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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:39 PM
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If Monkey says: ''I messed up. Now help me fix it.'' What do You say?


Me, a somewhat charitable if not always hypocritical fellow, would say:

First, George Walker Bush, you admit to all your crimes and those of your cronies,
both in government and out; then open the secret books to what's been going on.
Once we have it all out in the clear light of day, including the stuff you stashed away from Poppy and Pruneface’s administrations,
we will know what needs to be addressed and who needs to be incarcerated.

Maybe I'd start in with the most pressing:

1. The War in Iraq
2. Treason
3. Phony War on Terror and a Foreign Policy to inflame various wars around the planet for fun and profit.
4. Global warming.
5. Domestic Issues: Constitutional, Fiscal Policy, HEW, destroyed economy, etc.

But first, I'd say to the little turd from Crawford: "Use the magic word."
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:42 PM
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1. And the other two magic words that are so hard to say:
I'm sorry.
It will never happen, says the eternal optimist.
But nice!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:04 AM
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13. Bush has a lot to be sorry for.
Lying America into an illegal, unnecessary and disastrous invasion and occupation of Iraq:



Fourth Anniversary of Powell's Lies

By Robert Parry
February 5, 2007

Editor’s Note: On Feb. 5, 2003, Colin Powell – then considered one of the most trustworthy leaders in the United States – went before the United Nations and made the case for a preemptive invasion of Iraq, a presentation that we now know was replete with false claims and exaggerated evidence.

But the impact of Powell’s speech on U.S. public opinion then cannot be overstated. Powell effectively de-legitimized the war’s opponents and turned the major U.S. news media into a virtual monolith of misguided consensus for the invasion.

Now, on the fourth anniversary of Powell’s speech, the consequences are painfully clear. More than 3,000 American soldiers are dead, along with possibly hundreds of thousands of Iraqis; many more thousands have been grievously injured; Iraq has been thrust into a hellish civil war; and the U.S. image in the world is in tatters.

But there are important lessons to be drawn from the troubling case of Colin Powell's false credibility. For one, a more skeptical and less star-struck press corps would never have been swept up in Powell-mania. Diligent journalists would have more carefully scrutinized Powell’s real history and explained to the public the disturbing reality behind this hero’s legend.

After Powell’s speech, Consortiumnews.com was one of the few news outlets voicing dissent about Powell’s trustworthiness. Our headline the next day read: “Trust Colin Powell?” It then linked to an earlier series about Powell’s true biography by Robert Parry and Norman Solomon, entitled “Behind Colin Powell’s Legend.”

On this fourth anniversary of this momentous speech, we are publishing below an excerpt by Parry from the upcoming book, Neck Deep: George W. Bush & the Assault on the American Republic:


To make his case for war before the U.N., George W. Bush dispatched the most credible official in his administration, Secretary of State Colin Powell.

Yet, when Powell was assigned to make the case for war, he already counted himself among the growing list of U.S. officials nervous about the quality of the WMD intelligence. Indeed, Powell may have been one of the best positioned officials to know that the threat from Iraq was being exaggerated.

In February 2001, Powell personally had cited the effectiveness of the U.N. sanctions in crippling Saddam Hussein’s military capabilities.

“Frankly, they have worked,” Powell said of the sanctions. “He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors.”

But Bush called on Powell to put his loyalty to the President first, over his own personal doubts. Col. Larry Wilkerson, Powell’s longtime friend and chief of staff, later told CNN that Powell was upset with the White House instructions about what to highlight in his speech.

“He came through the door that morning and he had in his hand a sheaf of papers and he said this is what I’ve got to present at the United Nations according to the White House and you need to look at it,” Wilkerson said. “It was anything but an intelligence document. It was as some people characterized it later, some kind of Chinese menu from which you could pick and choose. … There was no way the Secretary of State was going to read off a script about serious matters of intelligence that could lead to war when the script was basically unsourced.”

Powell’s skepticism led to his “four day and four night” encampment at the CIA reviewing the intelligence. Despite assurances from CIA Director George Tenet, Powell recognized the shakiness of the case.

CONTINUED...

http://consortiumnews.com/2007/020507.html



Do you think, if Smirko McCokespoon was facing prosecution, he might come out with his hands high?


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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:43 PM
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2. He won't.
"I messed up" is not coming out of his mouth. Ever.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:38 AM
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17. Remember the debate where the question had him flummoxed?
You're right, impeachdubya.
The guy lied America into war.
He isn't going to admit making any mistakes.

All we can do is remind him of them and see to it that he faces a jury of his peers some day soon.

Here's what one guy who's heard a bunch of stuff in his time on the job, Fr. Greeley:



Is Bush lying about his lies?

November 25, 2005
BY ANDREW GREELEY

Not only did the Bush administration deceive the American people about the reasons for invading Iraq, it is now deceiving them about the deceptions. In a burst of political tantrums, the president and the vice president have shouted that it was "irresponsible" to assert that there had been deception and it was unfair to the troops fighting in Iraq.

Is the administration lying about its lies? That many of the arguments in favor of the war were false is beyond question. Nor can there be any serious doubt that the new argument that it is irresponsible to question the old arguments is also false. But if a lie is a conscious effort to deceive, then the charge that the president and the men around him deliberately lied and are now lying again, then that issue must be left to heaven. It is enough to say they spread falsehoods three years because they had made up their minds that there had to be a war and are now spreading falsehoods about the original falsehoods. The president is not a man who likes to admit he was wrong. Therefore, one must cover up the mistakes.

Consider some of the evidence. Vice President Dick Cheney and the president both insisted that Iraq was trying to import "yellowcake" uranium for nuclear weapons. Then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and the vice president warned of "mushroom clouds."

Bush says that everyone agreed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. He has said in the past that it was not his fault that all the intelligence agencies of the world believed that they did. Therefore, the intelligence agencies of the world were to blame for the mistake, he wasn't. Everyone in Washington, he argues, supported the war.

In truth, many Democratic senators did, not realizing how much the case in favor of the war had been cooked. In the national intelligence estimate issued just before the war, the internal dissent was excluded. The administration had created an atmosphere of fear and deception that indeed won support for the war.

Now we realize that even before Sept. 11, the powerful people in the administration (Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz) wanted a war with Iraq. The day of the attack some of them tried to find evidence that Iraq had attacked us. Now there was certainly going to be a war, and the challenge was to present a case to the American people to win their support for the war.

CONTINUED...

http://www.uruknet.info/?s1=1&p=18166&s2=26



Liars, like cheaters, never really prosper.
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oldtimecanuk Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:44 PM
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3. UGH... Barf... me up and spit me out is what I would say....
That pic just reaks.... About the same as the ones with McCain and Liberman.... What the hell is this all about anyway?

ww
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 01:07 AM
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18. If that one bugs you, you're definitely not going to like this one...


Sorry, oldtimecanuk. It's just that this guy is destroying my country and our planet.

Here's how he wants to spend America's Treasury:



Bush Slashes Aid to Poor to Boost Iraq War Chest
· Bill for Iraq conflict will soon overtake Vietnam
· $78bn squeeze on medical care for elderly and poor


by Ewen MacAskill
Published on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 by the Guardian / UK

President George Bush is proposing to slash medical care for the poor and elderly to meet the soaring cost of the Iraq war.

Mr Bush's $2.9 trillion (£1.5 trillion) budget, sent to Congress yesterday, includes $100bn extra for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars for this year, on top of $70bn already allocated by Congress and $141.7bn next year. He is planning an 11.3% increase for the Pentagon. Spending on the Iraq war is destined to top the total cost of the 13-year war in Vietnam.

The huge rise in military spending is paid for by a squeeze on domestic programmes, including $66bn in cuts over five years to Medicare, the healthcare scheme for the elderly, and $12bn from the Medicaid healthcare scheme for the poor.

Mr Bush said: "Today we submit a budget to the United States Congress that shows we can balance the budget in five years without raising taxes ... Our priority is to protect the American people. And our priority is to make sure our troops have what it takes to do their jobs."

CONTINUED...

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0206-04.htm



It's too bad most Americans, who get most of their "news" from television, seldom experience such accurate reporting.

And you know they're not going to see such images on television.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:44 PM
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4. Don't Trust GWB
I would say, "We'll fix it, but we will do it without you". I don't trust GWB. I also don't trust his neocon pals. If the problem is to be fixed, it needs to be done without them.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:46 PM
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5. Yes. There's no way I would "help him" do anything. He'd expect to continue
screwing things up, this time with our help.

Nope. We'll take it over and fix it but he's out of the picture.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:59 PM
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9. "We'll fix it after you and Cheney resign."
is the only logical answer to that. Trying to fix anything with those two lunatics in office is a losing proposition.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:33 AM
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20. They all need to be under arrest.
These are traitors, war criminals and mass murderers.
Those who confess and cooperate can avoid capital punishment.
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oldtimecanuk Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:48 PM
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6. Damn, thats really enough to make a body puke... ugh..
Does anyone really have any doubt that this person ie: GWB is the DEVIL? I think that most of us have been aware of this since 9/11 I certainly know that I have.....

ww
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:36 AM
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22. AP: Bush beats Satan in poll.


Well. At least there's one thing the lying drunk is good at.

PS: A hearty welcome to DU, oldtimecanuk!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:48 PM
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7. "Resign right fuckin now and we'll clean up the mess you made"
We can't do jack shit with you around but if you take a hike there's a chance we might be able to save our republic. Leave the country and don't come back and maybe we won't have you prosecuted for war crimes.
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oldtimecanuk Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:52 PM
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8. That aint going to happen with this parasite.... As I said...
I believe that he really is the Devil, and guess what? Hugo was'nt very far wrong with that in the UN... I believe that he probably did smell sulpher....

ww
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:00 AM
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10. He'd never say that. Some folks are thinking he admitted mistakes
in that Iraq surge speech. He'd say something like, if things are messed up, it's my responsibility...
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:02 AM
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11. I'd say fine....
...and ask that he resign and take his whole filthy crew with him.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:03 AM
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12. "You really should give up snorting coke and hitting the booze" nt
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:09 AM
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14. Was there a snickers bar in his ear and that is why they got so close? (nt)
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:16 AM
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15. "Suck my cock."
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:32 AM
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19. You probably won't have to get him drunk first.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:16 PM
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31. Never mind!
:puke:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:25 AM
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16. He wouldn't listen to our suggestions anyway.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:35 AM
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21. out of the way is the first thing I would say to the blivet
and his minions
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:48 AM
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23. Do you like birdies bushitler? I have two for you.



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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:43 AM
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24. "Step aside--in fact, step down, and THEN we'll fix it." nt
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:46 AM
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25. Not just him but the whole cabal
Including the supremes he put in.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:49 AM
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26. Resign and report to the Hague.
And take Dick, Karl, Rummy and Wolfowitz with you.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:50 AM
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27. "You can't possibly fix the broken hearts of the many thousands of
people who have suffered at the hands of your insanity."
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:51 AM
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28. All King George's horses and all King George's men
Can't put murdered people back together again.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:55 AM
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29. I'd Say: "OK. Step Aside"
If he admits failure, and wants me to fight the fire, i don't want the arsonist on the team.

The Professor
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:26 AM
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30. We ain't yo daddy!
assclown.
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