Bill Clinton on Obama: Big Fairy Tale

[Amerigo Vespucci]

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[rAVES]

1. Bill wants Sci-fi... back in time to 92! :p

[ultraist]

2. Obama voted to fund the war time and time again

And what Bill Clinton said about Obama saying at one time he would have voted for the war, is true.


People should know the facts. Just sayin...

[Big Blue Marble]

4. Obama never said he would have voted for the war.

He said right before the 04 convention that he did not know what he would have done if he had been in the Senate.
He said that in deference to Kerry/Edwards so as not to embarrass then.

And can you imagine the attacks, if he had not funded the troops on the ground in Iraq. His candidacy would
never have gotten off the ground. Whether you agree with that decision or not, many other democrats choose the same
way including Hillary.

[ashlarah]

8. Edwards voted against giving Bush a blank check

in Iraq when Edwards was in the Senate. He was one of the few votes against the funding. And what Bill said is true - the vote for authorization was limited authorization, which Bush immediately exceeded. Edwards was unhappy about that and said so when he voted against funding.

I guess he just has more backbone than Obama when it comes to fighting for principles.

[oasis]

11. Obama didn't want to embarrass Kerry so he went along. Donnie McClurkin, same story.

Obama's full of it.

[Big Blue Marble]

12. Let's see: Keynote speaker 04 convention criticizes Kerry on war vote.

That would have made a great headline. Don't you think? :sarcasm:

[oasis]

13. Let's see: Man of principle passes up opportunity. In Obama's case

opportunity often trumps principle.

[Big Blue Marble]

14. So you have evidence for that.

He was supporting his party. Have you ever voted for someone whom you disagreed with on some of her/his policies?
I know I have. I do not agree with everything Obama supports or anyone else running either. Nothing you can
say will negate that in 2002, when so many Dems were running for cover by voting with Bush on the war, he took
the principled stand. Unless you candidate is Kucinich, you are not able to say that about your choice.

[oasis]

16. Safe to take a "principled" stand while not in the senate.(eom)

[krkaufman]

32. Agreed. It's also the thing any reasonable person would say ...

... when being asked what they would have done had they been in an entirely different context at some past point in the time-space continuum. You can say what your actual position was at the time, but you cannot assert what you would have done had circumstances been different. Because the circumstances would have been different.

[be inspired]

5. Yes, Bill is right on this.

Obama has done nothing but support the war ever since he got into the Senate. He only stopped voting for funding for it when he came under scrutiny for that earlier this year. He is not being honest when he presents himself as a big anti-war guy. I don't support Hillary. I'm for Edwards. But Bill is right on this.

[saracat]

10. I agree.Bill is absolutely right on this!

[althecat]

24. Bill and Hillary Clinton were instrumental in starting the mess that is now Iraq.

Bill Clinton is right on this? You cannot be serious.

Bill Clinton supervised sanctions against Iraq which killed 100s of thousands of Iraqis. In 1998 he authorised what was really the Second Gulf War. Hillary was there in the White House beside him. The decision was backed by a CIA infiltration of UNSCOM which at that stage was led by Australian Richard Butler who is widely beleived to have allowed the CIA to take over his operation - at least that is what Scott Ritter says.

Bill and Hillary Clinton were instrumental in starting the mess that is now Iraq.

That should really be taken as read.

[ProfessorPlum]

3. Though he is lying through his teeth,

("the reverse is true"? Come on, more like both campaigns are equally bad, or some other more believable lie, big dog) isn't it amazing how convincing he is when he speaks? Even when you know he is lying to you. Quite a gift.

[ashlarah]

6. He isn't lying - he is telling the truth as he sees it

And I agree that Obama has gotten a pass by corporate media. So has Hillary. Corporate media has all along done whatever necessary to promote their preferred story - a race between the first woman and the first African American. Like Bill says, they haven't touched Obama's inconsistency on his great judgment issue on Iraq. He has thrown away opportunity after opportunity to lead on ending the war there but has instead gone along with the status quo. This is what we can expect if Obama reaches the White House. Which is also what we can expect if Hillary reaches the White House.

Edwards is the only candidate with a chance to make an actual difference for the American people (unless you count the incremental window dressing changes the status quo allows). That Edwards has made no attempt to pretend otherwise is why corporate media has done everything they can to stifle his campaign.

[indimuse]

21. obama has been running an underground slime campaign from the begginning

try to tell me I'm wrong! I have proof!

[peaches2003]

7. Disgusted with Bill Clinton

For the first time I am disgusted I voted for him- twice. He is making a complete ass of himself. We don't owe Hillary anything, but you would think we are obligated to support her. Someone was saying on tv this morning Obama won't know what happened him when the Clinton machine hits him. I am so sick of politicians. :puke:

[Laurab]

26. I am, too - and I've always liked him.

He is a former president, who should not be saying the things he is saying. I think he's showing a terrible lack of class. Not to mention that I don't think it will help Hillary's campaign.

I liked and excused Bill even when he hooked up with GHWB, thinking it was for a greater good, but I cannot excuse a former president lying and misrepresenting a candidates record, even IF he thinks his wife should have been coronated. She needs to earn it, just like any other candidate, and Bill IS making an ass out of himself.

[RazBerryBeret]

27. Crap....

I voted for this man twice also....and I am disappointed. SICK to death of the "Clinton Machine" SICK to death of the Bush Crime Family....How do we get out of this cycle? ..."Jane, stop this thing....Jane..."

[peaches2003]

28. The Establishment always wins?

No matter what you think of him, Chris Matthews said yesterday that the sad thing is that the Establishment always wins and the Clintons are the Establishment in the Democratic Party. The Estab. never willingly gives up power even if it is for the good of the country and the good of the Party. They will circle the wagons to protect each other and Obama doesn't have a chance, at least a very slim chance. Nothing ever changes nor will it. I believe that now looking at the election results tonight.

[RazBerryBeret]

29. I am afraid

you are correct.

[zazzle]

9. for 2 years, Obama voted to fund a war he "opposed"

and only stopped voting to fund it AFTER he became a presidential candidate.

Obama - high on hype, low on substance!

Go Edwards!

[polichick]

15. Not one of his finest moments. nt

[DianaForRussFeingold]

17. "while Obama is a powerful and charismatic speaker, people will soon start asking "Where's the beef?

--and the candidate with the beef is John Edwards . . ." , OneBlueSky -One of my favs. K&R

You know, We can hope for change, all we want, but sometimes, HOPE is not enough!

Bill Clinton's right it's a "big fairy tale"
Obama's just another pushover for big Corporations, as they have contributed heavily, to his candidacy...


If Edwards is the next President of the United States.
He will take on these out of control Corporations,
as did FDR.
No other candidate can, or will...

The corporate media is aiming against Edwards, who threatens their strangle hold--
MSM's obvious agenda -- marginalize Edwards and his message...

At least Bill Clinton, is being allowed to get his message out! :grouphug:

"John Edwards has a sincere deep passion for his support of the middle class, like no other"
John Edwards - Manchester, N.H. Town Hall; This is video of the complete event from Sunday, January 6, 2008: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YN0z7DCxoM

[earth mom]

18. ROFL! Looks like Obama was caught lying.

Guess Obama's not so perfect after all.

:rofl:

[indimuse]

19. what web site statement did Obama take off ??

???????????????

[althecat]

20. Fascinating... he is really really riled. The Big Dawg is surprised and nervous...

[althecat]

23. This is so bizarrooo...... the argument appears to be vote Hillary because she is anti-war?

Or at least more anti-war than Obama.

[Lautremont]

22. Is this bizarroland? Did he just call Obama a "big fairy?"

That's not gonna win Bill any points with anyone left of Freeperville.

[shayes51]

25. By god, he better show some passion in defending her!

Hillary's grace and dignity after the Monica thing saved his presidency and his legacy. He owes her big time!

[McCamy Taylor]

30. I wish Bill Clinton was running again!

[Triana]

31. Obama: disengenuous?

I have more respect for Edwards who voted for the IWR then later apologized and said he was wrong, than someone who tries to pull a Jekyll/Hyde on the issue like Obama apparently did.

Shame. If this is true. It's disappointing. And if it is true, then I'm left wondering how much of the rest of his dreamy talk is a fairytale too.