Hostile Teabaggers attack me as I ask questions at Glenn Beck Rally

[ThirdChoice]

Run time: 09:58 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g3V2DD4_wA   Posted on YouTube: August 29, 2010 By YouTube Member: VRAdmin Views on YouTube: 1   Posted on DU: August 29, 2010 By DU Member: ThirdChoice Views on DU: 5947

 
Part 2 tomorrow.

[ThirdChoice]

1. By the way...

...the African-American gentleman I talked to was one of maybe 10 African-Americans I saw there. They were rare as hens teeth. I came away with the impression it is some kind of nonspiritual "christian" thing going on. No talk or signs about feeding the hungry, or housing the homeless. No compassion, just anger and hostility.

[Tx4obama]

3. I would like to see MORE video. I hope there's more. ;) n/t

[ThirdChoice]

14. I am posting #2 right now....

... :)

[kevinbgoode]

4. Of course not. . .

It was about "restoring honor" which, to conservatives, means only THEY receive government benefits because. . .well, they are REAL Americans.
So there wasn't gonna be no collection for the unemployed, cuz all those conservatives will tell ya the only reason we have unemployed is not because there was a loss of jobs, or that corporations increased profits by cutting employees, it's because those unemployed are lazy. Just like the poor.

No housing of the homeless or feeding the hungry. Only a charity to help the families of fallen troops - well, except the gay ones, cuz they aren't recognized as having any legal families. Ole Alreda King made sure to remind the audience about them boo-gay-men threatenin' marriage.

[MrMickeysMom]

2. Yeah, they don't wanna answer questions, cause it's peaceful...

More evidence of the clueless being led by a megalomaniac from the "Morning Zoo" crew!

More evidence of the same stupid people who are, with the exception of the other dumb guy, white.

[tomm2thumbs]

5. hahah 'we don't want to talk about what we believe in...cuz if you heard it, you'd know we be nuts!'

that's why these tea baggers are so scared to talk - they know they got nothing of substance to say except parroting FoxNews talking points

sad, really.

actually 'pathetic' is more appropriate a word

[DemocraticPilgrim]

6. I don't get where their rage comes from noone on our side ever did anything to them we have an issue

with the GOP that's all. I couldn't imgine being that angry to someone I never knew, they're so bizarre.

[Norrin Radd]

9. They are angry at their own stupidity.

"AHHHHHH! I don't understand all the colors and sounds! Help meeeeeeee! Grrrrrrr!"

[Lasher]

11. They're upset about the failure of the GWB presidency.

Out of party loyalty they wouldn't say so while Junior was still in office. Now they're taking it out on Democrats in general and Obama specifically. And what they want is a return to the exact same party control and the exact same policies that led to their anger in the first place. I'm serious, these people are just that nutty.

Ask these independent grassroots free thinkers what they would do differently from what Junior did when he was in office. Their tiny little minds shut down and they don't know what to say.

[NJCher]

42. "I don't want to talk to people like you"

And other types of comments in this vein are how they evade answering questions.

The woman in the purple with the black hat couldn't look the questioner in the face when he asked if the democratic process had been followed. She answered yes but she couldn't look at him.


Cher

[AlbertCat]

47. I don't get where their rage comes from

That's easy. There's a black man in the White House.


It's not about the color the house is painted.

[Swagman]

7. the tension and aggression seems just below the surface

[ThirdChoice]

15. Yep..

most men stood their with arms crossed, frowning in an aggressive stance. They are mad that we organized and took power. Love it!! :)

[democracy1st]

8. thanks for the videos keep up the good work

[Swagman]

10. yeh.. good video..waiting for part 2 !!

[BootinUp]

12. Thanks for bringing the story.

If an angry person confronts you on Day 2, try asking them why they are angry.

[ThirdChoice]

21. Thanks

No Day 2, but the next Teabag rally I will ask that.

[PerpetuallyDazed]

13. Did you ever get a straight answer as to WHAT the Teabaggers were hoping to restore? n/t

[ThirdChoice]

16. Nope..

Nobody had answers, because nothing is wrong. They are just a bunch of spoiled brats that have been sucking off the teat of Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment, etc,...and know they have to share it with "those people".

[Skelly]

24. Perhaps their anger

is just misguided. I actually understand many of their concerns and where the anger comes from. I felt it too during 8years of Bush. Maybe it was just cognitive dissonance that didn't allow them to voice it then. This is why I voted for Obama. I believed in the change. Unfortunately, I am not seeing much of it. Some things still really concern me, but, being the optimist, I am holding out hope still. However, I understand the feeling expressed by the elderly gentleman of the people taking back the government. I do not believe we have it, even with Obama as President. When those we elect to represent us become pawns of lobbyists and industry, we have lost our voice. I am all for religion out of government, but I really don't think replacing "One nation, under God.." with "One nation, under corporations..." is better. Unfortunately, that is how I see it going.

[freedom fighter jh]

17. The man who questioned the legitimacy of Obama's election had a point.

When citizens are not allowed to witness the counting, as is the case in the U.S. now with electronic voting, there is no assurance that the person who gets sworn in is really the one who got the most votes. This is as true when our candidates win as it is when they lose.

I voted for Obama and I'm real glad he's prez, But there is no real accountability in elections these days.

We need an accountable voting system. Hand-marked paper ballots can work.

[ThirdChoice]

18. In DC

We can vote by electronic voting machine OR we can use a paper optical scanned ballot. I can start voting tomorrow, and all the way up until election day early if I want to. We can also register on voting day. We can vote absentee with no reason that has to be given. We need to expand voting rights, and modernize it. Instead of 54 hodge pode elections, we need one centrally controlled federal database with full transparency overseen by people from Universities, clergy, community leaders, etc.


But trust me, there are many ways to influence elections. For instance more voting machines in wealthy districts, keeping voting day to one day and on a Tuesday, the Electoral College, etc. Democracy is messy and not 100% perfect, but it's pretty dang good overall.

[freedom fighter jh]

26. "Pretty dang good"?

How can you know that?

I do agree with you that there are lots of way to influence voting besides electronic machines. But electronic voting machines alone are enough to undermine all trust in the system, because citizens have no way to verify the results. I believe it was these machines that were responsible for Bush's victory in 2004. Who knows how many other elections they have determined?

[ThirdChoice]

44. How come banks can verify electronic ATMs?

The whole banking system is electronic, yet the banks don't collapse. We can have a safe and verifiable voting systems. In DC we have a receipt we see through a window that we can look at to see if it is correctly recording our vote, and then when we finish it rolls up into the machine for recounts if needed. Elections were rigged for decades with paper ballots.

[Go2Peace]

36. Absentee ballots are not always counted. They are not a good alternative

Their seems to be a lot of confusion about absentee ballots, many recounts ignore them, and in close contests the absentee ballots have been contested successfully.

[TalkingDog]

34. Step 3: ????

Ummm....one question. If you mark the ballot by hand...or even write it out and they put it in a box, whose to say that box doesn't end up in the dump?

I'm not for electronic voting, but rather I think having representatives from each party present throughout the process to make sure the process is fair and equitable might work to ensure an honest election.

It's not the method, it's the accountability of the process.

[ThirdChoice]

45. I agree totally.

You can rig elections whether we use pottery shards in a vase, paper ballots, or electronic voting machines. We just need more people to pay attention, more money and resources, and massive amounts of sunlight, the best disinfectant.

[rainlillie]

41. Actually he would only have a valid point, if he raised those

same questions during the 2000 election. You and I both know he didn't. So it's pretty much, the same old, I don't like that a African American man is sitting in the White House.

[AlbertCat]

48. there is no assurance that the person who gets sworn in is really the one who got the most votes.

That may be true re Bush. but not Obama. I mean, his margin was huge! not the measly, easily manipulated tiny leads Bush "had"....or not.

[theFrankFactor]

19. Great Work!

[iamthebandfanman]

20. 'im here to see glenn becks thing, and also i have this flag.'

best response ever to 'why did you come here today'

[still_one]

22. amazing work /nt

[Joanne98]

23. Beck is trying to unite the neo-cons, the fundies and the libertarians.

It's all about UNITING! But it looks like the fundies and the neo-cons are taking over.

[ThirdChoice]

25. Plus...

many crazies are attaching their wagon to the Teabaggers, including the Lyndon Larouchers, etc, so their message is muddled and their direction fuzzy...which does not bode well for movements. Good crack for Cable TV News, but it will fade out soon I hope.

[Turborama]

27. K&R Good job! Looking forward to watching part 2.

Thanks for going out there to do this and sharing it here.

[Sparkly]

28. Oh my GOD!!!

Do they KNOW that they don't KNOW anything?

Do they have a CLUE that they have no CLUE?

Are they AWARE that they're totally UNAWARE?

Can they hear themselves saying NOTHING?!?

Laughable and frightening at the same time. The elevation of IGNORANCE to a "movement." Holy cow. :wow:

[justdumbluck]

31. No They Don't And No They Can't

This reminds me of what I once heard a man say, when it was being pointed out that there seemed to be a contradiction in his behavior and his beliefs. He basically, well, not basically, but pretty directly replied that he could act any way he wanted, and at the end of the day, or his life, whichever came first, all he had to do was proclaim Christ as his savior, and he would have to be let into heaven.

I wonder if this isn't a phenom similar to the people that are attracted to biker gangs and the like. They aren't the tough guys most people think they are. They really are pretty sensitive, maybe not timid, but find the world an intimidating place, and go into the gang out of a want for security. The folks attracted to the religious right, at least in my experience, with some notable exceptions, don't really seem like very nice people. They tend to be arrogant, insensitive, and prone to anger, and so they feel that adhering to what is pretty much an almost communal religion at its core somehow makes up for that. But the anger remains, and is easily fanned.

Or I perhaps have no clue at all, and hope they all go choke on their own bile. Hopefully not taking the rest of us with them.

[Sparkly]

33. I agree, and welcome to DU!! :)

I've always thought it stems from fear -- the anger, hatred, selfishness, etc... ALL boil down to fear. If someone else (someone "different") is helped or empowered, they think it takes something away from them. And they feel so fragile, they're scared their "way of life" is threatened.

To some extent, it is. Their old "way of life" including discrimination, for example -- on race, gender, religion, sexual orientation... They could harass women in the workplace without reprimand, use extremely offensive slurs, and still enjoy the jello salad at the church picnic.

Remember how angry Ann Coulter was that she felt stifled from attacking the 9/11 widows? The very fact that people found it offensive, she claimed, limited her freedom of speech! Victims, by being victims, can't be attacked, she whined.

You bring up another good point about the religious right just plain not being good people. They reflect their vision of Jesus, don't they? Or, they've made a Jesus in their own image, really. A punitive, narrow-minded, warmongering, nasty Jesus, often depicted in their image as well (white, even blue-eyed!).

Anyway, welcome to DU! :hi:

[justdumbluck]

43. thanks for the welcome

Yeah, fear is powerful. I wonder if the real depth to the fear comes not from the issues they talk about...ok, there aren't many outside of 'get the government out of my life', but the fact that the man in the white house is a black man, and they REALLY DON'T LIKE THAT.

What galls me about the whole thing though, is the attention being paid to this whole nonsense. I mean, he said nothing, other than to make some platitudes about getting back to God. So what? You'd think he'd announced his own deification(it's coming, I can feel it), or the second coming of Christ. I could not escape the commentary this weekend about the stupid Beck rally. Sort of like the non-policy speech of Boehner(sp?) last week. Even David Brooks had no more comment on that than to say, 'Yup, he said nothing...'.

Does the media call anything on anyone anymore?

And no, the irony of this post is not lost on me. :hi:

[DFW]

29. It was a Sgt. Schultz rally!

I no nosssssing, nnnnnosssssssssing!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LiberalLovinLug]

30. Leave that poor old man alone!

You're confusing him with so-called "questions" and "facts", ya big bully!

[ThirdChoice]

37. Hahahahahahahaha

ROFL!!!!!!!

[xloadiex]

32. What I find unbelievable

is people who call themselves democrats, can watch these videos, and just because they don't like what Obama has done up until now, will sit home on election day. This is what we will be stuck with if people do not go out and vote. It scares me.

[ThirdChoice]

40. That is EXACTLY

why I made this video! Come on people..let's get out the vote!! Or the Sharon Angles and the Rand Pauls will be voted in by these Teabaggers and you think George W. Bush was bad.....

[AsahinaKimi]

35. This kinda reminded me of..

Suppose you interviewed fans of the losers of the Super Bowl. Some don't want to talk, others want to tell you how the referee blew a call, or how the other team's management paid lots of money for a extremely good player, or whatever...

They are pissed off their team didn't win. They have to live with being "losers" for an entire year until the next Super Bowl. People like that are often not interviewed by the main stream press after the big game for a reason.

Same for Teabaggers, They lost, our side won.. They will have to just "Get over it", sort of like what they told us to do, when George Bush got elected (selected) twice.
This is one of the reasons why they are walking around grumbling to themselves.

[Hamlette]

38. were any of them receptive, informed, polite?

I guess since some of the questions challenged them, they got defensive.

They should all be asked those questions everyday, I'm not saying this to be critical.

I'm just wondering if any of them had anything to say.

If I were at say an Obama rally and some conservative came up to me, I'd try to answer the questions. I suppose I'd have a breaking point when I'd say "look, you're just pulling my chain and I came here for other reasons" but I'd at least try to engage in conversation.

Anyone like that?

[ThirdChoice]

39. A few were....

I found if you acted polite and very non-confrontational...they were polite. But they have this massive deep seated total mistrust of "the press"...except of course one Channel. Can you guess which one?

[NJCher]

46. you have an art for asking questions

Without making people defensive. I think it is because you sincerely want to know what the teabaggers/Glenn Beck fans think.

I'm a communications prof and I just want to say that in my opinion, you did an excellent job with these interviews.

Also, for me, this clip somewhat satisfied my curiosity about what's going on in their heads. I think the other posters up thread have some good points, especially about the generalized anger.

I look forward to the second clip.


Cher

[AlbertCat]

49. How many ended up coming to this circus?

Doesn't look like the throngs they were expecting.

[ThirdChoice]

51. The most credible report I think of the crowd size was 35,000 to 50,000

Bachman of course is saying over a million. Beck says 100,000. Also, I am a DC resident, and thousands of tourists were wandering through visiting all the monuments..it is the height of our tourist season right now.

[Stellar]

50. Loved the video!

waiting for part two.