"Faith Politics" on CNN now... Edwards, Obama, Clinton

[MonkeyFunk]

Edwards is on first.

He looks mighty red.

First question: Do you believe homosexuals have a right to be married?

A: No

[BlooInBloo]

1. Excellent time to watch espn.

[More Than A Feeling]

2. Pirates of the Caribbean is on USA.

Good movie, can't wait to see the third one.

[BlooInBloo]

5. Ooohh! I'm there!

EDIT: Aw crap - some movie with Eva Mendes. Waitaminute - woohoo! Some movie with Eva Mendes! :rofl:

[benny05]

3. No it is about Poverty

Edwards, after election, everything he can do, he will do on his campaign as this is the moral agenda

[MonkeyFunk]

6. huh?

I'm watching it. The first question was about gay marriage. The next question was about poverty.

[benny05]

4. This is an issue I talk about everywhere as it is I am a human being

And he will fight with his moral fiber and being

[benny05]

7. Prayer question

Good question how we distinguish what is what we hear and to ask to see the differences.

[benny05]

8. Faith Journey for Edwards

Came back, especially Wade. Prayer played a large role in getting him through, and with EE.

[partylessinOhio]

9. Who in their right mind would get involved with these religious zealot nuts?

This is very upsetting - separate church and state (government).

[benny05]

10. It's upsetting that JRE believes in sep of church and state

which he does

[durrrty libby]

32. Although I loathe religion mixed in politics, I am enjoying this

[Connie_Corleone]

11. These aren't the religious right people.

These are the religious left. They are not zealot nuts.

[More Than A Feeling]

12. These aren't Christianists, and this isn't an official government event.

People should be able to talk about who they are, and if faith is a part of it, so be it. I'd like to know exactly what they believe if they are going to let it influence their policies, so I can take that into consideration. The problem is when only people of certain faiths can expect to have a chance running for office, and people feel pressured to talk about it, and people insert it in inappropriate places.

[NYCGirl]

13. The sponsors, Sojourners, are LIBERAL

http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=home.skip

[LSparkle]

15. THANK YOU1 Jim Wallis is one of my heroes

speaking up for the Religious Left (no, it's NOT an oxymoron).

[NYCGirl]

20. Yes, he's wonderful.

:thumbsup:

[WiseButAngrySara]

22. Wonderful group of people. They have been opposed to B*

from the outset, and are pro-environmentalist and quite progressive.

[Telly Savalas]

48. Sojourner's is for the most part to the left of most of the Democratic Congressional caucus.

[StudentsMustUniteNow]

14. Am I the only one who doesn't really give a shit about these issues?

I guess it's because I'm unemployed and struggling.

[Connie_Corleone]

17. Then don't watch.

[StudentsMustUniteNow]

19. I'm not watching.

[durrrty libby]

36. Aww have a little compassion for the struggling student

[dk2]

43. Why are you here then?

[pinto]

16. I think it's an interesting format, regardless of our varied POV's.

[WiseButAngrySara]

18. Edwards was WONDERFUL! He is definitely my choice so far. ....n/t

[LSparkle]

23. I'm with you ...

Between last night's performance and then this forum, he's showing me why I supported him last time and am leaning toward him this time as well.

[WiseButAngrySara]

25. What he had to say about poverty and Katrina brought genuine tears to

my eyes because I really believe this man. It is so much what we need.

[LSparkle]

33. I find it hard to convince my friends that he's really THAT GOOD ...

I think people who are skeptical of him just can't believe that there is a man who can have done as well as he has who still gives a damn about the poor ...

[WiseButAngrySara]

44. Ah yes. But excellence is rare, and I hope that God continues

to bless him and he wins the election, and our nation and the world will be blessed. People seem more ready to believe utter liars and crooks. I do believe Edwards is that good; THAT GOOD! Jealousy always plays a much bigger component in adult perspectives than we would like to assume with supposedly 'mature' people, but it always seems to be there.

[LSparkle]

21. Oh man, even OBAMA looks ORANGE!

What is with the lighting at this place? Or is it CNN's satellite feed?

[WiseButAngrySara]

24. Bye bye Obama. He supports Israel; so do WE at the tune of 3-4

Million dollars each day since 1949. We supplied thewm with the guns and they supply US politicians with money. Boo on Obama. This debate is beautifully clarifying so far, because I was unsure about Obama, but now I know, and I will not support Hillary no matter what she says.

[Maat]

26. In good conscience, I can only support Dennis Kucinich ..

unless Al Gore gets into the race - then all bets are off (and I'll pray that unite in a ticket).

[WiseButAngrySara]

28. Dear Dennis doesn't have a chance! I agree with him on almost

every issue. But he can't win. Edwards can. Gore can if he runs. If it comes down to any other candidate right now except for Edwards I don't think I'll be casting a vote.

[Maat]

35. I could vote for Kucinich.

I could vote for Gore.

I'm kind of thinking about Edwards and Obama.

If Hillary wins .... I don't know what I'll do. I will try my hardest to vote for her while holding my nose; I'm not sure it will work.

[WiseButAngrySara]

45. So funny. I was impressed with her tonight more than I've ever

been. But I so hope she will not run because she cannot win. And we need to rid the WH of all of these criminals and crooks. I so fear for our country and our constitution and the world if a Democratic candidate doesn't win.

[pinto]

29. You seem to be limiting your focus on our relations with Israel.

As well as implying the State of Israel supplies American politicians with money.

Sen. Obama just got up.

And Sen. Clinton hasn't even come up yet.

Conflating issues doesn't help discussion, imho.

Just my 2 cents. Thanks.

[WiseButAngrySara]

46. I believe that. Directly or indirectly. And I blame Israel in large

part for the current wars going on in ... shall I count them? How many Wars? Israel is a country my brother loves and my sister in law is fervently devoted to, but I can no longer with conscience support any politician that supports Israel as opposed to other nations. Israel is not a US State! She gets what she gets because she is wealthy, and can and does buy power. Surely you have knowledge of AIPAC, JINSA and all of the monied connections between these groups and our politicians?

To quote you: "Conflating issues doesn't help discussion"

Neither does preventing the discussion of important issues! The primary reason I don't donate to DU now is because every time I have voiced dissent over Israel's policy (the last time during the summer war) I am labeled anti-semitic!

[pinto]

50. Neither Israel nor AIPAC 'buys' power, any more than any other

voice knocking on the doors of Congress to have their concerns heard. And that includes groups we could probably both agree work for our interests in the capitol - ACLU, AFL-CIO, Sierra Club, Environmental Defense Fund, Lambda, national associations of teachers, health care workers, etc. etc.

When I said "Conflating issues doesn't help discussion" I meant just that. Framing any number of national concerns in a framework of our relationship with Israel muddies the discussion.

I recognize your point of view, as far as I can read it, that we ought not support Israel. That's all well and good.

To say that Israel holds some kind of undue influence over our government is conflating the issue.

I don't see anyone 'preventing the discussion of important issues'. This is a discussion.

My personal 2 cents. Thanks for your response.


(aside)

Speaking now as a mod, questions of forum procedures are best addressed to one of our Administrators:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/contact.html

[More Than A Feeling]

27. I like what Soledad just said, that the candidates can spend their time anyway they want

[More Than A Feeling]

30. Hey, look at that, the other candidates get some time too!

[THUNDER HANDS]

31. this is fascinating

I didn't catch Edwards, but heard Obama and he went on to answer a question for almost 10 minutes straight. I've never seen that on tv.

Clinton on now, should be interesting.

[More Than A Feeling]

34. She looks tired. Can't blame her.

[durrrty libby]

38. My God, she is awesome, She is so relaxed and forthcoming

[More Than A Feeling]

37. That's a good point that I haven't thought of.

Hillary really doesn't talk about about her faith (until now, that is)

[More Than A Feeling]

39. Rev. Hunter, you aren't going to get common ground. It isn't about reducing abortions

A lot of anti-choicers want to ban birth control too. If it were about reducing abortions, they would support birth control.

[WinkyDink]

40. I know the format is different, but IMO Soledad is 10 X better than Wolf.

[ElizabethDC]

41. I like her relaxed, informal style. n/t

[WiseButAngrySara]

42. Clinton was wonderful too! I was astounded at how eloquent

and compassionate she appears to be; also seemed genuine, but I have never picked up this quality in her before now! And amazingly enough, Soledad was matured quite a bit, no? Or have I just gone bat excrement crazy? I am really impressed by Edwards primarily, but Clinton is not yet out of my picture and I had excluded her prior to this discourse.

[partylessinOhio]

47. This was horrible as it continued with Paula Zonked.

It is none of her damned business if a candidate takes Communion and supports abortion. NONE. What is she going to do take it to the Pope?

Every person's religion is their private and personal business. It doesn't belong as grist for a talk show.

:thumbsdown:

[WiseButAngrySara]

49. I hate that woman. I never listen to her garbage and thank

goodness KO is the alternative here at that hour. She should speak about her own prayers and communion and her beliefs about abortion and her husbands beliefs about these issues if she makes it a topic of debate. But those in the media can scrutinize others at will and believe that their lives should remain unexamined.