You know what I find offensive?

[CatWoman]

all of these so-called "journalists" who keep telling us that there is nothing the Democrats can do to Bush or his administration to hold them accountable for their lies and crimes.

On almost every show, following each report, the journalist will throw that out there.

Dana Milbank, Richard Wolffe, David Schuster, David Gregory, Chris Matthews, -- the list goes on.

Just what is their point?

[redqueen]

1. If the public gets behind impeachment,

it's over.

So, if they can convince everyone that it's not possible...

[Norquist Nemesis]

6. Hearing 'Impeach' more and more every day

so at least it's getting into the so-called mainstream. Unfortunately, it's being presented as some sort of radical left-wing strangle hold screaming at the base rather than a majority (or even a growing and near majority) of Americans.

[redqueen]

18. I wonder how much longer it will be possible to spin.

Didn't seem to take too long to get the public behind ending the war...

[Fovea]

7. When we get 51% of the American people

willing to admit to a pollster that they favor impeachment, it is not unimaginable that another 10 to 15% do, and are afraid to say so.

It is so over. But only if we make it so. Because, as we see, the corporate media has a vested interest in protecting the lies that allow them to pretend they are journalists.

If we wait for Faux or CNN to step up to the plate, we are screwn. My Congressman is starting to flinch, I think.

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. We need to get someone to do those polls

That's the first hurdle.

[puebloknot]

28. When will politicians do the right thing, the legal thing, regardless...

... of polls?

Did RFK poll the South before taking legal action against necktie parties?

If quivering politicans would just stand up and lead, they'd see a remarkable followership, I think.

[Fovea]

31. Why is it that so many cultures use frightening

figures like Durgas to repel evil?

Because evil is weak. When politicians realize that there is profit is temporary, and well deserved fame is eternal.

When you improve lives for the better you become a Promethean figure, and a part of the long slow learning curve of human civilization. When you betray your neighbors, friends, and family for easy money, you become a criminal.


The question that has to eat at Dick Cheney is how is his young grandson going to regard his rhetoric and politics when he becomes of an age of majority? Of course, for Dick, the option of simply shooting him is open, but I would rather think the best I can of him, and say that it wouldn't be his first choice.

[puebloknot]

34. I often wonder about every elected on the Hill (and, of course, the unelected ones)...

... and whether they ever give a single thought to the kind of world they're creating for their children and grandchildren, and generations to follow...if any.

[mmonk]

2. They either don't know the constitution or

they are promoting unitary executive or
they are issuing a challenge.

[Iverson]

3. I'm with you.

The power of the corporate media to shape people's perceptions is a cancer upon our democracy.

With impeachment off the table, though, I'm not sure how to reverse this representation of meek acquiescence.

[emulatorloo]

4. Milbank is a smirky cynical bastard. Wolffe is not the sharpest knife in the drawer

Happily I have not yet heard Shuster or Matthews say it.

[hvn_nbr_2]

29. Heck, Wolfie isn't even the sharpest rubber spatula in the drawer. nt

[Norquist Nemesis]

5. So frustrating! But, maybe that's the point

Maybe...I dunno.

Just seems to me that, in essence, they're telling the American people that they really don't have a voice in government. 'Don't like what the President's doing? Too bad, so sad. Tough!' Then, they'll blame the voters which is initially true but what about the effin' Constitution? Checks and balances anyone?

[Iverson]

9. bingo

"they're telling the American people that they really don't have a voice in government."

Let the absurdity of such a proposition sink in. Our political landscape is like an insane asylum.

[CatWoman]

21. double "bingo"!!!!!

that's EXACTLY what they are telling us :grr:

[proud2BlibKansan]

8. Well what are the Dems doing to fight back?

More subpoenas? And those are how effective?

[Breeze54]

10. It's the WH propaganda machine at work...

http://www.prwatch.org/books/wmd.html">The Uses of Propaganda in Bush's War on Iraq

White house officials used repetition and misinformation

[Iverson]

13. That's a major part.

The propaganda machine is ruthless. It tells us that dropping white phosphorus on a whole city in Iraq is part of defending freedom.

What are we going to do about it? People are losing their rights and dying and all manner of criminal extortion is being perpetrated by this administration, yet impeachment is off the table.

[Breeze54]

17. Yes! --> 'Under Bush, a New Age of Prepackaged TV News'

Under Bush, a New Age of Prepackaged TV News

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/13/politics/13covert.html?ei=5070&en=d30a26690b92dbd8&ex=1185681600&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1185548313-l/vta9w+qM6pthEQ9GudKA

By DAVID BARSTOW and ROBIN STEIN

Published: March 13, 2005

It is the kind of TV news coverage every president covets.

"Thank you, Bush. Thank you, U.S.A.," a jubilant Iraqi-American told a camera crew in Kansas City for a segment about reaction to the fall of Baghdad. A second report told of "another success" in the Bush administration's "drive to strengthen aviation security"; the reporter called it "one of the most remarkable campaigns in aviation history." A third segment, broadcast in January, described the administration's determination to open markets for American farmers.

To a viewer, each report looked like any other 90-second segment on the local news. In fact, the federal government produced all three. The report from Kansas City was made by the State Department. The "reporter" covering airport safety was actually a public relations professional working under a false name for the Transportation Security Administration. The farming segment was done by the Agriculture Department's office of communications.

Under the Bush administration, the federal government has aggressively used a well-established tool of public relations: the prepackaged, ready-to-serve news report that major corporations have long distributed to TV stations to pitch everything from headache remedies to auto insurance. In all, at least 20 federal agencies, including the Defense Department and the Census Bureau, have made and distributed hundreds of television news segments in the past four years, records and interviews show. Many were subsequently broadcast on local stations across the country without any acknowledgement of the government's role in their production.

More.....

[EST]

11. I would think they are illustrating-willy psychotically nilly, their

own lack of imagination and generally hopeless, helpless outlook.
They would prefer to bash democrats, just as people will pick on the perceived weakness-the less intelligent, less pretty, less elegant. Unfortunately the publipricks have demonstrated their propensity for destroying virtually everything and the democrats represent hope for change, so their bashing rings hollow.

They can't resist the temptation but try to channel it into words that will attract less attention from people who can think a bit more clearly than they.

[NNN0LHI]

14. Its called wishful thinking n/t

[Phredicles]

15. Heck, even here there's the "We don't have the votes" brigade.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

16. how about Pat Leahy? It doesn't help when such a high profile "one of our own" says

that it would probably take to the end of the administration to get Gonzo.

And yes, the Washington Post in regard to the Miers/Bolton contempt kept the meme that nothing could be done because Shrub ordered the JD not to prosecute. WAPO never headlined the fact that there was a little thing called Inherent Contempt.

[Rockholm]

19. I love it when they report some "news story"....

and then interview the republican! Why do the MSM never ever seem to ask a DEMOCRAT about pending legislation? The DEMOCRATS are in control now. I believe there was a memo a while ago, from.....November 2006.

[TwilightGardener]

20. Expecting impartiality from David Gregory (poppin' and lockin' with MC Rove)

is like expecting impartiality from Tony Snow and Dana Perino--ain't gonna happen.

[AnExtremist]

22. I personally find it offensive when they open their mouths

It's even worse when sounds come out!

[ThomWV]

23. It doesn't bother me too much, but just for one reason. They left the final solution unsaid

What it seems to me is that by saying that they are exhausting all the possible remedies before impeachment. I say that because if you can't stop them here and you can't stop them there and nothing anyone does makes any difference, then what is there left to do?

Only one answer.

IMPEACH!

[spanone]

24. i find this entire mis-administration offensive. they lie on top of lying. pathetic

[Uncle Joe]

25. I believe they've mentally crossed the Rubicon,

they don't know how to do anything else except enable the Bush and the neocons, because they're in bed with them.

[glitch]

26. Just collaborators protecting their income. nt

[The Backlash Cometh]

27. Their point is that there are protected classes in this country, and we're not

in them.

Next time one of those pricks make those comments, I wish, I really wish that someone would just look them blank in the face and say, "So, is this another white male class privilege we can bring up as evidence in the next court test testing the merits of Affirmative Action?"

[Parche]

30. All You Need Is

Catnip, then you will settle down!!! :rofl: :rofl: :hi:
Or turn the channel
OH MEOW

[Warren Stupidity]

32. Mini-mansions, the lexus, and trophy wives. nt

[Jade Fox]

33. Their point is to make us give up.......

Why they want to make us give up is a good question. Are they cynical? Hopeless? On the Bushco payroll?

I think it's part of what Anna Quinlan called "the self-referential circle of conventional wisdom in Wash. D.C." Media people and legislators in DC mostly talk to each other, and in doing so create a reality they try to foist off on the rest of us.

[KAT119]

35. K&R n/t

[xchrom]

36. with so few of eligible voters exercising their responsibility

to vote -- i figure the tactic is already working.

from the time reagan was elected the MSM has been acting on the behalf of the status quo -- and i purposely use that phrase.