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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 05:55 PM
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The No-Confidence roll-call vote...
Edited on Mon Jun-11-07 05:56 PM by MonkeyFunk
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00207


Grouped By Vote Position YEAs ---53
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lincoln (D-AR)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Sununu (R-NH)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---38
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

Present - 1
Stevens (R-AK)

Not Voting - 7
Biden (D-DE)
Brownback (R-KS)
Coburn (R-OK)
Dodd (D-CT)
Johnson (D-SD)
McCain (R-AZ)
Obama (D-IL)
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 05:57 PM
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1. It figures. Stevens was the goof who yelled "present".
I guess it wasn't that important a vote. Biden and Obama were out on the trail. Evidently it didn't matter that much to them.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 05:59 PM
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2. Stevens voting Present
was a nice surprise, actually.

Voting "present" doesn't mean he doesn't think it's important. It means he didn't want to go on record as supporting Gonzales.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:00 PM
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7. Oh. Thanks.
I just assumed. Not smart of me.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 05:59 PM
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3. now if only Biden, Dodd and Obama were there...
Nothing would have changed...
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. heheh...
very true. But expect to see a lot of flailing and screaming over it.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #6
16. We're seeing it already.
If someone wants to start a club to scream and flail over the issue that Reid is wasting everybody's time with masturbatory bills like this cheesy non-binding symbolic crap, I'd be happy to join.

That time could have been spent crafting legislation that would actually solve problems.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:00 PM
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4. I'm not Nostradamus, but I predict
Hillary Clinton will get almost zero DU love for voting today.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. No. I give her credit
Edited on Mon Jun-11-07 06:01 PM by BlueStater
Too bad I can't say the same for Biden or Obama.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. Biden, Obama and Dodd
were all co-sponsors of the resolution. They are already on record.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #4
12. What do you mean?
Her stock just went up several notches with me. And I have been opposed to her. Obama went down several notches.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #12
38. Actually, this is a no stock vote.
I know we all know how every single one of the non-voting members would have voted.
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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #4
17. Much DU love for Hillary
there are you happy? I mean big frickin whoop! She's my hero.
Whats with lie-berduche? I mean cant he even vote with Dems on a non-binding resolution to go forward with a non-binding resolution?

Obama got it right - why bother even showing up when the thing your voting on is not gonna have any teeth to it. I mean I'm sure smiley could really give a shit when the Dems vote to tell him "we dont like you - boo hoo"
I say, until your ready to file charges and throw his ass in jail for lying, which they have ample evidence to prove, whats the point in wasting any more time or any more of our money.

Geez - these guys really are turning out to be useless.
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:00 PM
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5. Thanks for putting this list up. Obama's office is going to get a call
from me tomorrow. I am not happy that he wasn't there to vote.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. His vote wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome of the measure.
And this measure wouldn't have made a difference in AG's job status.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #9
15. This was not about outcome. This was about standing
up for what you believe. Voting for this took courage and the willingness to lead. Obama failed to join the leaders. Obama's vote was especially important because of the meaning of this for voting rights for minorities.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:09 PM
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18. Oh bullshit.
How much courage does it take to cast a vote to censure some schmuck that only the kool-aid drinkers like?

If he's on the record as saying AG should resign, that has the same impact as wasting time on some meaningless non-binding symbolic vote.

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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:19 PM
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20. I'm glad someone sees this.
For goodness sakes... this was Important??? a vote of 'no confidence'?? Are you all kidding?? It's about as 'important' as non-binding resolutions. This was nothing more than making themselves look like they're doing something while not doing anything of substance. Like, how many letters has Reid sent to Condi now, 17 ?? She thumbs her nose, like Rove thumbs his nose, like * thumbs his nose. All sound and fury signifying nothing.

What, lying under oath isn't impeachable? What, strongarming a hospitalized AG, ignoring him and the acting AG, and continuing an illegal wiretapping program is not impeachable? What more do these people need to do something that DOES have teeth.

The same damn people who voted this way, would vote the same way on impeachment. So why waste your time with political theater... and that's all this is as far as I'm concerned. Look at how little we even expect from them anymore ... this symbolic do-nothing political bs is now SO IMPORTANT. This was a waste of time, and even if everyone were there playing the game, it would have amounted to absolutely nothing.

Obama has lost nothing in my book because he saw through it all. If he'd missed a vote on Iraq, or impeachment, or .. hell, anything at all that amounted to anything, I'd feel differently. Not by this. But, hey, that's just me.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #20
34. Obama was one of the cosponsors.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:SJ00014:@@@L&summ2=m&

I swear people get upset by the dumbest shit.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:03 PM
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10. Obama, Biden and Dodd -- not voting. For shame.
Cowards all. I'm especially troubled by Obama's failure to vote. This is a voting rights issue. Obama's failure to support this censure motion is a betrayal of the civil rights movement. Democrats brought this vote in great part because Gonzalez refused to enforce the Voting Rights Act. Obama's failure to vote is shocking. Nothing should be more important to him than voting on this -- other than a pressing family emergency.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #10
22. All three of them were
co-sponsors of the resolution.

They put themselves on record. They didn't vote on a meaningless measure that was doomed to fail.

If there were any chance of it passing this hurdle, I believe they would've been there to vote.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:37 PM
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27. If they thought it was a meaningless measure, why did they co-sponsor it?
They should take a cue from the Republicans who stand their ground whether there is a chance of winning or not. No wonder many Americans see the Democrats as spineless.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:40 PM
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28. If it had come to a vote
they'd have been there.

This was a procedural motion.

But nonetheless, I'm not even fond of this action. It doesn't bother me that they tried, but a no-confidence vote has absolutely no meaning in this country. A censure would've been something meaningful; impeachment even more so.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #28
29. In any event they should have been there. The campaign has started
far too early.

All three should be in Washington doing their jobs, not pressing flesh and raising money for their presidential runs.

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. I don't know where they were
today. They might've been campaigning, maybe not. I have no idea.

But I disagree that a 100% attendance record is the best measure of a Senator's effectiveness.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. Of course it isn't. But this was no Mother's Day resolution or a
June is Strawberry Month proclamation. They should have been there. They helped an all-too-willing corporate media to put Rove's spin on the vote.

And campaigning for the presidency is not a good measure either.


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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #31
33. This wasn't a vote on the measure
it was a procedural vote that *I* knew was going to fail, as long as a week ago.

Anybody here who really thought the Republicans would let this proceed deserves to be greatly disappointed.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 09:02 PM
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32. Meaningless
Co-sponsoring doesn't mean anything if you don't show up to vote. In fact, its rather dishonest.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #22
40. All three of them are bozos when it comes to understanding
how voters think. It's the vote that counts -- the number of votes the Democrats could gather on this action. Cosponsoring something does not show up on the radar screen of the news on the action.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #10
36. Cut the histrionics.
Obama was a cosponsor of this bill:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:SJ00014:@@@L&summ2=m&

How do you reconcile the accusation that he's a coward for not voting for it with the fact that he cosponsored it?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 07:07 PM
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39. What does it mean to be a cosponsor if you don't show up for the vote?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:03 PM
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11. Good to see that all the Dems voted aye
We still don't have the vote, but we will, and then we can effect some change... We tried to expose the corruption for what it was.... Let the rethugs answer to their constiuents....
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:05 PM
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14. where the fuck were biden, dodd, obama??????
Edited on Mon Jun-11-07 06:06 PM by spanone
maybe they are waiting for something IMPORTANT.

Ruthugs put politics above law. Shame on America.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #14
19. They must be
keeping their powder dry.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #14
23. All three of them were
co-sponsors of the resolution.

They were on record.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. All the more reason to show up.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #25
26. For a symbolic vote
on a symbolic issue that was bound to fail?

Nah.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #26
35. It and many votes are symbolic. But the Democrats' failure to stand
their ground has become a major issue. Reagan gained respect for standing his ground, even though most Americans disagreed with him on many issues.

The idea that only winning counts has unfortunately been embraced by many Democrats in Washington. The symbolism of their not standing their ground has made its mark and has become a problem for the party.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #35
37. DUers might check the roll call votes on the Senate website,
but average Americans don't.

Showing up for a meaningless symbolic vote does not constitute standing one's ground any more than cosponsoring that meaningless resolution or speaking out against AG elsewhere.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:32 PM
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21. Nay Lieberman (ID-CT)
:grr:
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:25 PM
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24. Is anyone in the least surprised? I'm not. nt
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