, oh my, was the B&B Company ever set now! Why there were deals and deals and deals to be made! The Bush Brothers, Marvin, Neal and Jeb, could all get in on the action, too! The B&B Enterprise was growing.

And then came the surprising events of September 11th, 2001. The Pentagon was allowed to be the target of a strike after over one hour of knowledge that a hi-jacked jet was heading its way...after the Twin Towers in New York had already been hit. How did that happen? The Pentagon? The Pentagon!

And even though the President GW Bush was out of town and busy in Florida, where his brother was Governor, his father and former President GHW Bush, was sitting in Washington, D.C. with...of all people...representatives of Osama Bin Laden's family in Washington, D.C. Yeah, I know. It sounds crazy, doesn't it?

So how could GW Bush, who stood on the rubble of the Twin Towers and vowed to go after the mastermind of the terrorist attack, actually be expected to do that? How could a partner and life-long beneficiary of the B&B Company go after one of their very own? The B&B Company had a little problem on their hands.

First, the Bin Ladens would have to leave the country and so arrangements were made to pick them up all around the country and jet them back to Saudi Arabia. B&B was on the march.

THE GREATEST MAGIC TRICK IN AMERICAN HISTORY: Next, came the trickiest part of all: to get Osama off the hook. To somehow morph into the very minds of the American people that Osama Bin Laden who had attacked us was one and the same with another person, and who happened to be a B&B enemy: Saddam Hussein. But that would be impossible, wouldn't it? No one in their right mind would ever swallow that one! Everyone knew that Osama Bin Laden was the one who had attacked us. Everyone knew it, that is, up until about the Fall of 2002 when guess what? Saddam Hussein, our corporate news dutifully informed us, had actually been behind the attacks of 9/11.

But...what about Osama...that Bin Laden guy? "I hardly give him any thought at all" replied President GW Bush to a silly question posed to him. And that was the end of that silly line of thought. Osama who? Forget about it.

The B&B Company. And they are still in business. These days B&B have another serious competitor that they need to dispose of: that pesky little leader in Iran.

No wonder the Secretary of Defense, Mr. Gates, and the Secretary of State, Ms. Rice, are in Egypt today whipping up all the usual suspects against the B&B's competitor. These guys are good!

So, I really only have one question anymore: How does one buy stock in that B&B Company?


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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 08:24 PM
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1. K&R! n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 08:32 PM
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2. I don't want stock, at all, but I do recommend! nt
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ancient_nomad Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 08:38 PM
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3. KnR! n/t
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 08:49 PM
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4. Recommended it also helps my thread on
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 08:55 PM
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9. James Bath (Another "B"), albeit, a petty player.
Then there is James Baker (another "B"), too.

Seriously, James R. Bath is the invisible man, huh? Even Michael Moore's internationally aclaimed film that dealt with Bath raised not one eyebrow on earth.

Good thread you have there, IChing.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 12:15 PM
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31. Hi, David. Please provide some cites for the following:
Edited on Wed Aug-01-07 12:23 PM by leveymg
1) In the middle of the last century, a young George Herbert Walker Bush, the son of Prescott Bush, found early on that pimping cheap Arabian oil against his fellow Texan oilmen had both its political and financial rewards. Indeed, it was Bush's relationship with his new found Arabian oil buddies that eventually cost him his bid to for the U.S. Senate from Texas after Senator Lloyd Bentsen exposed Bush's undercutting Texas oil men with cheap Arabian crude.

Q: A number of Texas oil companies were involved in Saudi operations, including the largest, producer,Texaco, which established Saudi operations in 1936, and Dresser Industries, a leading oil field equipment manufacturer and service provider, which served as Bush's springboard. Why would Bush be singled out by the Houston oilmen for doing business with the Arabs? What source are you citing here?

2) Bush soon carved himself out a very special niche in international business: he became the premier American contact and agent for the Saudi family, the Bin Ladens. In fact, this relationship was so tight that whenever GHW Bush traveled all those many years to the Middle East, he passed over the many fine hotels in Saudi Arabia...always preferring to stay in the bin Laden family palace.

Q. W's drinkin buddy and fellow TANG squadron wingman, James R. Bath was a close Salem bin Laden associate. Salem and then his in-law, Khalid bin-Mahfouz, were the front guys for the Saudis in Houston. What is your source that it was actually GWHB who was actually the premier US contact and the other details about Bush's close connections with the bin Ladens?

3) Of course, GHB's star continued to rise politically and financially with all that Saudi money bankrolling his endeavors

Q. We know that CIA Director GHW entered into a big money relationship with Prince al-Turki in 1976 to create the Safari Club, an arrangement whereby the Saudis financed off-the-books CIA operations. See, http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1281780 But, what other info do you have about direct financial dealings between Bush Sr. and the Royals?

Thanks -
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:01 PM
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53. See My Post #49
Hi leveymg. Thanks for your post and questions. Sometimes I think I'm the John Wilbur Cash of the DU. He wrote one my of all-time favorite books in 1940, "The Mind of the South" without one single footnote, reference, nothing. Historians call it "literature" and those in the field of literature insist it is "history". Nonetheless, what he wrote was all factual. LOL! There is ample information available on the bin Ladens and the Bush family, but still, your questions made me go back into my aged mind and see what I could provide for you:

See post #49. I knew it was Tarpley who had so well documented the 1964 Texas Senatorial race, but it took me a bit to find it. And it was not Bentsen, but Yarborough. (I grew up in Houston and so I remember a lot of this, too.) I especially remember GHB trying to appease the John Birch Society and the Hunt family wing of the Texas GOP along with racist voters and still wear his New England Rockefeller blue-blood suits. I had family that supported GHW Bush. Yarborough was one of my heroes back then, which is why I am mad at myself for confusing him with Bentsen. Yarborough was tossed out of the Democratic National Convention in 1968 in Chicago because he opposed the War in Vietnam.

You are right about Bath, who I believe was actually a "registered foreign agent" when he was working for the bin Ladens. I think that is is apparent the Bush and Baker have been the point persons for the Saudis all these many years. Certainly, the Bush/Baker team also played much the same role for the Kuwait dictatorship, too. While I'm yakking about Baker, there are two somewhat awkward roles he has played in this regard since 2000: a.) he was on his way for a planned and long hunting trip with the Saudis which he had to cancel in order to spearhead GWB's election theft in Florida in 2000 (jet service provided by Enron and Halliburton); b.) he took a role in defending the Saudis against the 9/11 widows. leveymg, you touched on Dresser Industries and it being part of GHB's "springboard", so I figure you are aware of that entire pandora's box. GHB's long claimed hard tale about traveling to Midland in an old car was hogwash and that he arrived on a private jet owned by Dresser which later was picked up by Halliburton under Cheney thereby absorbing all of the asbestos liability which was later absorbed by the U.S. taxpayers under GWB's administration and a Republican Congress.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 08:49 PM
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5. The Bush family just proves what we have all known all along...
The rich and powerful would sell out their country at the drop of a dime...

These rat-fucks have stolen billions and have killed hundereds of thousands of innocent people just to make a buck...

And the rat-fucks have turned a once legitamate political party into an ATM machine for the rich and well connected...

It make me sick everytime I hear one of these rat-fucks say how much they love this country of ours...

Well, we all know that the Bush family and their cohorts in crime just love one thing...

Money...
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 08:51 PM
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7. Bush's Dad is a traitor and anyone that hangs with him should be
SUSPECT of values.

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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 10:55 AM
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25. Funny something like this...
was posted...as I told my sister last weekend...If you really piece together the Bushies and Bin Ladens family history and connections to 9/11...you should have your answer as to who was really behind 9/11...my hunch tells me GHWB was behind 9/11 along with the neocons and many others...as I always say "connect the dots and follow the money"....GHWB has way too many hands in too many cookie jars dating back to his Head of CIA days...I may be wrong...but piece it all together you may draw the same conclusion...
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 11:40 AM
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29. hmmm...
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 02:29 PM
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37. That is one disturbing picture, on many levels N/T
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 06:43 PM
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50. I also remember Bush smirking and smiling all the way through that service
My God, does that picture bring back memories. He was FUCKING SMILING! I didn't catch that glimpse with Poppy and Beautiful Mind smiling, too, though. That I didn't remember.

In this one, though, Smirky had a straight face and it's the proud parents who are smiling.

:puke: Augustus and Livia with Tiberius as proud papa congratulates son about "heckuva job on 9/11", is what I suspect, though that may not be it at all, I will confess. We will neevr know how deep their evil runs and it may be on "1890s robber baron evil", even still. Though the revealed evidence shows much worse.

:puke: what a picture, and reminds me of so much sadness, unfortunately, and the bastards got aaway with it.

They fucking TOLD us they were going to give us a "New Pearl Harbor" and we got one pretty damned quick once they seized control. Not Hitler quick (1 month, 11 days), but pretty damned quick (7 months, 20 days).

Almost as if the Bushies were waiting "a decent interval" to avoid more obvious comparisons. Maybe so and maybe no, but we'll never know, just as it is still in dispute whether Hitler had his own people burn the Reichstag and that was 73 years ago!

:puke:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:02 PM
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54. Augustus and Livia with Tiberius!
LOL! That's them!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:17 AM
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60. Bush always smiles and smirks about death and destruction..
one of the hallmarks of a madman. I think he was straight faced in that picture because he deep down (maybe not so deep down?) hates his parents, and he's uncomfortable being around them, under their scrutiny. He's fighting their validation of his actions.

I could armchair psychoanalyze Bush full time, the man is one messed up dude.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 07:26 PM
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51. It's the B&B Company.
"too many hands in too many cookie jars" and the thing is that this subversion of our system of government and culture has been going on for over 60 years. B&B.
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 08:49 PM
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6. What evidence is there that OBL attacked the US on 9/11?
Just asking. Maybe you have seen some evidence that hasn't come my way yet.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 08:53 PM
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8. It was Saddam........isn't that what they tell us now?
LOL.........:) :rofl:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 09:01 PM
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10. Did he take credit for it?
Something about some mysterious drivers' licenses magically uncovered under the tons of debris in the wreckage.

Who knows..it could be a setup between the bin hidens and the bushits from the getgo.

It's pretty obvious why the corporatemediawhores haven't been screaming headlines about it, though.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 09:06 PM
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11. Barry Mawn informed us about the passport and then that was that.
Edited on Tue Jul-31-07 09:14 PM by David Zephyr
And I believe, but I may be wrong on this, that it was Barry Mawn who got the great John O'Neil the job at the WTC after the Bush Crowd pushed him out of his position with the FBI. The job that cost him his life and silenced him forever about the B&B Company. Although, I understand that Barry and John were close friends. Maybe someday, Mr. Mawn will write a book.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 09:24 PM
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14. "John O'Neil"..just one of the
multitudes of tragic stories to come out of bushit ineptitude or mass homicide..they're capable of both.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 02:16 PM
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35. That would be Jerome Hauer
that got John P. O'Neill the job at WTC. He also was the one that identified Johns body.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 04:36 PM
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46. Thanks for correcting the record, Pastiche423
:)
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 04:41 AM
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21. OBL isn't an entirely convenient enemy for the Bushes
Because he has to get around the fact that Saudi Arabia isn't all that interested in cracking down on Al Qaeda, hence "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists" doesn't apply to Saudi Arabia. The truth is that Bush isn't all that interested in cracking down on Al Qaeda. 9/11 provided him an excuse to attack Iraq, one of the countries that didn't provide us with oil. If he hadn't botched Iraq, we would have invaded Iran and Syria, two other countries that don't give us oil.

If Bush had fabricated the 9/11 attacker he wouldn't be Saudi, he would have been Persian and Shi'ite. That would've given him the instant green light to attack Iran and possibly Iraq as well. Remember, Afghanistan wasn't a high priority of the Bushes. Before 9/11 the Taliban were a "valuable ally in the war on drugs" and if Bush had fabricated the 9/11 attacker they probably would still be a valuable ally in the war on drugs. Of course the reality is that the major terrorist organization supported by Iran is Hezbollah. Hezbollah may be a threat to Israel, but not to the United States.
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:31 AM
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23. These are all nice points, but they don't answer my question
What evidence is there that OBL did 9/11?
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 11:23 AM
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27. Absolutely none....except....
that there had to be a designated boogy man named quickly(kinda funny how that happened in less than 24 hours)..remember who it was, that placed the blame, and told us BinLaden was the perpetrator...have we been able to believe anything else he's said, since he's been in office??? uh huh...thought not...so why would we believe the story about 9/11?? Who stonewalled the investigation? Usually, the only people who don't want an incident investigated, are the ones who are involved, and have something to hide...wb
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 02:49 PM
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41. A threat to Israel IS a threat to the United States..
according to most of our elected officials in Washington anyway?..:shrug:

It's such a tangled web, who knows where one string begins and the other ends. I do know this, that prior to 9/11 the radical right wing fundamentalists who are gaining power in the Saudi royal family became increasingly fed up with American infidels on their land. They also weren't too happy with having the secular Saddam as a neighbor. Well, here we are post 9/11, and voila, the U.S. is off Saudi soil and Saddam is gone.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 03:30 PM
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42. Exactly, this whole saga seems to indicate that we are working...

for the Saudis, not hunting down terrorists. Al Qaeda in Iraq is necessary to lend the appearance that we are fighting terrorism, but our real purpose is to setup military bases close to Saudi Arabia, yet beyond the Islamic holy land, and to secure privatized oil, which has been our primary goal in the ME all along.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 02:45 PM
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39. Thank you, I have asked this question repeatedly myself..
so far, all we have is a video *purported* to be bin laden, but never proven to be, and the CIA never validated that it was him, claiming responsibility. We have KSM, a supposed bin laden minion in custody, who supposedly has confessed to orchestrating the 9/11 plot, but last we saw of him, he wasn't looking too good..the proof is sketchy at best.

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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:15 PM
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57. Remember the Bin Laden Confession Tape found in Kandahar?
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

MURDER OF U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; CONSPIRACY TO MURDER U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; ATTACK ON A FEDERAL FACILITY RESULTING IN DEATH

USAMA BIN LADEN

Photograph of USAMA BIN LADEN

Aliases: Usama Bin Muhammad Bin Ladin, Shaykh Usama Bin Ladin, The Prince, The Emir, Abu Abdallah, Mujahid Shaykh, Hajj, The Director

DESCRIPTION

Date of Birth Used: 1957 Hair: Brown
Place of Birth: Saudi Arabia Eyes: Brown
Height: 6'4" to 6'6" Sex: Male
Weight: Approximately 160 pounds Complexion: Olive
Build: Thin Citizenship: Saudi Arabian
Language: Arabic (probably Pashtu)
Scars and Marks: None known
Remarks: Bin Laden is left-handed and walks with a cane.

CAUTION

The above is from the FBI web site most wanted
Note it states he is Left Handed in the video allegedly found in Afghanistan the actor playing bin Laden writes with his RIGHT HAND not left! Also note the FBI does not want Bin Laden for the 911 attacks!
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Poindexter Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 07:32 PM
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52. FBI says there is no hard evidence connecting Osama to 9/11
Edited on Wed Aug-01-07 07:33 PM by Poindexter
FBI spokesman Rex Tomb has gone on record stating "the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11."

http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html#_ftn1


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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:19 AM
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61. Two of the biggest crimes ever committed against this country..
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 08:19 AM by Virginia Dare
the 9/11 attacks and the anthrax attacks, but yet the FBI's got bupkus. It REALLY makes you wonder, doesn't it.

Welcome to DU!!
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 09:09 PM
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12. K&R, also Osama may be receiving support from family members...


notice from this PBS Frontline report:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/bio2.html

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There is, however the other side of the story. Bin Laden is a member of a big family. His father's financial inheritance has not been sorted. The brothers agreed to keep many assets of the father and distribute the profits only. Most of the brothers and sisters are observing Muslims and very keen not to "spoil" their income with money which is not theirs. They believe it is their duty to let the owner of any riyal to have it. The only way they guarantee that is by letting bin Laden's share reach him. Some of the brothers and sisters believed it was their religious duty to support this distinguished brother from their own money. While many are very careful not to irritate the royal family, many more do not care and insist on letting the money reach Osama.

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 09:16 PM
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13. Bush is Bin Laden's right or left hand man.
yes, they have ties, all in the oil business. I thought Bin Laden did not take credit for the attack, but he praised those who did carry it out. Just my two cents.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 09:25 PM
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15. Thanks for this post... Good Summer reading is
"American Dynasty" by Kevin Phillips. I'm still slogging through it with other reading. It's an overwhelming book which got so little attention after the Promo tour.

K&R!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 09:43 PM
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16. A fascinating book, indeed. And by a Republican, no less.
Kitty Kelly's bio on the Bush family is an important read and compliments Phillips book.

Finally, while many discredit the author, Webster G. Tarpley, I still found his book (co-authored by Anton Chaitkin) to be gripping and well researched. These three books tell a tale. In fact, the it was Tarpley who dug up all the dirt on GHW Bush's sordid Senate campaign in Texas.
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 04:51 PM
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47. You can read the Tarpley book online...
http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm

George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:11 PM
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55. Phillips is excellent.
American Theocracy
American Dynasty
Wealth And Democracy

I bought 7 copies of American Dynasty last year on sale for 5 bucks each, and gave them as Christmas gifts.


Phillips is also far better regarded than Tarpley, more mainstream, if you will.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:14 PM
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56. Excellent.
Certainly, Phillips is more mainstream and respected, still Tarpley wrote his tale a long time ago when it wasn't fashionable. I read the book and now find it (today) on-line. And, don't sneeze at Kitty Kelley's book either. Just another camera angle looking into this sordid family.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 10:02 PM
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17. This is such a 50/50 issue
"Qui Bono" has always been in effect regarding this this administration. They claim "incompetence" or "walls between departments" or "outdated laws" whenever something supposedly goes south, when in reality, it seems it was simply their real policy in play, followed by an implied "We don't care of you see through our flimsy excuse- whose going to hold us accountable?"

The 50 part comes from the fact that I think Bin Laden is dead, and has been for some time. He made an exceptional focal point for the undirected fear and rage during 9/11. I didn't buy into that. From the first moment I saw confirmation that the towers had really been hit(Fox had done a "what if" movie based on oil shortage with various disasters just before that), I knew it was a LIHOP, though when the towers fell within moments of each other in such a neat fashion, something tickled my mind as to perhaps something more.

On the other hand, someone I trust told me that his friend had been at Tora Bora(a sniper), and had Bin Laden dead to rights, and was told not to take the shot. So that agrees with this assessment. As much as I believe that he was sick and perhaps dying at the time of 9/11, it's quite possible that he is running around with protected status doing pretty much what he was doing before that. I've heard his services to the Bush Family are quite exceptional.

Stock in B&B? Try working for them in a high level position. You'd probably get so much inside information with which to invest for the companies that would benefit from wars and terrorism, or the companies to bet against that would be destroyed by such that you could become a billionaire overnight. Knowledge is power.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 10:44 PM
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18. Makes sense to me.
As far as stock goes, go where the Carlyle Group goes.

--IMM
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Decruiter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 02:51 AM
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19. Just for a little humor and or fun. Let's call it the BB B&B.
Possibly a franchise could happen.

Bush-BinLaden Bed & Breakfast Resorts.

Worldwide network of really nice places to stay, R&R (rest & recreation/rejuvenation), discreet locations, exemplary service.

Let us just get rid of that ugly BFEE reference and make it be new. BB B&B.

Anyone here have a problem with a bed & breakfast retreat?

Didn't think so.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 04:07 AM
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20. K&R
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 02:05 PM
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34. Thanks.
Appreciated.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 04:53 AM
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22. It is likely from the chatter that B&B Co. will attack us again
It rises to near 99.99% certainty if the Imperial Congress gets anywhere near actually prosecuting any of the Royal Bushies.

Which begs the question: Does Gonzo count as a Royal Bushie or just a Loyal Bushie? Is he worth enough for B&B to hit us again?

I think he may be, and if you combine that with the otnher benefits to B&B Co. (concentration camps for opponents, matrial law, back to 70% approval rating, block captains and neighborhood spies...a veritable BONANZA for the Bush-Bin Laden enterprise, the chatter indicates an increasingly likelihood that the Bush-Bin Laden Enterprise will strike us again, as it is running out of options to retain it's power.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 01:31 PM
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33. I have a sinking feeling that B&B is placing the calls right now about Iran.
And a big hello to you, tom_paine, who I admire and whose posts I try to catch when here at the DU.

I've been so frustrated for years now on how could we capsulize all of the Bush/Bin Laden relationship that wouldn't make Americans' eyes glaze over from information overload. That's how I came upon the B&B Company. It's easier than explaining about Dresser Industries, BCCI, The Carlyle Group, Harkin Energy, James Bath, James Baker, and all the Saudis. Putting these two families together with language was difficult because that's how they've always intended it to be...shrouded under shell corporations or through stock ownership in foreign corporations. Hence, The B&B Company. I'll gladly use something else if anyone comes up with something better. I just want to marry these two up together once and for all and in an easy way.

You write: "Which begs the question: Does Gonzo count as a Royal Bushie or just a Loyal Bushie? Is he worth enough for B&B to hit us again? I think he may be, and if you combine that with the other benefits to B&B Co. (concentration camps for opponents, matrial law, back to 70% approval rating, block captains and neighborhood spies...a veritable BONANZA for the Bush-Bin Laden enterprise, the chatter indicates an increasingly likelihood that the Bush-Bin Laden Enterprise will strike us again, as it is running out of options to retain it's power." Add that to Bush's new Executive Order giving him dictatorial powers, and the heated rhetoric and accusations against Iran, throw in Peak Oil, and a simple phone call by the B&B could bring another strike against us and, as you point out, get those approval ratings up and the B&B will have the American people scared shitless once again and surrendering their last civil liberties.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:58 AM
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24. Hey! Don't knock a good Drink!


Drink it neat.
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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 10:57 AM
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26. Damn, and I thought you were referring to...
Bush Kool-aide:

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DirtyDawg Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 11:25 AM
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28. Milo Minderbinder...
M&M Enterprises set the tone for this bunch...if you can make a buck on it then nothing's immoral.
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 12:00 PM
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30. What amazes me is how the
trail is there in plain sight to follow, but you won't hear anything significant in the media. I think their biggest feat thus far is muzzling the media.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 01:26 PM
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32. Simply amazing that they're able to get away with all this.
Yep, the adults are in charge now. :eyes:

If there's anything beyond that of being a traitor in selling one's country down the river these people have found it. What's even more amazing is that Poppy can come off looking like he doesn't know anything about what's going on. I mean this is a man with all these powerful connections, CIA head and former prez to boot. Any Mafia Don would be envious of all that power.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 02:29 PM
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36. how does one buy stock?
you go to their fund raisers and give em cash, lots of cash, talk about being a good WASP (even if you're not a good WASP) and wait for the rewards...

I'll pass, as I'm sure the OP will too.

The bushies are despicable human beings. God help us get them out of power through impeachment - I get tired of some people I know telling me, "it's only another 18 months of him" - amazing what he can do in 18 months of letting rover and dick setting up the stages of complete American control through their shadow govt.
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IamyourTVandIownyou Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 02:45 PM
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38. 2002 - "I just don't spend that much time on him"
"So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you."

White House press conference, March 13, 2002 <20>
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_W._Bush
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 04:35 PM
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45. Thanks for providing the quote. I'm terrible at referencing my posts.
Much appreciated, IamyourTVandIownyou.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 02:47 PM
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40. So we want Bush to hunt Osama down, but not Barack Obama?
I know it's not as simplistic as that, but -- just thought this was a question that needed to be asked.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 03:33 PM
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43. ALWAYS suspicious to me
that the Bin Ladens were ferried out of the country on a day when no one else could fly.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 04:26 PM
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44. I absolutely believe it!
It's all obvious to most thinking adults theses scandalous connections, and I may also add, that in 90 or 91, my husband actually saw W with a definite Saudi type at a very small private airport west of Austin, just as happy as larks! I always wondered if it was so innocent, then why couldn't he have used a closer airport?
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Knightly_Knews Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 04:55 PM
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48. Wanna see a cool photo?
Edited on Wed Aug-01-07 04:58 PM by Knightly_Knews
I found this image a while back... Took me a while to find this again... You know the video that was released of the Pentagon Attack? The video that just shows a blip on the screen and then an explosion. Well you cannot distinguish what the object is. Why would they hide the Videos? Perhaps because they can be freeze framed and people would see what actually hit the Pentagon. Take a close look at this image.. The bottom image is a Cruise Missile painted as an American Airline's Jetliner. Very close comparison isn't it? Especially when flying at a low altitude cruising at around 400+ MPH...



Crazy shit!

I just thought I would post this seeing as how you mentioned the Pentagon in your OP.


Peace,
Knight!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 04:56 PM
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49. Correction to my OP:
I shouldn't write purely from memory as I'm getting too old to do so.

To correct my OP:

The 1964 race for the Senate pitted Houston Congressman George H. W. Bush against the Democratic incumbent, U.S. Senator Ralph Yarborough, not Lloyd Bentsen as I had written. The facts are still the same as it was Yarborough who went after Bush and his ties to Arabian Oil.

Here's an exerpt of the well-researched play by play of the 1964 Campaign from the book "The George "Bush: The Unauthorized Biography" by Webster G. Tarpley & Anton Chai. (I know that Tarpley has his detractors, but I challenge anyone to find any better researched book on the GWH Bush.) Kevin Phillips' "American Dynasty" and Kitty Kelley's "The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty" are also long and detailed, but lay out the Bush family's multi-generational fingerprints on American and world history.

In any event, Tarpley wrote years ago about Bush pimping Arabian crude here in the U.S. Below are some excerpts from the book published long before Dubya ever became president:

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Yarborough's counterattack on this issue is of great relevance to understanding why Bush was so fanatically committed to wage war in the Gulf to restore the degenerate, slaveholding Emir of Kuwait. Yarborough pointed out that Bush's company, Zapata Offshore, was drilling for oil in Kuwait, the Persian Gulf, Borneo, and Trinidad. "Every producing oil well drilled in foreign countries by American companies means more cheap foreign oil in American ports, fewer acres of Texas land under oil and gas lease, less income to Texas farmers and ranchers..," Yarborough stated. "this issue is clear-cut in this campaign - a Democratic senator who is fighting for the life of the free enterprise system as exemplified by the independent oil and gas producers in Texas, and a Republican candidate who is the contractual driller for the international oil cartel." In those days the oil cartel did not deal mildly with those who attacked it in public. One thinks again of the Italian oilman Enrico Mattei. For Bush, these cartel interests would always be sacrosanct. On April 1, Bush talked of the geopolitics of oil: "I was in London at the time of the Suez crisis and I quickly saw how the rest of the free world can become completely dependent on American oil. When the Canal was shut down, free nations all over the world immediately started crying for Texas oil."

Later in the campaign, Yarborough visited the town of Gladewater in East Texas. There, standing in view of the oil derricks, Yarborough talked about Bush's ownership of Pennzoil stock, and about Pennzoil's quota of 1,690 barrels per day of imported oil, charging that Bush was undermining the Texas producers by importing cheap foreign oil.

Then, according to a newspaper account, "the senator spiced his charge with a reference to the 'Sheik of Kuwait and his four wives and 100 concubines' who, he said, are living in luxury off the oil from Bush- drilled wells in the Persian Gulf and sold at cut-rate prices in the United States. He said that imported oil sells for $1.25 a barrel while Texas oil, selling at $3, pays school, city, county, and federal taxes and keeps payrolls going. Yarborough began his day of campaigning at a breakfast with supporters in Longview. Later, in Gladewater, he said he had seen a "Bush for Senator" bumper sticker on a car in Longview. 'Isn't that a come-down for an East Texan to be a strap-hanger for a carpetbagger from Connecticut who is drilling oil for the Sheik of Kuwait to help keep that harem going?'"

Yarborough challenged Bush repeatedly to release more details about his overseas drilling and producing interests. He spoke of Bush's "S.A. corporations drilling in the Persian Gulf in Asia." He charged that Bush had "gone to Latin America to incorporate two of his companies to drill in the Far East, instead of incorporating them in the United States." That in turn, thought Yarborough, "raises questions of tax avoidance." "Tell them, George," he jeered, "what your 'S.A.' companies, financed with American dollars, American capital, American resources, are doing about American income taxes." Bush protested that "every single tax dollar due by any company that I own an interest in has been paid." Link here: http://www.tarpley.net/bush9.htm
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 10:16 PM
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58. ERROR: You can only ... I still remember the old days.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:15 AM
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59. I'm kicking this again..
because I'm amazed it's still here!..:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 10:45 AM
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62. You've made the front page at Digg.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 04:39 PM
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63. Thanks for letting me know, Bleachers7
:hi:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 07:34 PM
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64. kick
Because I have a feeling this thing has hit 50,000 hits.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 10:27 PM
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65. That $50.000 payment to Bush.
IIRC, that was the commission paid to James Bath to secure a much bigger loan for Arbusto from the bin Laden. Bath was the US business agent for the bin Ladens. He was AWOL's buddy in TANG....and both got discharged at the same time. If Bath's on a 10% commission, Bush's loan was probably $500K.

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