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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:16 PM
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Rachel Maddow: 'Stupid Hooverism' (Interview w/ VP Biden Econ Advisor Jared Bernstein)
 
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MSNBC's Rachel Maddow - Biden adviser Jared Bernstein on Obama's reported SOTU economic plans - PART 1.

PART 2 is Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loszk2DsNlE
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:21 PM
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1. A stuttering idiot.
No coherent thoughts and no coherent sentences from this cheerleading asskissing toady.
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:27 PM
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4. Who - the economist or Rachel? It's hard to tell. nt
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:53 PM
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15. Rachael is probably the smartest "news" person
on the TeeVee, and a Rhodes scholar.
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:33 AM
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36. You're right, but I'd bet she'd want a do-over of that segment.
Even Rhodes scholars stumble once in a while.

Ask Clinton.
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:24 PM
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2. Rachel is fearless and awesome
As usual, and she's probably the only source of political reality this guy is likely to be exposed to. Sadly.
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:27 PM
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3. Rachel is losing her edge.
She lambasts something she knows very little about, spends twice as much time talking as her guest does, and pronounces the policy she first heard about less than 5 minutes ago, a complete disaster.

Yep, that's awesome all right.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:37 PM
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6. You seem to be describing yourself, not Rachel.
But I'm sure the President appreciates your unquestioning loyalty.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:27 AM
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:44 AM
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26. "Rachel is losing her edge." Absurd.
Rachel's edge is razor sharp. If only those in charge of this country had as sharp an edge.
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:25 AM
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34. You're treating Rachel like the dittoheads treat Rush.
'It's impossible, just impossible I say, that Rachel could have a misstep.'

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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:50 AM
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37. I'm doing nothing of the kind.
Of course Rachel could have a misstep. But in this instance-NOT.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:37 PM
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5. I LOVE Rachel - but I felt like Jared was trying to connect with her and she was going
"lalalalala I can't hear you".

I don't agree with everything Jared said but I felt like Rachel wasn't listening to the points he was trying to make.

That's okay - that just means that this administration is going to have to try harder to make people believe in what they are selling.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:44 AM
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18. I concur. The marketing has to be simple as well.
That interview dragged on.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:20 AM
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23. Except polls already show that WE SIMPLY CANNOT ACCEPT THIS BARF!
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 02:24 AM by truedelphi
The American people are sick and tired of wars we cannot win using money we don't have. Poll after Poll shows us that. And Obama's latest message is just more putridity - cutting back in ways that will hinder employment, so that there will be the extra money for those blasted wars.

Are you aware that in the middle of Holiday celebrations, our brave Congress awarded the Military Industial Complex yet another one hundred and sixty eight billion bucks to continue with expanding the war in Afghanistan, and continue our presence (and perhaps) our pulling troops out of Iraq?

This policy of war expansion is not what we want.

We did not vote for President Obama to get endless wars.

Especially not when experts say that to win the war in Afghanistan, then we have to attempt economic endeavors such as school building, water sanitation treatment plants etc. While we are required to be shutting down the schools and school programs here, because things are so tight in our national budget.

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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:40 PM
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7. This was not Rachel at her finest
but I will give her a pass because all in all I think she is the best. I really got the feeling that Bernstein was put on the spot and felt restricted on what he could and could not say at the moment and Rachel obviously did not have any details. It made for an awkward debate in which both looked rather silly.
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pezDispenser Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:02 AM
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16. good observation
+1
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:57 AM
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19. So is he one of the architects of this idea?
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:24 AM
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33. A point excellently made.
She didn't know what she was talking about because she had no details. I'm surprised at her aggressiveness given that fact.

And he struggled in part because he wasn't prepared either and had to grapple with not saying too much.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:44 PM
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8. Too cowardly to put a 1% tax on all wall street transactiions, or roll back the Bush tax cuts
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:45 PM
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9. Too cowardly to end corporate tax loops so actual corporate taxes paid are not lowest in world
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:46 PM
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10. Just rolling back the Reagan tax cuts on wealthiest 1/3 of top 1% would end deficit in 10yrs
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:47 PM
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11. Instead Rahm Obama comes up with a spending freeze to score teabagger points
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:49 PM
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12. Rates right up there with 'preventive detention' and corporate personhood
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:51 PM
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13. Maybe it's just words to pacify the misinformation around the Mayberry republicans
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:53 PM
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14. Mayberry repubs-you know the ones who regarless of the explosion in population
believe that all we need is a sheriff and a judge for government.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:36 AM
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25. ...and the ones who don't seem to realize that...
...Andy Griffith was (and still is) a liberal.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:47 AM
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31. Good one!
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:43 AM
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22. Aw, stop pickin' on Ramen Noodle, I mean Rahm Emanuel.


Wet noodles who cave to the GOP at every turn have feelings TOO, ya know!

What's so bad about one more appeasement of the GOP ANYWAY!?

Freezing worked for Hoover, didn't it? What's so bad about "stupid Hooverism"? It's not as if we had a depression afterwards or anything!

Here's the second half of Rachel's interview with Jared Bernstein ---


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loszk2DsNlE


I'm with Jared! See the whole interview before you decide that Hooverism is bad!

We have to reach across the aisle! More! More! More!

Phooey!




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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:11 PM
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39. +5
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:46 AM
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30. +4
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:46 AM
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29. +3
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:46 AM
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28. +2
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:45 AM
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27. +1
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:24 AM
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17. thank god Rachel was there to inject a little
sanity into this whole notion. I feel whiplashed by this week and the "attack on banks and wall street" only to find out that the only real thing being proposed to deal with the loss of jobs is a friggin "spending freeze".

No matter how Mr. Berstein tried to spin and filibuster, he can't spin his way out of this.

Holy frigging nightmare. This reminds me of the "clear skies initiative" and other B* named policies that did exactly the opposite of what they claimed---

I really don't see how even a master orator can spin this crap bucket as anything but a republican wet dream.....
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:24 AM
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20. I totally agree with you. The worst aspect is it so much like pandering to Loser GOP Dogma
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 01:27 AM by Overseas
It is so very OUTDATED-- harks back to that already old-fashioned in the 90's New Democrat junk.

And yes, shades of Hoover instead of FDR.

Why aren't we going FDR already?

That worked. That's why the GOP hates it. Good government public works programs were successful. Put us back to work and we will spend the money.

Freeze spending and more jobs will dry up and we will have less to spend. And we will panic even more and spend even less even when we have jobs because we don't know where this cruel freezing will stop.

And to leave the bloated defense budget untouched after nearly a decade of Bush Gang war profiteering is cowardly.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:23 AM
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24. Same here. n/t
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:34 AM
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21. China probably told the White House - we are cutting you off - bar is closed

I think they are just trying to put a better light on something that is being thrown at them by the 'lender-in-chief' - Beijing.

They would never admit as much.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:50 AM
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32. Beijing has expressed strong concern.
The problem being all the resources have been funneled to banks and high end investors. True believers in "trickle down".
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 06:35 PM
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38. He should be at the Macy's parade
Blew enough smoke up my ass I could float across three boroughs.
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