TDPS: Mormon leaves angry voicemail defending unethical Glenn Beck infomercial for food storage

[celtics23]

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Let's go to voicemails. I've gotten a number of different voicemails over the last couple of days. The one I want to get to first relates to I did a critique, I want to say last week, about Glenn Beck's show turning into an infomercial. He's saying he's getting his whole family food storage. He's not disclosing that he has a food storage sponsor, and he's also not disclosing that his religion indicates he should be storing food, OK, that was my critique. Here's the voicemail we got, somebody, very unhappy, Louis, with what I had to say about that.

Caller: Hello, David and Louis. I'm just calling about your food storage, Glenn Beck, and Mormonism. Mormon food storage actually makes pretty good sense when you consider our food supply is based on the just-in-time manufacturing model rather than food security. Do you really trust agribusiness and the U.S. government to keep the supermarkets eternally stocked? Do you think if the trucks from the Midwest and California stop bringing food to your Northampton, Massachusetts stores there, you think the local hobby farms around western Mass are going to keep you fed? Good luck with that!

I am a Mormon, I have a small farm. I have a basement full of canned Mormon food that I got from the bishop's storehouse over in Worcester, Massachusetts, which, incidentally, is open to the public. But I know that you and Louis are smarter than us paranoid right-wing types. The supermarkets will always burst with abundance and the government will always be confident and helpful so long as well-funded liberals are in charge, right? Anyway, I hope you play this on the air, and you know, maybe sometime you'll realize that not all the smart people in the world is liberal. Are liberal, excuse me. Bye.

David: All right. So number one, we played it on the air. Number two, it sounds like he's working off of a script. It doesn't matter, I don't care. Script your voicemails to us, go off the cuff, doesn't make a difference. Now, number one, I don't even know where to start with this. First of all, my criticism...

Louis: Was not of food storage itself.

David: Was not of food storage itself.

Louis: That's fine.

David: Now, do I believe that people should be storing a year's worth of food? No, I don't believe that personally. Do I put all of my faith into agribusiness? No, I don't. But that was not my criticism. My criticism was, number one, there was no disclosure that Glenn Beck was doing another one of these hinting at buying from his sponsors without saying that, he was using scare tactics. He wasn't just saying it's common sense that you should have a year's worth of food, he was scaring people with his apocalyptic type of rhetoric about this. He did not say it was a sponsor, as I mentioned. He also didn't say that this was also in part driven by the fact that he's a Mormon, and that's what he is told to do as a Mormon. It's lack of disclosure on all fronts.

Now, if, personally, if someone is telling me something based on a religious text that they have been told to believe in, I want to know that, right? There's a huge difference to me between someone arguing for food storage who actually has evidence of an incoming astronomical, you know, some kind of comet or something like that, and who is a scientist, versus somebody who stands to gain money from people buying food storage and is telling me because he's a Mormon. That's just me. Now, maybe it's different with you, Louis. I don't know. To me, I would be concerned about lack of disclosure there. That is my criticism.

You want to store food from Worcester, Mormon cans of food in your basement for a year, do it. This has nothing to do whether-- about whether I trust the agribusiness system, this has to do with the fact that Glenn Beck is not telling people that he is making money off of this and this is his religion. People should know that. I already know not all the smartest people are liberals, that's for sure, and by the way, there's tons of ex-Mormons that actually talk about how absurd a year worth-- a year's food storage is, so it is not without question. I just did not even address it myself. That wasn't my issue.

Some general emails. Eric writes, "You have got to be one of the most twisted individuals I have ever heard. You should really look into history and see what is real and what is contrived. I feel sorry for you." It sounds like a valid criticism, I just have no idea what Eric's talking about.

Another email: "No offense, but Louis is gaining a bit of weight. I see a bit of fluff." Is that true, Louis? Are you putting weight on?

Louis: News to me. I think it's my hair, maybe, it's getting kind of out of control.

David: And makes you appear to be a few pounds heavier?

Louis: Could be.

David: An email from Brittany about abortion. "I do like some of your points on the show, but get real. Abortion kills a baby. Life begins at contraception." Life begins at contraception.

Louis: Conception.

David: I think that's probably what she meant. Of course, kind of making-- kind of throws the whole email in the trash when you say life begins at contraception. "I know this happened a while back, but I had to address your video. Yes, Scott Roeder was wrong to kill Tiller, but Tiller killed, too." She also, I hate it when people do this, she included links that I didn't click on which I assume are to graphic abortion videos. OK, well, you know, life begins at contraception. Let me know how that works for you.

On medical questions: "You know, I like you both, but there's something wrong with people writing you emails asking for medical advice. That said, I enjoyed your answers." We'll see if we continue answering people's medical and relationship questions.

Louis: Maybe like once every few months we'll do that.

David: I was thinking every couple of weeks or something like that. On the topic of is Fox News making people stupid, Rick Barr says, "My mother is stuck on Fox. I can't believe she's my mother. It's like I don't know her. She thinks the talking points are valid, she can't see past them. It gives her focus. She knows nothing of the world past her circle. Strange stuff." That is strange, and it's very sad.

And then another email: "Watch Fox and Friends in the morning. They talk at you like you're a preschooler. Watch O'Reilly's show; he routinely defines vocab words which anyone with a grade school education would know. You're not asked to think, you're being appealed to at the lowest common denominator." See you on Monday.

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Transcript provided by Alex Wickersham. For transcription, translation, captions, and subtitles, contact Alex at [email protected].

[qcmadman1]

1. It's remarkable how conservatives really ARE more afraid of the world doing back things to them

[tins0404]

2. Not only that

but the idea that liberals just don't take anything seriously.

[Independem]

22. Preaching Fear for Prophet

Food Insurance web site links a company called RUMOR, how Ironic?

RUMOR is a full service advertising agency based in Salt Lake City. Services include broadcast and print advertising and production, corporate identity, brand strategy, packaging, web design (with full database integration), as well as the whole gamut of graphic design services. It’s advertising and design with word-of-mouth appeal.

http://www.rumorhosting.com/blog/

Advertising agency out of Salt Lake City, the Mormons home town, get food insurance with the name RUMOR, fitting for Glenn Beck and Fox News Corp.

http://www.foodinsurance.com/

P.S. Wackier then Waco The Survival Retreat Preaching Fear for Prophet

http://thesurvivalretreat.blogspot.com/2010/01/welcome-to-new-sponsor-food.html

[siligut]

29. How convenient

"I am a Mormon, I have a small farm. I have a basement full of canned Mormon food that I got from the bishop's storehouse over in Worcester, Massachusetts, which, incidentally, is open to the public." (emphasis mine) Oh right, the bishop certainly has the best canned food for storage, it probably wears magic underwear and its patriarchal blessing has given it a bright future in the form of a long shelf life.

But don't you dare doubt it, for fear of losing friends, family, job and any profitable collusion you may have become involved in.

[Hawkeye-X]

3. THANK YOU FOR THE TRANSCRIPTION!! (at title it - Transcription Available)

If someone could at least use the transcription to caption their videos it'd be cool to read.

[snagglepuss]

5. +1

[enough]

7. +2 (nt)

[Capitalocracy]

10. If you click on the arrow on the right under the video

there's a CC option where you can see the transcript automatically timed by YouTube to match up with the video.

And I'm glad you like the transcript, I'm the guy that does it. :fistbump:

[Hawkeye-X]

11. Yeah, I figured you would be

:hi:

[Hawkeye-X]

12. But not on this one

But looking forward to future transcriptions (make sure it's titled CC on DU threads)

[Capitalocracy]

13. Oh, you're right

He probably just hasn't uploaded it yet.

[Capitalocracy]

16. Actually, the captions are working if you view it on YouTube.

Must be a YouTube embedding issue.

[Tikki]

4. I wonder, could beck's soggies just be a way to chip

away at fundies as to wear down their resistance to mormonism
and help romney in the next election? Is he all about romney, mormonism or just himself?

Tikki
PS..I have never listened to beck so I really don't know, just what I read here.

[Capitalocracy]

9. I think he's trying to spread some Mormon ideas

and then maybe people will either, like you said, be more accepting or more willing to convert when they discover they're already living like Mormons or share their ideology. His version of American exceptionalism, though he doesn't mention it in Mormon terms, fits right in with the Mormon ideology that the U.S. is some sort of promised land. If you read up on it and then listen to his Restoring Honor address, you'll see the similarities.

[gtar100]

23. Maybe he's just trying to get into the temple and be one of the 'special' people.

Because he wants in on the big secret.

And wear all white and not feel out of place.

[chervilant]

18. hmm...

My ex has proclaimed his support of Romney, declaring him the best candidate to beat Obama. I know my ex is not a Mormon. Wonder why he's got a hard-on for Mitt...

[Willinois]

6. Beck will never admit the most plausible threat to food supplies: climate change.

I suspect many people won't realize how serious the problem is until climate change begins to cause major disruptions in the planting, growing, and harvesting seasons more severely than it already is.

[Mojorabbit]

15. and peak oil

If it is true we peaked in 06 then oil will continue to get more and more expensive and shipping those Strawberries from overseas will cease. I have saved money as things I bought a couple of years ago and stored are much more expensive now. I don't drive so I keep a pretty well stocked pantry to cook out of.
I think it is prudent to have a reserve of food in the house but I don't like people playing on fears of an impending apocalypse.

[AlbertCat]

8. Liberals know it all and life begins at contraception.

So... life begins at "conception"?... what about the gametes? Aren't they alive?

(the e-mailer doesn't know what a gamete is)

[MadMaddie]

14. Sometimes when you read and hear stuff like this it leaves

you speechless.

You are probably right the caller doesn't know what a gamete is but I think the worst part is that the caller would never pull up a dicitonary on-line or get a dictionary to find out what it is. There is no curiosity from these people and that is a very bad thing for communities.

[jwirr]

17. Actually wasn't beck joking about it as a liberal idea to survive the

mess? As to storing foods I and my family who are NOT mormons do store food - we have never gotten up to the years worth of supplies that they recommend but we can and store what we grow. We should not throw the baby (food storage) out with the bathwater (beck & his mormons). The very least you gain from storing is to save money when the prices go up.

[trud]

19. I store food.

Partly that's from growing up in New England, so there's the problem of being snowed in. Plus, you save if you buy in bulk. I grow more and more of my own food and next year I learn to can. More and more the survivalist stuff that seemed crazy decades ago makes more sense to me. Our economy is in such ruins and with global warming perhaps past the point of no return, I have no idea what's going to happen.

I have a well stocked emergency kit also from years of living in earthquake country. Batteries, candles, solar powered radio and cell phone recharger.

[trud]

20. culture clash

This actually reminds me of a story I heard about a New England woman married to a French guy. She was storing away food three months in advance, and he wanted to go out and buy food fresh every day...

[JHB]

21. So the guy doesn't trust agribusiness, but is against liberals...

...i.e., the only people who seem inclined to reign in corporations?

[mwb970]

26. It's almost as if he didn't think through what he was going to say.

:eyes:

[delightfulstar]

24. I take the "common sense" approach...

If it's as cheap as I've seen it, or even if it's a good sale, I buy extra. This is especially true if it's a staple (flour, sugar, rice, dry pasta, dry beans, dry herbs/spices, cereal, certain canned items), or if it can be frozen easily (bread, meat, butter). I'm going to be planting my own garden this year, too, because 1) we have a very long season to do that here in AZ, and 2) we tend to use more fresh food and veggies and herbs. This all enables me to save a little money, and be able to do more eco-friendly things like reclaiming rainwater (yes, it does rain here) and composting, which reduces my carbon footprint ever-so-slightly. Every little bit helps.

[Enthusiast]

25. Great stuff! nt

[bongbong]

27. repig "logic"

The scared pants-pissers should be stocking a year's worth of gasoline.
They should be stocking a year's worth of fresh water.
What about air? What if those dastardly evil Muslims poison it? Where is their year's supply of air?

These obvious contraindications to their "logic" are a sign of their psychopathy. If the repig traitors didn't have the vote and thus the power to achieve their goal of destroying America, we could laugh at them. But unfortunately that is not the case.

[JHB]

28. How much space does a year's supply of food take up, anyhow...

..., per person, especially if you're shooting for an andequate level of nutrition, and not simply staving off starvation for an entire year?

I'm sure a basement on a small farm has the kind of room you'd need for that, but for many other places (apartment? trailer? small house?) the needed space simply isn't there.