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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:02 PM
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My Abortion
Although I support most discussion here on Women’s Choice – I have been hesitant to share my own abortion story. Because I was not a teenager, and I was not fearful for my life, or a single mom, or in dire financial straits. Those reasons elicit compassionate responses, and generous empathy for a woman’s situation that steered her to her difficult choice. My story will cause a few to look at me with new eyes – because there was no reason for me to seek a termination but my sincere wish to not be pregnant.

My first pregnancy took me by surprise. Twenty-two and single. What led me to carry this child to term was how I inhaled with wonder and awe at the blue line I saw on the stick. I was pregnant. My initial thrill at my predicament was what I kept coming back to when I told the father, and he did not want me to give birth to this baby. “I’ve made my decision”, I told him, “your decision will now be – will you financially or emotionally support this child. I am giving you an out – but when you come to me with your answer, there are no take-backs.” He chose to be a father to my daughter – we married after she was born. While using birth control, I got pregnant again – and again we faced a decision – easier this time. Yes, it would be tough, but we brought my son into this world.

We divorced a few years later – and I married my current husband. Together, we decided to have a third child – my second son – my first “tried-for” pregnancy. It was wonderful – although I thought I would be a bit jaded by motherhood already – when I heard his echo-ey heartbeat for the first time on the doppler, I unexpectedly burst into tears of joy.

Financially, I was able to be a stay-at-home mom to three great kids. PTA boards, Girl Scout Leader, classroom volunteer… I did it all with happiness. They grew up in a decent home with a yard and lots of love and friends.

Now the littlest is well into grade school and my oldest a teenager. One day, I found myself thinking, as a man checked out my sixteen year-old – “the torch has been passed, it’s their turn now.” I felt a great peace. I began to say No to a few volunteer assignments and sought part-time work. The extra money was a nice boon for my kids – extra classes or lessons, and I found a part of myself that I had forgotten about. Life was good. My letting go had begun.

Several months ago, I began taking short naps – quite odd for me. Then there was intermittent nausea. Panic began somewhere deep within me – a kind I have never felt before. The blue line nearly caused me to vomit. I sat there in my bathroom, the cold tile bruising my knees, and randomly flushed the toilet. Watching the water swirl away made me dizzy, but I couldn’t stop – because it kept me from crying.

My husband and I sat down – and I told him that I was pregnant. I purposely kept my face blank, and watched him intently. His reaction was so very important to me. He exhaled and looked at me. “Do you want to have another baby?” he asked.

“I don’t know”, I lied. We agreed to sleep on it.

The next day, I took a trip to Target and wandered down their baby isle. Sweet, soft blankets, tiny socks, precious bonnets. It all felt like chains wrapping around me. After dinner, my husband told me that he loved me and would fully support any decision I made. I told him that I wanted to have an abortion. It came out much easier than I thought it would. “Okay.” He said. He was pleased.

The clinic had no protestors outside. The waiting room was full of people – but it was nice – I did not feel alone, so many others needed the service this staff caringly offered. They were very considerate, and gently offered alternatives if I was interested. I was not. They discussed birth control after the termination. I felt a tiny wave of thanks wash through my soul - that my daughter and I lived in this time in this country. I felt great love for my husband as he paid with a credit card – a traceable transaction – not shameful cash. The doctor had a soft. Southern accent and kind eyes and hands. I left tired, and wondered if I would regret what I had just done.

The physical healing was quick, but something nagged at me. Guilt. It was small pangs of guilt. The guilt I felt was because I was not tormented by my abortion. I was not haunted by it, and I felt that I should be – that my abortion was somehow not justified or allowed because it was not a wrenching decision for me.

I will always treasure the memories of quiet moments spent nursing my three children, of toothless grins and birthday parties. I still love being a mom to my kids – I just didn’t have any more to give. I couldn’t start over. Not again. Every part of my mind knew that – from the moment I became pregnant, I think. I trusted my gut the first time I saw a blue line, and again when it caused a very different, but still visceral reaction.

Last night, my husband and I celebrated our wedding anniversary, and he said over coffee, “the other day I saw a baby, and thought, wouldn’t it be nice.” It didn’t hurt. Not at all. I smiled a little and said, “well, you could have a baby right now, you know” and counted on my fingers for the first time how old he or she would have been if I had chosen to bring that pregnancy to term. We both shook our heads no and laughed. There was no pain. No guilt. It was over, and I felt ready to share – no matter how I was judged. Today, I log on to this community and it is abuzz with Choice and abortion threads – so I know the time is right. Think of me what you will. I am a complete person who made the decision that was right for me. And I will not be made to feel shame.

Bless all of you women and men in all of your decisions. I know I made the right one.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:08 PM
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1. I honor your honesty and willing to share...
I also cringe a bit because we are in a period where many DUers are feeling less than compassionate. I just saw a very brave, relatively new DUer driven off by the callous comments of one well known DUer in response to her admission of having paid for a major mistake--having driven drunk years ago, with a jail sentence. This brave DUer was not condoning such action, but sharing so others might learn from it. The "thanks" received for such honesty was sufficient cruelty to drive that person away from DU.

SO, let me be among the first to honor you, FlDem5, your honesty and your decision. Let me also put some sanctimonious DUers on notice. NONE of us is immune to human frailty. We are ALL here to learn from one another.

Thank you for sharing, FlDem5.
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:09 PM
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2. You made the right decision for you
And that's all that matters. I don't judge another woman's choice because if it's not my uterus it's not my business.
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:12 PM
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3. Only you know what's right for you.
In each case it sounds like you were happy with your decision, that it felt right, and therefore it was right. What others may think, doesn't matter. And every woman should be able to make that choice without shame or guilt or coercion.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:13 PM
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4. Thank you for sharing. k&r
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Sukie1941 Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:17 PM
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5. I tried so hard and failed
to have a child.

I remember when I was at a clinic in Portland, Oregon waiting to have a dye test that would determine whether my tubes were blocked (one of several tests I would undergo). My cervix was diliated to early stages of child birth. Everything seemed OK, said the doctor. My husband was checked for sperm count. I was on early-day fertility pills that caused me to climb walls.

Nothing worked.

But I remember one day when I was at my doctor's office that there were two women, apparently personal friends, in the clinic for abortions. I was in the dressing room and heard them talking about how rough early pregancy was, how they hated the morning sickness. "I can't imagine nine months of this," one of them said. They had abortions.

I never did get pregnant, but I adopted two sisters (ages 18 months and 29 months) and then my hubby left me nearly iiving in the streets.

That was the beginning of the end.

I am 65 now and would love to raise an infant. My grandkids are in Australia. I have never seen them. Six little girls. Life is strange.
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flying_monkeys Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:35 PM
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21. I am so sorry you experienced infertility.
It can be quite hard to bear somedays - - but I hope you support the right to choose for your 6 lovely granddaughters.


I hope they are neither faced with a need to abort or with infertility....


(And I hope you get to Oz soon to visit them!)

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 11:03 PM
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26. Oh, Sukie...
:hug:
That brought tears to my eyes.
Life can be so unfair. The failure is not yours.
:hug:

Hekate

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MiaCulpa Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:17 PM
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6. Bless your brave heart for sharing your experience.
I'm also so glad for you that your husband was 'on the same page' as you, and respected what you chose for your own body. I hope you never feel any shame, and that some day, all women can make their choice without shame or judgement, whatever their reasons for doing so. Politics and other people's 'morals' have no place in these decisions. You sharing today is a step in that direction.

Peace,

Diane
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:18 PM
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7. This is what choice means.
No one can walk in your shoes, live your life, condone or condemn. It really is all up to the woman to decide what is best at that particular time. Trusting womem is what it is really all about.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:19 PM
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8. I'm glad you're at peace with your decision. It was yours and
yours alone to make even though your husband had input. You knew what was right for you and your family.

I've never been pregnant and will never be (much too old), but I believe all women should have the choice no matter the circumstances. If a person chooses to have something removed from his/her body, no one has the right to deny him/her that choice.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:20 PM
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9. Thank you for your story
and it could have been the story of many of my friends who already had their families complete and made the choice you did.

The bottom line for any woman who has an elective abortion is whether or not she wants this pregnancy at this time in her life. Some of my friends have said yes, some have said no, and my job wasn't to understand but to support whatever decision they arrived at.

Pregnancy and childbirth are inherently risky. They must be voluntary.

Your husband sounds like a true mensch.

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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 08:12 PM
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10. K & R....
I am glad you shared your experience with us...I'm sure many women have had similar ones.

Women are not going to go back to the back alley butchers...we won't let that happen...EVER.

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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 08:25 PM
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11. If you've ever had a miscarriage, you might be alive now because abortion is legal
After 1973, there was a huge drop in abortion-related maternal deaths, but not as many people motice the drop in maternal deaths from pregnancies that women attempted to carry to term. In small town midwestern America in the 50s, if you went into the emergency room with a miscarriage, they would just let you lay there and bleed until they were sure the fetus was out. If you bled to death in the meantime, tough shit--it was more important that the hospital staff keep their noses clean legally.

I gave up on having kids after three miscarriages, every single one of which was after 1973. I am very grateful for that, and still remember one of my neighbors bleeding to death in the emergency room and leaving two kids motherless. "Pro-life" my sweet ass!
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 03:52 PM
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58. EXCELLENT point
Thank you for bringing that up.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:09 PM
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12. I think the worst part about an abortion is the fear of getting mowed
down or bombed by some nut or followed home and terrorized by some deranged protester.

Thanks for your story.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:15 PM
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14. Not just abortion, for that
One time I was between GYNs and needed a visit ASAP. I had just switched jobs, so taking time off work wasn't a possibility. I found a clinic near my office that accepted my insurance and made a lunchtime appointment. In the process of researching it, I found that it did abortions and was on Operation Rescue's "Hey, if someone went over there and shot someone, Gawd would reward you" site.

:scared:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:20 PM
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16. Oy vey. I still don't understand how the crazies can justify killing
people to save lives. I guess the same way the yahoos can justify attacking a country to free it.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:11 PM
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13. k&r...n/t
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:16 PM
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15. Your body, your choice
Don't let anyone tell any female anything different!

I agree with abortion of demand. And if the wing nuts wants to call that pro-abortion, I'm okay with that.

-Cindy in Fort Lauderdale
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Heathen57 Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 01:08 PM
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48. 'Pro-Abortion' is probably misleading
To me it sounds like you are really pro-choice, if I am not mistaken.

'Pro-Abortion' would really mean that you were advocating abortion for every pregnancy. That is what the pro-fetus crowd is trying to make anyone who thinks a woman should have the right to choose look like. And we are not.

Pro-choice is just what it says. The woman should have the right to choose whether to carry to term or not. I don't advocate one way or the other, rather I think that ultimately the woman has to have the power to decide.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:46 PM
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17. You're an excellent writer.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 01:46 PM
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52. I second that. n/t
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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:48 PM
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18. I understand and support your choice completely.
:hug:
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:08 PM
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19. Thank you.
Your paragraph about guilt due to lack of torment was beautiful. I have struggled for 35 years to articulate my personal experience but could never find the right words.

You have provided the perfect reminder of why we read - to find the commonality of the human experience.
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:13 PM
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20. All you'll get from me


...is a big :hug:

Thank-you for sharing your story.

:hug:
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flying_monkeys Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:41 PM
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22. I wouldn't look on you any differently :)
Your body, YOUR decision about when to procreate or not procreate. I am glad that we have the ability in the USA (well, parts of the Us) to keep that a legal and safe choice for all women, regardless of their reasons for wanting to procure an abortion. I am happy that your husband and you were on the same page :)


(My youngest is 7 now and I would positively SOB if I saw a blue line on a pee stick. We are done with the baby stage - - so I completely understand your feelings and decision here.)
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:57 PM
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23. You did what was right for you and your family.
Thank goodness we are still allowed to make that choice. And you should be commended for not being pressured into something that wasn't right for you. Thanks for sharing this heartfelt story with us.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:59 PM
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24. Bless you for your deep honesty with yourself and with us...
:hug:
I've never done so, but I've been lucky that way. Other women, close and dear to me, have been faced with very different circumstances.

I think -- I believe -- that women are moral agents and that our mature decisions regarding reproduction have a spiritual dimension. You listened to your deepest heart each time, and consulted honestly with your boyfriend and husband each time. How joyful to bring children into such a relationship; how rational to know when to say "Not now."

Hekate

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 11:02 PM
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25. Thank you, FLDem5.
:)
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 05:47 AM
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27. Thank you for sharing your story
I'm glad you did what you felt needed doing, and hope women will always have that chance to do what they feel is best for them. :hug:
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 07:18 AM
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28. Your heartfelt story shows the way this type of decision should
be made. It is a personal decision and should have nothing to do with anyone else except those with whom you wish to share. I applaud the manner in which you came to your decision.

It saddens me that so many are unable to make this choice and do not have the means to carry through with their decision. A safe procedure would cost money and many do not have the money to pay for it.
It should not be the decision of the state, federal government or the religious community to impose its judgment on any woman who choose this procedure.

It is private, It is personal, and it is no-one else's business.

THank you for sharing.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 07:43 AM
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29. Bravo!
A brilliant post from the heart. I am delighted that you were afforded the luxury of being able to make a decision that was right for you. It may not be too long when we will not be able to walk into a safe, public clinic to obtain an abortion because of the stacking of the Supreme Court by Federalist Society judges. The country has taken an ugly turn down a dark alley of sinister religious dogma.

I believe that a woman needs to make these decisions on her own for whatever reason. Just as I believe that the religious kooks should be able to believe whatever contorted crapola they want to and be able to marinate their brains in... I just want them to keep their religious doo-doo in their churches and their homes.
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:08 AM
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30. Knowing when it's *not* the time to have a baby is very important
You did not make a decision lightly, or out of fear, or from manipulation.

That is what every woman deserves who is facing an unplanned pregnancy. I am so thankful that we are living (for now) in an era and place where this is possible for many women.

Thank you for sharing your story.

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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:17 AM
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31. If ever a thread deserved a K&R,
this one is it.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:19 AM
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32. Thank you for sharing your heart-felt story.
You seem a caring, decent, brave woman with a wonderful family. I wish you happiness and peace.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:42 AM
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33. You made the decision that was best for you. No one should have
the right to interfere with that.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 09:32 AM
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34. You most certainly did make the right one for you
As a Mom, BirthMom, and woman who had an abortion, giving my child to another Mother was by far the hardest and most gut wrenching, the one decision I think of often..

Im one of those 'all things happen for a reason' person. No regrets. And Im glad you dont have any either.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 09:37 AM
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35. You need not give any excuse
nor apology to ANYONE! Your body, your choice. Period!
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 09:46 AM
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36. If I got preggers now, I'd probably abort, too.
My health isn't that great still from losing my kidney last fall, and it would be really hard on me to carry another baby, let alone raise the little one. I always said I would never personally have an abortion, but after the last couple of bad years of health, I would seriously consider it if it were to happen now. Even Hubby agrees with me on this. It's not that my remaining kidney couldn't handle pregnancy, it's more that I still have some complications that we're dealing with and wouldn't want to take a chance that everything would get worse in carrying a baby.

You made the right decision for you and your family--and you're not alone. Something like 40% of abortions in the US are to mothers, most of whom are married. So much for the pregnant teen story.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 01:48 PM
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53. Yep. 2nd group with highest unplanned pregnancies is 40-somethings.
"So much for the pregnant teen story."
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 09:56 AM
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37. That was so wonderful.
I had an abortion at the age of 39, six months after I had open heart surgery. Though I've never regretted it, I still have some small, nagging doubts about myself as a person because I don't feel badly enough about it--as though I need to be punished or something. I am so glad that you wrote what you did. It takes courage to say it and the way you said it was so eloquent and true. Thank you.
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motocicleta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 09:59 AM
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38. Thank you.
Occasionally, I feel the exact same guilt for not being tormented. I now have a healthy, happy four year old and another on the way, but 17 years ago I would not have been a good father. It's just the truth, and we made the right decision back then, and I don't regret it. Sometimes I just feel guilty for not regretting it.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:05 AM
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39. Perfect, every word. Your experience resonates with many, I'm sure.
And your description of the relief is powerful. If women were as guilt-stricken afterwords as the anti-choice crowd would have us believe, it would be almost non-existent.

MKJ

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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:26 AM
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40. Thank you FLDem for sharing
Every woman's story is different, every decision made is complex and done with careful consideration. Nobody should ever judge you or any other woman for making such a personal choice. I applaud your honesty and wish more people would open up about their reasons for their choices regarding abortion. You are not alone, none of us is. Many have faced the same choice before, and many will in the future. It is our job to support and accept them in their decisions, not judge them or try to make them feel guilty. Nobody can know what is best for you.. more than you.

Thanks again for sharing!
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:45 AM
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41. People change over time and thats okay
My daughter got pregnant at 17 and decided to keep her baby and marry (at 18). She said it was her mistake. I tried at the time to talk her into adoption she was so young and against abortion. Now move forward to today. My grandson is 10 she has another who is 8. She has almost died 3 times with emergency things needing surgery and the last was a ectopic pregnancy she didn't know about until it was almost too late. She only has one tube left but she said, mom I can't do this again if anything were to happen I would get an abortion and for her that was alot to say. She also was on birth control with all her pregnancies. The pill. And by some crazy miracle she just celebrated her 10th wedding anniversay and they are happy...go figure...got to break the odds...great kid...manager of office...GED and no other schooling worked her way up.

My point is people change and time does things to you. Life does. We still have choice to make, thank God.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:46 AM
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42. Thank you for telling your story and taking the risk of possible judgement
No one ever has the right to ask a woman to justify this decision. Too often here in the DU abortion threads there seems to be an "it's ok if..." standard even among some of the pro-choice contigent that suggests a woman either has to be underage, alone, or poor before her abortion is acceptable. I even resent the tone of the "safe, legal and rare' meme. I'm all for safe and legal -- it's in the 'rare' that the judgement starts. It's no one's damn business why a woman aborts -- it's her uterus, after all.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:51 AM
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43. (((FLDem5)))
Edited on Mon Jun-11-07 10:51 AM by Solly Mack
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 11:16 AM
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44. K&R
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 11:18 AM
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45. Thank you for sharing your story.
I know it was probably a hard decision, but whatever was the right one for you and your husband was right. No one should judge you for a very personal decision. You should never feel ashamed for it.

:hug:
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 11:51 AM
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46. i too made this decision twice before
do i regret it? no. would i do it again? yes. my body, my choice.
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 12:37 PM
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47. One part of your post jumps out for me
Edited on Mon Jun-11-07 12:38 PM by Zandor
"The guilt I felt was because I was not tormented by my abortion. I was not haunted by it, and I felt that I should be – that my abortion was somehow not justified or allowed because it was not a wrenching decision for me."

It's too bad society made you feel that you should somehow be haunted by your abortion, and made you feel guilty that you weren't. You were 100% correct and entitled to make the decision you did.

K & R
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 01:22 PM
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49. My mother
had an abortion in the early 1960's--an illegal one, literally performed with a bedspring. The father was her own father. Whenever I see a "thank God your mother was pro-life" bumper sticker I think how much better off my family is without having a big brother/sister who is the product of rape and incest.

Anti-abortion zealots cannot seem to grasp that we are pro-family and pro-choice. Having a kid has been the greatest joy of my life, but that does not mean that I wouldn't support my wife having an abortion tomorrow. Every pregnancy is potentially dangerous to the mother, and it should always be her decision whether or not to terminate, without regard for whether she's married, has been raped, is a minor, etc. In this case, it was something the OP knew in her gut would be something she didn't want to do, and you have to trust that.

The anti-abortion folks are busily trying to medicalize post-abortion guilt, creating a new mental illness called something along the lines of "post-abortion trauma disorder," claiming every woman who has an abortion will go through some sort of depression. I know for a fact, though, that my mom never felt any such "trauma," apart from the process of the amateurishly performed procedure itself. A far greater trauma would have been to have had to raise a child who was her own half sibling.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 01:33 PM
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50. Married women have abortion too
Edited on Mon Jun-11-07 01:33 PM by HockeyMom
Just being "faithful" in your marriage does not mean that a woman will never have to make a decision to have an abortion. The reasons are as varied as are the individuals. The anti choice people don't want to hear or know about these women.

I will give you the case of my Aunt back in the day when it was still illegal. The woman lived to be 84 years old and never regretted it. It was simply something she HAD to do at the time.

Back in the 1940's Aunt Millie was a married, middle aged, middle class woman with two grown daughters. She had used a combination of condoms and diaphragms throughout her marriage. She was going through menopause and hadn't had a period in 6 months, so she thought she could stop using BC. Three months after, the morning sickness started and she was pregnant. My uncle, who was 50 at the time, had just been diagnosed with cancer. They did not want to have a child at their ages, especially with the fact of my uncle's cancer.

Aunt Millie paid her OB/GYN a huge sum of money to say that she needed a "therapeutic" (as it was called then) abortion because of her "heart condition" and her advanced age. It was done in the hospital, but it all had to be very hush, hush.

Aunt Millie had often spoken to me about all this. She said she was very fortunate in that she had money and connections. She also knew other women, who were less fortunate and young, who ended up trying to perform abortions on themselves, or in a "nurse's" kitchen, etc. I can remember her saying, very angrily at that, "NEVER let that happen ever again." She said this to me back in the 1980's. Could she forsee the handwriting on the wall?

It is never an easy decision to make, but all options must be available. We don't want hangers, bleach, kitchen tables, etc., to be ANY of those options.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 01:43 PM
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51. Here is what elicits compassionate response from me:
Panic began somewhere deep within me –

He exhaled and looked at me. “Do you want to have another baby?” he asked.
“I don’t know”, I lied. We agreed to sleep on it.

It all felt like chains wrapping around me.

I trusted my gut the first time I saw a blue line, and again when it caused a very different, but still visceral reaction.

I am a complete person who made the decision that was right for me.



This is good stuff. You should try to publish it somewhere.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 02:24 PM
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54. ADVICE BARBARA BUSH SHOULD HAVE TAKEN
the problem with pro-choice is that couples like barbara and george sr decide to choose to have the baby

they should not be given this option.... and if the circumstances arise again, anyone in that gene-pool should NOT have a choice
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 02:40 PM
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55. Thank-you for sharing that.
Your story puts a very human face on a decision that I don't believe anyone makes w/o due consideration, and for which there is no right answer for everyone or even the same right answer for someone at every stage of their life. As others have said this is very well written FLDem5, and I encourage you to seek a wider audience for this essay, I really do. Thanks again.
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StatGirl Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 02:46 PM
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56. In a society where women were regarded as human beings in our own right . . .
. . . there would be no need for you to share your story. I devoutly hope that someday we find ourselves living in that society.

I've often said that Terry Randall's definition of a woman is only a couple of inches higher than Larry Flynt's definition of a woman.

This is what the fight is all about. Thank you for reminding us.

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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 02:52 PM
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57. ...and....
Edited on Mon Jun-11-07 02:56 PM by Gilligan
This is an excellent piece of writing. It is publishable and should be read by a broader and more varied (unsympathetic) audience than we have here at the DU.

This places a real human face on a topic that seems to captivate the reichwing... (They love to debate the issue along with homosexual marriage... go figure.)

You are living your life the way you need to live it. Why would anyone else ever have the right to make these choices for you? Oh, I almost forgot... It's because their imaginary friend, Jesus, told them to.

ugh.

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 04:52 PM
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59. thank you all so much for your kind words (and hugs, Sollymack)
it means a lot - some mentioned sharing with a broader audience - I wouldn't know how - but if you want to post it somewhere else you frequent - I don't mind.

:loveya:

Y'all made me cry today with your support.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 05:22 PM
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60. you're welcome.
I think it's important for women to share there stories in a straightforward way. Thanks for doing that today.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 05:29 PM
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61. That's how it's supposed to work.
I like your story, because generally people got to make their choices.

--IMM
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 05:40 PM
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62. Thank you for sharing this story.
As a retired social worker, I wish all potential parents would this much thought into whether or not to bring a child into the world. Too many have the child (because "abortion is wrong"), and then are unable to parent the child appropriately. I'm concerned, not only about every child being a wanted child, but every child have a certain quality of life.

I would go out on call after call at the local, huge medical center. "I couldn't have an abortion, because it is wrong." Then, they promptly abandoned the child, after taxpayers spent literally hundreds of thousands of dollars detoxing the newborn from drugs. It was just insanity (I'm, of course, talking about a situation that is different from yours). I relate, however, because your responsibility calls to my mind the opposite - when people were IRRESPONSIBLE.

Blessings to you and yours.

Again, thanks.

:hug:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 05:45 PM
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63. You definately did make the right decision
and what's more, the three children you did bring into the world know that they were wanted and loved.

I'm past the time for bearing children, and never had any--a choice I made long ago. Like you, I have no regrets. I was never faced with the choice you made, and frankly don't know what my decision would have been. But I will fight for ALL women to continue to be able to have that choice.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 05:50 PM
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64. Hugs and thank you for sharing this eom
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greymattermom Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:45 PM
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65. the procedure
I was pregnant and the fetus died in utero at about 16 weeks. I had "the procedure", D and E. Intact or not, I don't know. Would that be illegal now? Is it the procedure that's illegal, or does the "baby" have to be alive at the time?
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 07:29 PM
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70. Dear Grey Matter....
The procedure you are speaking of is not illegal YET - It is a mid-trimester abortion that is used when a woman is as far along as you were at the time.

Abortion was made legal in 1973 - prior to that -You were on your own. The D and E abortion is a procedure which causes less trauma to the woman and IS the same as what you may be thinking of as the right-wing-religious-term "Partial birth abortion."

If you had the same thing happen to you prior to 1973, you would have been left on a table or bed to miscarry "naturally" and your chances of dying were far greater due to the insanity of the times. Even though you had a dead fetus inside your womb, you would have been made to suffer a terrible miscarriage and possible death due to a bunch of idiotic laws which wanted to dictate your choice.

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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:56 PM
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66. Your story illustrates the importance of a woman's right to choose.
And I'm so happy to hear that your talk with your husband during your wedding anniversary was all it took to shake the "small pangs of guilt" you felt because you were "not tormented by abortion".

I agree that you made the right decision for yourself, your husband, and your family.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:57 PM
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67. Your story elicits a compassionate response because you were in
dire straits. :hug: The turmoil you experienced is much the same of the teenager, the single mother etal. Never think otherwise. Thank you for sharing. You are a wonderful woman.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 07:12 PM
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68. not judging whatsoever - but
why weren't you on birth control?
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LBJDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 07:37 PM
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71. Who says she wasn't? n/t
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 07:39 PM
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72. I was - for 3 of the four pregnancies -
I used birth control regularly.
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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 07:19 PM
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69. It's important for people to be able to share this kind of story
I know it might have been hard for you to decide to tell it, because some people have shown they have unsympathetic reactions.

I think we're all very fortunate to have a forum like this where we can discuss these kinds of experiences.

I feel that the decision whether to have an abortion is the woman's own business. In a better society, making the decision to share a story such as this shouldn't have to be so difficult. It can be hard to decide whether to have a child or not -- but it's a decision that has to be made. I think you're very fortunate to have always had such a clearly defined visceral reaction so that you knew how to decide. It is an enormous commitment for a woman to make, and only she knows whether the time is right for it.

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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 07:44 PM
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73. What a great post, FLDem5.
:hug: Thank you for being so open and honest, and for sharing your story with us...that was a brave thing to do, and I'm very glad you did. I'm also very glad you did what was right for you at each of those points in your life, and I think that's really what it's all about. A few months ago when I was at school, one of the pro-choice groups on campus put up flyers with different reasons why women should be able to choose, and one of them was, "Because every child should be wanted, and every woman should be willing." I think that sums it up for me. Thanks again for sharing your story - I know that I, and others here, really appreciate it. :hi:
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 07:44 PM
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74. Thank you
From the bottom of my heart for sharing that story.:hug:
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 07:45 PM
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75. Thank you for sharing your story here
Hopefully it will help humanize this issue for those who still don't understand.
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jelly Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:03 PM
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76. Touching story, thanks for sharing.
Edited on Mon Jun-11-07 08:04 PM by jelly
I can relate completely. I was also married with children when I had my abortion about 11 years ago. It came as an overwhelming relief and I have never regretted it, although I have felt that same ironic guilt for not feeling guilty thing you describe. I suppose it helps that my husband was so supportive. I was relatively young and already had my hands full with my twins who were not a year old, and I had just started college. Having another baby would have meant dropping out of college (and who knows if I would have ever gone back) but most importantly, it would have taken away from the time and energy I had to devote to the kids I already had. I was a victim of child abuse, having grown up with eight brothers and sisters and raised by overwhelmed and frustrated parents who did not have the emotional capital to invest in all of us. I did not even want to risk putting my children in the same situation. The abortion itself was horribly unpleasant, nothing I ever wanted to go through again -- I got much more careful about birth control after that, let me tell you -- but I have no doubt that doing it has made a positive difference in my life and in the quality of my kids' life. It upsets me so much that there are forces at work in this country that seek to deny other women in my situation the choice I had. I am sick of the other side pushing the myth of the guilt-ridden woman who had an abortion. I hope as more people like us speak up (if only on an anonymous message board), the more the myth will be exposed for the malicious propaganda that it is.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 12:20 AM
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77. Thank you so very much
for sharing your story. You made the right decision for you. The only decisions I'm qualified, and entitled to make, are those I make regarding my own life. Neither I, nor anybody else, has the right to make decisions for YOU.

The guilt you felt about not regretting your decision is something that the anti-choice crowd has forced on you. What some anti-choices fail to realize, is that very often, a woman opts for an abortion based on the needs of her existing children. Among the women I've known you have had abortions, this has been one of the determining factors.

Very often, a woman feels that she doesn't have the ability, or strength, to face having a new baby, especially if her children are older. Sometimes, it boils down to economics. How often have we heard, from the shrill right-wingers, that women who must ask for public assistance in order to care for a child, that she should have just kept her legs shut?

The not-so-compassionate conservatives speak one way, and act another. Do not let them make you feel guilt, when you made the right decision for you, and your family. Let them control their own lives, and leave living yours up to you. :hug:
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 03:13 PM
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78. Well written!!
My at the time girl friend and I went through the same heart wrenching decision. She did have the abortion (I did go with her)and then six months later we ended up getting pregnant again and this time knew the time was right and got married. It has been 17 years now, and the brat is a senior in high school.
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 03:21 PM
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79. I completely understand.
I felt guilty for not feeling guilty. It was not something I've ever regretted.
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