SNL Review: Honeymoon's Over

[Britethorn]

Run time: 02:48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osEetEespzU   Posted on YouTube: November 22, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: November 22, 2009 By DU Member: Britethorn Views on DU: 2436

 
SNL is beginning to take the gloves off with the Obama Presidency -- but that doesn't mean they're letting the Right Wing go unscathed!

All the SNL sketches should be up here shortly:
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/

[Wizard777]

1. I love the new found honesty with the promos of these clips. I think I'll actually watch this one.

[Britethorn]

8. Honesty?

Speaking of honesty, how honest is it of the Democratic Underground to be displaying that SNL clip (Palin 2012) which is being used without the permission of NBC? I love the fact that the user even warns people to watch it fast before it gets pulled. Where is the morality there? Personally, I hate the fact that I can't post their clips without their permission, hut those are the rules and I try to follow them.

[Tx4obama]

9. Well we are the 'underground'

There is a difference between uploading clips on YouTube (which I didn't do) and pointing out & posting a YouTube clip here on the 'underground' in order for folks that don't have TV's or missed the show or don't have access to certain clips in other countries.

[Britethorn]

10. Underground?

Well, its getting kind of difficult for us to call ourselves an "Underground" when we control everything except the Supreme Court.

[Tx4obama]

11. I was talking about THIS website Democratic UNDERGROUND. n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. This guy doesn't like Dave Matthews?

That's nuts.

[Dogmudgeon]

3. The rape metaphor is getting a LOT of use these days

Obama portrayed as a rapist.

Hmmm.

I wonder why so many people are so quick to depict our first African American president as a rapist.

I'm a fan of SNL, Fred Armisen, and Will Forte (and Joseph Gordon-Levitt), and loved the "2012 Re-Cut", as well as Al Gore's too-brief spots. But they picked up the poison apple with this particular intro, and bit right into it.

--d!

[Britethorn]

7. Rapist?

I think you're really reaching on the rapist thing.

[Dogmudgeon]

14. How 'bout Beck, and Rush, and their crowd?

Rush has used the metaphor of rape several dozen times in the last two years, and the frequency has been increasing. Beck has been making a number of assertions that Obama is "raping" the USA over the last few months, including Roman Polanski jokes. "Bending over" and "grabbing one's ankles" is the favored phrasing for the activity.

The American Id has been speaking loudly for several years now. For a couple of years, ass, spanking, and sadism metaphors were dominant, no pun intended. Now, it's crossed over into rape.

I'm not reaching -- the rhetorical atmosphere has been filled with (political) rapes and rumors of rapes, most of it from the Right. It's sad that it made it to SNL, though I doubt that any of the writers gave it much thought. Historically, body-assault (and poison, and disease) metaphors are well known indicators of rising inclinations of fascism; they are warning bells, in a way.

Don't take my word for it; just turn your attention to it. I'm sure it will become the topic of punditly concern fairly soon.

--d!

[Beacool]

13. What are you talking about???

They are basically saying that China is being fu**ed by The USA because we owe them over a trillion dollars and the Chinese fear that we'll never be able to repay them.

It's not about rape........

:eyes:

[Dogmudgeon]

15. See my reply to the previous post, above

The Right has been saying that Obama has been doing the same thing to them, too. Rush Limbaugh is particularly fond of rectal rape talk.

You are right, though, it's not about rape. Rape is only the figure of speech used to charge the imagination.

--d!

[slampoet]

4. SNL has been making unfunny jokes about Obama since 2007.

There were never any gloves to start with.

If Lorne Michaels actually hired a NON-Ivy League writer once in a while maybe there would actually be some real jokes about Obama instead of simply inept imitation.

[Overseas]

5. I thought this one was really disgusting. Not at all funny.

President Obama has been doing great things with his international diplomacy. He has had to tread a very careful line with the People's Republic of China because they bought up a lot of the debt that the Bush Gang stacked up with their reckless, expensive wars of choice, and their deregulated finance sector swapping bundles of toxic assets that we had to bail out.

Furthermore, US "free trade" policies pumped up during Reagan's terms and continued by the New Democrats, outsourced tons of our manufacturing to China. Maybe because Republicans knew China would show its appreciation for the new business by using a lot of their profits to buy up our national debt. That's the situation President Obama inherited and has to navigate within. He did a great job on the Asia trip, managing to restore some respect for the USA in spite of our having been turned into a beggar country by previous administrations.

So the HA HA look at China sticking out its ass for him to kiss sketch was really grotesque. Not funny at all. I had to turn it off part way. Watched a minute or two to see if it got anywhere but no-- it just seemed like jackass humor. And frankly, it seemed like a right wing point to me-- look at our president kissing the ass of foreign officials-- he should be bombing them instead! The right wing wants the USA to have an imperial presidency, bombing everyone instead of wasting time with all that wimpy diplomacy.

Or it could even have been trying to make the opposite point-- Hey China wants us to kiss their ass but President Obama didn't. Hey he's cool. China knows full well they don't have to get President Obama to kiss their ass; previous administrations had already done that. While some basic international facts are not understood by many Americans, thanks to the Foxification of our news, the rest of the world knows China owns most of our national debt so we are beholden to them and have to walk a very delicate line.

But whatever President Obama needed to do when interacting with the country to which prior administrations allowed so much of our manufacturing to be outsourced-- so Walmart could sell us the cheap stuff our people needed after all the union busting and wage cutting we allowed our corporations to push so Republicans could offer bigger tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans-- he surely doesn't need grotesque portrayals of the current Chinese premier bending over on a popular US TV show.

We will need to engage in delicate diplomacy regarding lots of upcoming issues, especially addressing global warming. We will have to figure out how to get the USA to dramatically cut its carbon emissions before other countries like China or India do as much, because they are just catching up-- we dumped tons of CO2 into the atmosphere for decades before they aggressively industrialized.

Are we going to be treated to more of this "Negotiation is Dumb and Wimpy" type of right wing humor every time our president tries to navigate more delicate issues?

Because either way-- "Look at our President-- he doesn't kiss anyone's ass" -- or -- "Look at our President having to kiss ass in China" -- either way is broad-stroke jackass stuff. It undercuts our president's efforts to demonstrate to the world that we have some reasonable people who understand our position as one nation in the global community and are interested in negotiating our future with respect for all parties.

[notesdev]

6. I thought this was freaking hilarious

then again, I understand the economics.

The fatal flaw of this party is its complete inability to maturely deal with the concept of money. If I could make one change it would be to give the members of our party an understanding of economics and specifically the ability to make rational decisions about responsible money management.

If I ran my household finances like we run the government, my kids would be starving and homeless.

[Cha]

12. No, they've been doing crap idiocyfor a while now.

They don't base it on any facts just made up shit that they think is suppose to be funny.