Just got an anti-Hillary email from the lone conservative in my family

[AllieB]

:eyes:

One can doubt the truth of all this but what if even ONE were true?
Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many "friends"of the Clintons.

1-James McDougal - Clinton 's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.
5- C. Victor Raiser II - Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992
6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".
7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8-Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June 1994 of a gunshot wound (also ruled a suicide) at the grave site of his fiancee.
13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton 's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16-Paula Grober - Clinton 's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.


I was wondering if any of you know where I can get a 'cut-and-paste-able' version of the snopes response here:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

[Greyskye]

1. What's wrong with just replying with that URL?

That's what I do. If they want to argue with that, they can take it up with Snopes.

[mzteris]

2. why don't you just copy and paste

into your email response?

[rodeodance]

3. just cut past and send the snoops back to him

[MindPilot]

4. Snopes site won't let you copy text.

So you have to do a screen shot. Then print that out. Then scan it. Then run it through some OCR software. Then clean it up. Then paste it into an email.

Aw fuck it just reply with the link.

[bunkerbuster1]

7. you can copy/paste, they just make it difficult--Ctrl+A to select it all.

The Clinton Body Count

Claim: Bill Clinton has been quietly doing away with those who oppose him.

Status: False.

Origins: A new version of a lengthy list of deaths associated with Bill Clinton began circulating on the Internet in August 1998. According to it, there have been close to fifty suspicious deaths of colleagues, advisors and citizens who were about to testify against the Clintons, with the unstated implication that Bill Clinton or his henchmen were behind each untimely demise.

We shouldn't have to tell anyone not to believe this claptrap, but we will anyway. In a frenzied media climate where the Chief Executive couldn't boff a White House intern without the whole world finding out every niggling detail of each encounter and demanding his removal from office, are we seriously to believe the same man had been having double handfuls of detractors and former friends murdered with impunity?

...there ya go.

[bunkerbuster1]

5. Ctrl-A will highlight everything

copy that to the clipboard, then just edit out the stuff you don't want.

(I see they've got that page coded so you can't select the text, at least not in Firefox.)

[AllieB]

6. Anyone have a list of failures of the Bush admin handy?

I'm going to copy the 50 Kool-Aid drinking idiots on her distribution list.

[MindPilot]

9. WaPo ran this just yesterday...

One only one Democrat and his transgressions were largely unrelated to the office...


Convictions of Past Administration Officials
Sentences of some other high-level government officials. Many did not serve their full sentences or had their convictions overturned.

2006: David H. Safavian, chief of staff at the General Services Administration under President Bush. Eighteen months in prison for lying and obstruction of justice related to the investigation of lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

1995: Webb Hubbell, associate attorney general under President Bill Clinton. Twenty-one months in prison and $135,000 fine for bilking legal clients.

1991: Elliott Abrams, assistant secretary of state under President Ronald Reagan. Two years probation and 100 hours of community service for concealing information from Congress.

1990: Rear Adm. John M. Poindexter, national security adviser under Reagan. Six months in prison and $5,200 fine for conspiracy, lying to Congress and obstruction of justice in the Iran-Contra scandal.

1989: Lt. Col. Oliver North, member of the National Security Council staff under Reagan. Two years probation, a $150,000 fine and 1,200 hours of community service for obstruction of a congressional inquiry, illegal gratuities and destruction of government documents in the Iran-Contra scandal.

1988: Michael Deaver, chief of staff for Reagan. Three years probation, a $100,000 fine and 1,500 hours community service for perjury related to his lobbying efforts.

1988: Lynn Nofziger, White House political director under Reagan. Ninety days and a $50,000 fine for violating ethics laws governing lobbying by administration officials.

1975: John Ehrlichman, assistant to President Richard Nixon for domestic affairs. Two to eight-and-a-half years for Watergate-related crimes.

1975: H.R. Haldeman, chief of staff for Nixon. Two to eight-and-a-half years for Watergate-related crimes.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/05/AR2007060500150.html?hpid=topnews

[AllieB]

10. Thanks-this is great.

:hi:

[ingac70]

8. Just send the link...

and say "debunked by Snopes!".

[blm]

11. Bullshit - and some of those are actually kills from BushInc's black ops.

Clinton's worst crime was letting Poppy Bush off the hook for all the outstanding matters and crimes of office during the Reagan and Bush years.

I freak these jerks out because I say Yes, I agree with you that it's all Clinton's fault - It's all Clinton's fault because he should have opened the books on the entire BFEE operation when he had the opportunity and access to do so. And include this link. Everything evil stems from the Bush family and their fascist allies.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

My book, Secrecy & Privilege, opens with a scene in spring 1994 when a guest at a White House social event asks Bill Clinton why his administration didn’t pursue unresolved scandals from the Reagan-Bush era, such as the Iraqgate secret support for Saddam Hussein’s government and clandestine arms shipments to Iran.

Clinton responds to the questions from the guest, documentary filmmaker Stuart Sender, by saying, in effect, that those historical questions had to take a back seat to Clinton’s domestic agenda and his desire for greater bipartisanship with the Republicans.

Clinton “didn’t feel that it was a good idea to pursue these investigations because he was going to have to work with these people,” Sender told me in an interview. “He was going to try to work with these guys, compromise, build working relationships.”

Clinton’s relatively low regard for the value of truth and accountability is relevant again today because other centrist Democrats are urging their party to give George W. Bush’s administration a similar pass if the Democrats win one or both houses of Congress.

Reporting about a booklet issued by the Progressive Policy Institute, a think tank of the Democratic Leadership Council, the Washington Post wrote, “these centrist Democrats … warned against calls to launch investigations into past administration decisions if Democrats gain control of the House or Senate in the November elections.”
>>>>>>

[AllieB]

13. These people are just trying to deflect attention away from the scandals

of the Bush admin. Treason, dropping the ball on 9/11, hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq-I can't even list all of them, I'd be here all night.

[Sweet Freedom]

12. And then

please add the e-mail, snopes link and repub counterpiece to our own Debunker so others can use it in the future. :hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=284

[LiberalFighter]

14. Make sure you do a send all so anyone else

that received the email will receive your rebuttal too.

That way anything he sends in the future will have a higher probability of being questioned by the others. Or better yet, he stops sending the crap.