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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:31 AM
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Lieberman: U.S. pullout from Iraq would be an epic victory for al Qaeda, as significant as 9/11

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118186952085836239-search.html?KEYWORDS=iraq&COLLECTION=wsjie/6month


What I Saw in Iraq
By Joseph Lieberman


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In Baghdad, however, discussions with the talented Americans responsible for leading this fight are more balanced, more hopeful and, above all, more strategic in their focus -- fixated not just on the headline or loss of the day, but on the larger stakes in this struggle, beginning with who our enemies are in Iraq. The officials I met in Baghdad said that 90% of suicide bombings in Iraq today are the work of non-Iraqi, al Qaeda terrorists. In fact, al Qaeda's leaders have repeatedly said that Iraq is the central front of their global war against us. That is why it is nonsensical for anyone to claim that the war in Iraq can be separated from the war against al Qaeda -- and why a U.S. pullout, under fire, would represent an epic victory for al Qaeda, as significant as their attacks on 9/11.

Some of my colleagues in Washington claim we can fight al Qaeda in Iraq while disengaging from the sectarian violence there. Not so, say our commanders in Baghdad, who point out that the crux of al Qaeda's strategy is to spark Iraqi civil war.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:33 AM
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1. The burden is on him to prove such an asinine assertion.
:eyes:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:33 AM
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2. Lieberman asked to resign from his own party
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:52 AM
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10. seconded...
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:34 AM
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3. Why does Joe get more of a forum than any other Senator on Iraq/Iran?
Who elevated him to this importance, that we are treated to daily and weekly dispatches from his fucked-up worldview? How much is the Chimpy/Cheney administration paying him to be their pet spokeshole?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:41 AM
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8. Because he won't keep his ignorant yap shut about it.
Edited on Fri Jun-15-07 09:41 AM by BurtWorm
:grr:
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:34 AM
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4. 911 was not a victory for Al Qaeda, it nearly marked the end of them
Nearly every human on earth was horrified by 911. Iraq was the real victory for Al Qaeda because it rehabilitated them and provided countless recruits.
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:37 AM
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6. Agreed. 911 was a victory for the Military Industrial Complex and Big oil nt.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:35 AM
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5. Yeah, every time Sadr gets closer to Sunnis, the Golden Mosque gets hit.
Let's face it, it's a brutally simple and effective strategy and the civil war is already quite sparked, US presence or not.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:39 AM
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7. If what Lieberman writes is true, why then have the Iraqi people not joined
... en mass with American forces to expel al Qaeda? And why are American commanders ordering the slaughter of Iraqis along with al Qaeda? This logic of Joe Lieberman's leaks like a sieve!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:48 AM
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9. News Flash Joe: Iraq is already lost.
It wasn't only lost to al Qaeda. It was lost to Iraqi patriots who, like anyone else, want to run their own affairs rather than be ruled by a foreign occupiers. The victory you speak of has already been handed to al Qaeda by you and your good buddies the neo-cons. Had we fought them where they were instead of invading a country that had nothing to do with them things might be different now. You and your neo-con friends have boosted al Qaeda's prestige in the Muslim world. You and the neo-cons have made them what they are today. You are fools and it's time for you to sit down and shut up before you do any more damage.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:54 AM
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11. It was an epic victory for al Qaeda and terrorism the day Bush said
"9/11 changed everything"
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:57 AM
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12. So, fine, GI Joe, then take a machine gun and
put the gear on and get your ass on over to Iraq instead of expecting other people's family members to do the hard, bloody work. What's that you say? You don't like sand and heat, and you've never learned how to fire a weapon and it's not your job, anyway, you're too important and the country needs you in the Senate? You chickenshit, chickenhawk murderous warmongering neocon SOB.

Figures the fucker was a supporter of Vietnam while safely ensconced in his fancy Ivy-League fantasy world. God forbid he should actually have to put his money where his mouth is, don't you know that fighting in a war you support is only for the proles? Fucker. My uncle was a Marine in Vietnam who didn't have much choice in the matter, and he absolutely hates fuckers like this, and with good reason.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 10:08 AM
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15. I shudder remembering that I voted for him for VP.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:59 AM
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13. Joseph & the Amazing Technicolor Dream Spin. Fuck you joe.
Edited on Fri Jun-15-07 10:14 AM by Philosoraptor
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 10:03 AM
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14. I'm sorry, but it's time for another posting of Joe's...
man-boobs

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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 10:19 AM
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17. We should all pitch in and buy him a "bro" or "mansierre".
The big-titted bastard. He gives tits a bad name.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 10:14 AM
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16. The antidote to Holy Joe's bullshit is here:
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