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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 03:11 PM
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TYT: The Most Racist Comments About Mexicans Ever Allowed On-Air
 
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 03:28 PM
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1. What an unmitigated asshole that guy is.
Edited on Sun May-03-09 03:28 PM by 20score
He should go down in history with people like Bull Connor as a real sub-human.

K&R
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 03:35 PM
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2. K&R
:grr:
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Azooz Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:14 PM
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3. K & R
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:29 PM
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4. Excellent point about similarities w/Nazi propaganda
i.e., dehumanize "the other" and imply or state that they are taking away something from those with majority status or that they are a threat to the majority

I wonder if Severin is a completely free agent & makes up his own stuff, or if he is fed his 'talking points' by some entity who would profit from division amongst the people of N. America?

Cenk is correct, unfortunately.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:03 PM
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5. We all know
a virus will respect borders...will come to a screeching halt at the US Line! What is this a cartoon?
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:27 PM
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6. And we shouldn't be surprised about this
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:38 PM
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7. classic cenk hypocrisy. switch out racist and put in sexist, and cenk is the biggest joke
what he does with women on his show is par to this video. and the argument he uses and words he choses is comparable. definition of sexism... dehumanize/minimize. get away with sexism unlike any other group. right to say, ought not to say. will be hero to some. in defense, you are being too pc. sexism, no one gives a damn. seeps into audience, so many dumb assholes listen. they arent human, they are things. real consequenses.

now granted, in cenk defense, he is not nazi like this repug guy is.... but

listening to this rant of his after a year or two listening to him talk about females

hypocrisy

and this is from soemone who really likes and appreciate cenk, .... except
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:48 PM
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11. Nice try.
If you're going to make asinine and inflammatory comments, at least bring a link or two.
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:32 PM
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15. ...
:eyes:
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:45 PM
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17. Not living up to the Jedi Code or something?
It isn't particularly clear from your post exactly what your problem with Cenk is. From what I can piece together it seems to have something do with Cenk being a sexist, as well as his listeners being asshole, non-human, things.

Seems perfectly rational to me.

:rofl:
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 09:29 AM
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21. Ah,-No!
Edited on Mon May-04-09 10:14 AM by Kajsa
As a female who has been listening to Cenk for some
time now, I disagree with your accusation that he is
sexist.

I know them when I see/hear them.

" get away with sexism unlike any other group"

WHAT group?

I don't think you can bunch Cenk in with any
group when discussing civil liberties.

He stands independently as a supporter of civil rights
for all.


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murdoch Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:43 PM
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8. The Republicans are doing outreach to Latinos...
...of course, I don't think they'll appreciate being called primitives, among the milder things Severin said.

In many elections, Republicans do not do outreach to blacks and Latinos because they think they will get more votes, but so that white moderates will not think they are going too overboard on racism and will vote Republican. Republican outreach is a Potemkin village not to do outreach to any actual minorities, but to try to fool white moderates.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:22 PM
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13. Republican outreach would be more credible if they weren't holding a stick.
*
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:50 PM
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9. Yeah! Like those "primatives".....
....that brought Polio and Small Pox to this continent centuries ago!


And Muslims may be very low on the prejudice scale, but atheists are even lower. So low no one even notices!
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:22 PM
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10. K&R
:kick:
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:03 PM
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12. What's most nauseating is the size of his "liberal" Boston audience
Maybe it's his prissy, faux-"refined" manner of speaking that gives the closet knuckle draggers licence to listen to his blatant racism. This kind of shit is nothing new for Jayzie. During the 2000 recount, he was accusing Florida election officials of certifying scraps of potato chip wrappers and empty cigarette packs with G-O-A-R scrawled in pencil as legal ballots. Yup, they were so determined to steal the election, they were sweeping the floors of tenement hallways for Gore votes.
After 9/11? He said we should start by NUKING Baghdad, no questions asked. But Ben's right, he'll probably just move over to WRKO for more money. He'd be more at home with Howie, Rush and Savage anyway.

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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:23 PM
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14. his "liberal" Boston audience
Damn those Southern bigots!

Oh...Boston's not in Alabama? My bad.
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:33 PM
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16. Poorly worded
I meant that Boston is allegedly liberal, not his audience.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:15 PM
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18. Boston is allegedly liberal
I got it. Not too poorly worded.

My snarky sarcasm was aimed at those who always blame the South for prejudice. It's pretty universal as far as I can see. The South's version just gets more publicity.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:25 PM
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19. Well, it's not just more publicity.
Obviously it goes back to the civil war, confederate flag, which states resisted integration the most for the longest period of time (it's relative I know), etc.

With that said, yes, racism is everywhere BUT often times it's more insidious/hidden in the North. Some would argue that actually makes it worse, but it's hard to argue that more people *tend* to be more open and blatant about it in the South (I know my dad in TX, originally from IL, wouldn't argue with that).
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 09:22 AM
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20. Cenk nailed the insidious way
this garbage seeps into the conscious/unconscious of the
"dumb assholes" listening to this guy.

They believe it and worse, act on it!

The jerk's statistics on CA would be hilarious if this wasn't so
outrageously racist.
"Hundreds of students" out with the swine flu?
I don't think so--try a handful.

"Diseased primitives"- that would be himself he's talking about.

I'm glad this jerk is exposed for what he is, a neo-Nazi.

:kick: and R.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:26 AM
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22. Proper use of the word "racism"
For a lawyer, Cenk is not very precise about the definition of the word. Racism should be reserved for hatred against other races (setting aside the fact that there is just one human race and allowing for the partitioning of it). Laws against this idiot's brand of hatred are that it is wrong to discriminate against national origin. Similarly, discrimination against Muslims is not racism, but religious discrimination.

This is not meant to be a pedantic observation, but to show the futility of the tactic of labeling all discrimination as "racism". When you lump religious discrimination in with ethnic discrimination in with homophobia and other kinds of hatred in with racism, you have given the haters safety in numbers. As Cenk rightly observes, there are levels of hatred and bigotry, and some are widely tolerated. To combat that, it would be a much better idea to 'divide and conquer' and isolate each individual hatred and show it to be stupid and ignorant. So do everyone a favor and quit overusing the word 'racism'. Target the hatred and isolate it and then it will crumble of its own irrationality.
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:51 PM
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25. Sorry, but I'm in favor of calling out racism where it is obvious
Do you really think Severin only discriminates against Mexicans because they're from Mexico? Isn't labelling any national or ethnic group "primitive" the very definition of racism, the suggestion of inferiority? If this jackass isn't a racist, no one is, and if we're so afraid of the word, then PC really has won out.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:15 PM
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26. Catch-all terms
I don't see gays making any progress by accusing homophobes of being racists. They have made much progress since Stonewall, all by targeting a particular type of hatred, homophobia. The problem with targeting hate, or racism, is that it has such a broad definition, everybody can be against it in the abstract. How many times have we heard from X-tians "we don't hate the sinner, we hate the sin" when promoting their str8 based discrimination? The way to call people off of their right wing hate of the day is to call it for what it is, not just some catchall category. You are not going to make them tolerant accepting people in one step, each one of their hates is going to have to be pruned away, one by one.
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:17 PM
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27. Huh?
Who the hell calls homophobes "racist"?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:56 PM
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28.  Mexicans and Muslims..
Edited on Mon May-04-09 04:14 PM by stillcool
are targeted because of their race period. Those who discriminate against anyone of Middle-eastern descent don't need to know or ask if the person they're targeting is a Muslim. It is their physical appearance that brings out the hatred and violence of the American people. Same goes for anyone of Mexican descent. Doesn't matter how many generations have lived in this country, who they are, what they do..it's purely physical appearance.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 07:46 AM
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30. Wild guess here, but if the Swine Flu had come from our neighbors to the north instead...
this dimwit wouldn't have had a "primitive" Canadians tirade on his show. Damn right it's racism.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 07:42 AM
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29. He was entirely proper in the choice of his vocabulary.
Denotation v. Connotation comes in to play here.

He could be more specific and call it nationalism instead of racism, but racism has a connotation that is widely understood as more insidious and odious than nationalism.

Back to denotation, race is denoted as "a group of persons related by common descent or heredity." Sounds like that could easily apply to Mexicans as to Asians. You know darned well that idiot was calling them primitive because of not only their nationality, but because their descent is hispano-mesoamerican.

The man was spouting racist crap plain and simple.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 11:32 AM
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23. Okay, I'm off to go take a shower.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 12:23 PM
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24. K&R
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