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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 02:46 PM
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Howard Dean zu Gast in Graz
 
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Posted on YouTube: June 12, 2010
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Posted on DU: June 13, 2010
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Excellent interview. Very outspoken.

Couple of points:

Says nearly all institutions tend to be conservative with a small c. They don't want change or new direction.

Says he like to stir up institutions to try and find ways to change from inside that institution.

Young people demand change at once. His job as an older person is to figure out how much change is possible before people begin to leave. And he says sometimes they do have to leave. Says if you have a choice try to renew from inside the party. If used too often will destroy the party.

Everyone has lines they can't cross. If your party crosses that line you don't have to be with them. If you are public about it, maybe the party will think about what they are doing and do something different.

Says use the pivot to take the public conversation where you want it to go. When asked about abortion or rights of gays to marry for examples, turn the conversation back to jobs. Quit letting the right control the message. Ssys we always do this on the left. Answer the question they "should" have asked you, not the one they did ask.

Reiterates quit letting them set the agenda, and quit responding to them.


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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 02:54 PM
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1. I love Howie!! K&R
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oldhippydude Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 04:41 PM
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7. newbie
i am sorry I am brand new here!! what the hell does k&r mean..thanks!!!
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 05:14 PM
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10. Kick with a comment; Recommend by hitting the Recommend tab.
Edited on Sun Jun-13-10 05:42 PM by ooglymoogly
welcome aboard. Five Recs and an op (original post) goes to the front page of DU. NT means no text, EOM means end of message. KR, NT or EOM means kick and recommend, no text, or end of message, so folks don't have to bother clicking on it to see the message or text.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 05:40 PM
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13. Hey, welcome, man. Here, roll a blunt & throw on some Dead. You're at home.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 05:48 PM
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14. Welcome to DU.
Lots of us old dude and dudette types here...some hippie some not so much.

:hi:
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 03:01 PM
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2. Yay, Dr Dean!!!!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 03:36 PM
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3. Count me as a Deanocrat. nt
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 03:45 PM
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4. +1
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 04:14 PM
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5. K&R.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 04:27 PM
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6. "Sorry to get so excited." Dayum, sparkie.
"You don't have to answer the question!"

I just love Howard Dean when he gets excited. :applause: :woohoo: :applause:

He should write a book.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 04:45 PM
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8. Howard Dean is wrong about people needing to push the politicians.
We choose people we want to lead us. We expect them to have ideas. We respond to those ideas. This whole thing about politicians following the voters is nonsense. Never worked that way. Never will.

Dean is falling for the excuses the Obama is making for failing to accomplish the change that he promised.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 05:23 PM
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11. Your post might be less pompous and more cogent if, in fact, we were truly allowed
Edited on Sun Jun-13-10 05:27 PM by ooglymoogly
to choose the people we want in high places in government. Corp world manages the corporate press, the corporate press manages the message or propaganda and decides who will be the final candidates and E vote does the rest.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 01:02 AM
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17. You have a point. But the corp world manipulates the public (that's us)
into choosing the candidates they want. Look at Obama. He is not at all the candidate I wanted in the first place. I worked for him and voted for him, and I am very unhappy with him. You can see from my avatar that I am a Roosevelt Democrat. Obama is a Reagan Democrat. Ughh.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 09:11 AM
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19. Ditto on that....I think the FDR's should be proclaimed gods.
They did more good for more people than all the following presidents combined....maybe and perhaps LBJ gets a hat tip for carrying out JFK's "in the works" policy on civil rights. JFK never got a chance to shine as potus before he was snuffed by the shadows.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:16 AM
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24. I suppose there is some corruption around every president, but
Lyndon Johnson had more than his share of it. FDR probably had less than the average president.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 05:10 PM
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9. Howard has always been No. 1.
And I hope he is thinking about the primaries. Bush lite is wearing down to the rim.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 05:34 PM
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12. KR nt
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 06:44 PM
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15. Theres the Doctor I fell in love with. n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 10:04 PM
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16. He tries hard to urge change, but tries not to hurt the party.
Walking a fine line.
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spicegal Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:18 AM
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18. Go Howard!!
Love that guy, love his passion and honest.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 09:25 AM
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20. I appreciate what he is saying, but the motivations behind the DLC
are clear, imo, they have had no problem with NAFTA, no problem with deregulating the banks, and no problem trying to bust
unions. Some of their efforts are not as blatant and sinister as the Republicans, but in the end those policies hurt most Americans.


I like Dean a great deal, but I honestly don't know what can likely change without the inclusion of public funded elections.

Does anyone else here wonder if Obama can reproduce the spirit of the 2008 election cycle?


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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 09:40 AM
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21. Yes, he can
But he probably won't.

Replace Rahm with Howard, and THEN yes, he can!

But, again, he probably won't.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 09:42 AM
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22. Delete for duplicate post
Edited on Mon Jun-14-10 09:45 AM by DFW
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 09:44 AM
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23. Once again, Howard is doing exactly what he told me he'd be doing

Namely: "raising hell for causes I believe in."

No wonder he's not in government. Whoever heard of a politician doing EXACTLY what he says?

Well, maybe Alan Grayson, who, not coincidentally, is also a friend of Howard's.
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