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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:08 PM
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All the talk about dog fighting and then this on my local news: (warning: very disturbing)
DNA Taken From Pitbull That Raped 2-Year-Old

http://www.wfmynews2.com/news/mostpopular/article.aspx?storyid=86961&provider=top

snip

Lockport, NY -- Police say DNA has been taken from the pitbull that attacked a toddler by allegedly sodomizing it last weekend. It was a disturbing and violent attack. The two year old child is in Women and Children's Hospital. Neighbors heard a mother screaming that her child was being raped.



WTF????

Is this possible?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:09 PM
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1. I thought I'd heard it all.
:cry:
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:13 PM
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2. Good grief - never heard of such a thing
but guess it is possible. She has witnesses apparently since it took a guy from outside to get the dog off the baby.

Wonder if this was a pit bull used to breeding.

And did she put the baby down naked in the crib? Could some sick whacko in the house put the dog up to this?

This is one of those stories that give me chills.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:15 PM
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3. Sounds kind of fishy to me
Would you leave a baby alone with a pitbull? How in the hell did the dog get to the child's privates? Did she leave a naked toddler alone with the dog? Needless to say, it sounds like a horrendous event and I hope the child can get the help it will need.

The people calling to adopt the dog? Kind doglovers or sick mofos?
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:19 PM
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4. I just watched the video report on the 2nd story linked to OP article
and yes the mother did leave the child naked. Again, I'm wondering if someone inside the house put the dog up to this.

I'd bet this is a dog used to breeding and I wonder if a bitch was in the house or nearby if he was not put up to this.

This is a story I want to check back on.

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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:32 PM
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6. Good question - why was the child alone with the dog?

Maybe people calling to adopt feel the dog didn't do anything wrong. :shrug: Was this learned behavior or just an animal reacting to a scent?

The poor child - the article mentioned reconstructive surgery.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:47 PM
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11. I posted snippet in a later response
Apparently this happened very quickly. Mother said child took his own dirty diaper off and was sent in to living room to get a new one. I'm not a parent, but does a 2 year old know enough to get his own new diaper? Anyway, that was when the dog supposedly attacked him.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:28 PM
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5. I'm sorry but I think that's just more distracting lies made up to scare moms and justify the fight
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 07:33 PM by shance
ing and perhaps further the horrific abuse of these otherwise sensitive, loving animals.

Remember.....

JUST BECAUSE ITS SAID ON TV DOES NOT MEAN ITS NOT A BALD FACED LIE.

Could it be true? Possibly.

What are those circles in the corn fields of the heartland made by?

Aliens? Possibly.

Remember George Bush's state of the Union on the Weapons of Mass Destruction?

Wake up think for a moment.

Think of the overall possibilities in manufacturing such a tale.

Remember the famous Hitler quote, 'the bolder the lie, the more they'll believe it'?

Who benefits from such information like this being spewed?

Im not just redundantly implying the Bush Administration, but think who benefits.

Guess a story like this could help keep those horrible pit bulls in bidness fighting.

Perhaps that is why the pit bull has gotten such a bad reputation to begin with.

All those convenient stories about attacking babies and such.

How many do we know are actually legitimate?

Certainly pit bulls can attack and can harm - if they are tortured, terrorized, in bred, beaten, starved, then beaten again. You bet, they'll fight.

With regard to this story I have a hard time believing the mother would have been stupid enough to leave her child in the harms way of some attack dog. That's bullshit frankly. That or she or her husband need to be arrested for child neglect, not punish the dog.

Pit bulls aren't the size of African elephants - someone could have pulled him off or hit him with something to get him off.

Think about it.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:37 PM
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7. Excuse me - but this dog drug the boy still attached to it
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 07:38 PM by RamboLiberal
out on the porch where neighbors had to pull the dog off the child.

Now I don't know if the dog did this act on his own or was put up to it, but there were witnesses that the dog's penis was inside the child. And the hospital got the dog's DNA from the child's rectum. Watch the news video with interview of witness!

And not all these dogs are loving animals. Just like humans, there are some bad dogs out there, mostly made bad by humans.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:42 PM
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9. Bit more info
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 08:04 PM by RamboLiberal
Rumors are flying in the wake of last week’s pit bull attack on a 2-year-old boy, and investigators say they are trying to separate fact from fiction.

Lockport Police Detective Capt. Larry Eggert said he’s gotten several calls from people who say they have information about the circumstances surrounding the attack.

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Rumors have spread about the dog possibly having been trained to mount humans, perhaps in connection with drug activity at the home, but nothing has been proven, he said.

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Mary Grisanti, former humane educator in Erie County, said she has heard of one other case in which a dog sodomized a baby. In that case, it turned out a teenager was manipulating the dog and holding down the child.

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Dodman, who runs Tuft’s University’s veterinary center in Grafton, Mass., wrote of an instance in which an un-neutered male dog penetrated an 8-year-old female.

“The incident was in part due to lack of proper management of the dog by the parents, and the dog, who was 5 years of age at the time of the incident, should have been neutered,” Friedman said. “I have to wonder, as all us canine professionals are wondering, why not only was the dog un-neutered, but why the parents left the dog alone unsupervised with a toddler for any period of time?”

http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local_story_199144245.html

Lockport Police Detective Capt. Larry Eggert said the toddler had removed his own soiled diaper and asked to be changed just before the attack. His mother sent him into the living room to get a new diaper, Eggert said.

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Holly Hackmer, a veterinary technician at Brighton-Eggert Animal Clinic in Tonawanda, said she believes the dog may have smelled something in the air that triggered the attack.

“Maybe this dog smelled a female going into heat in the area,” she said. “We see dogs jump through windows, go through doors. They become overly aggressive. It’s the testosterone running through their system.”

Madeline Friedman, owner of Innovative Reality Dog Training and Behavior Consulting in New York City, said the dog could have even smelled something on the child.

Friedman — who prefers to call the incident an “anomaly” instead of a “sexual attack” — said dogs have over 250 million scent detectors in their noses, while humans have only 5 million. Several things could have contributed to the smells in the air that day, including the early-afternoon humidity and the fact that the boy had just removed a dirty diaper.

http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local_story_194125921.html

Lockport Police say any firsthand information from the public will be helpful. They are investigating how a pitbull sodomized a toddler.

Police are getting many phone calls from people, but they want to hear from individuals with first-hand knowledge about the dog. They are looking into calls that the dog may have been trained, but they don't know by whom.

http://www.wgrz.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=49447

As the investigation continues animal behavior experts say it's possible for an animal to sexually attack a human on its own. However a spokesperson for the Erie County SPCA says history shows similar cases always had another human involved in the attack and there was previous abuse. "In the four cases we're familiar with in the country in the past couple of decades, the animal was trained to behave in such a manner," Gina Browning said. "It is tied in usually with some form of domestic violence and/or child pornography, just a brutal history of such cases." In the recent Lockport case police say there's no evidence that anyone forced the dog to attack the boy, but they're still investigating.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19858693
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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:46 PM
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10. very interesting.
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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:39 PM
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8. I agree with you about dogs and how they are raised. It's the owners not the dogs
to blame for bad behavior.

My sister has a rottweiler and a pampered poodle. I would much rather dog sit her rottie, she is sweet as can be - the poodle is a snappy little bitch.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:56 PM
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12. I'm really surprised this story didn't go national
or is it too tawrdry for even the cable nets?
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