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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:20 PM
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Jill Carroll interview from ABC News
But this is not a MSM interview...

The folks who kidnapped her interviewed her on video and released somewhere, I guess...ABC has the transcript.

God Bless Jill Carroll!

Most interesting part snipped out below...but much more at link:



Voice: Do you have a message for Mr. Bush?

Carroll: (Laughs)Yeah, he needs to stop this war. He knows this war is wrong. He knows that it was illegal from the very beginning. He knows that it was built on a mountain of lies and I think he needs to finally admit that to the American people and make the troops go home and he doesn't care about his own people. He doesn't care about the people here in Iraq, he needs to wake up and the people of America need to wake up and tell that what he's done here is wrong and so hopefully this time he can get the message that this war was wrong and the continuing occupation is wrong adn he could change his policies. He's dangerous for Iraq. He's dangerous for America. He needs to accept that and admit that to people.


::snip:::

Voice: What do you feel now that the Mujahedeen are giving you your freedom while there are still women in Abu Ghraib living in very bad (unclear)?

Carroll: Well, I feel guilty honestly. I've been here, treated very well, like a guest. I've been given good food, never, never hurt while those women are in Abu Ghraib. Terrible things are happening to them with the American soldiers are torturing them and other things I don't want, I can't even say, so I feel guilty and I also feels it shows the difference between the Mujahedeen and Americans, the Mujahedeen are merciful and kind that's why I'm free and alive. The American army they aren't <…not clear…> I feel guilty and I also feel that it just shows that Mujahedeen are good people, fighting an honorable fight, a good fight while the Americans are here as an occupying force treating the people in a very, very bad way so I can't be happy totally for my freedom, there are people still suffering in prisons and very difficult situations.


http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=1787481&page=1



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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:23 PM
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1. I agree with her, BUT I sense a little Stockholm Syndrome there
Specifically the "the Mujahedeen are merciful and kind that's why I'm free and alive" part. Yes, they released her - but her vocabulary takes a radical shift, using the kidnappers words, not hers...

But nonetheless I do agree with her.
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:25 PM
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3. eh...maybe
But she was a reporter there and no doubt had some previous exposure to those sorts....
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:29 PM
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5. She Was Not Quite Out Of The Woods Yet, Sir
It would be wisest in that situation to say what seemed to be required, and leave the question of sincerity for later....

"Sincerity is the key. If you can fake that, you've got it made."
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:30 PM
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6. Either way...
She said waht needs to be said...what we've been trying to tell the American people for a long time now....
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:37 PM
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10. Some Yes, Sir, Some No
The armed factions there are far from merciful, and that element reads as simple nonesense, and serves to discredit in people's ears the rest of the statements. It is hardly the best vehicle for communicating the message.
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:39 PM
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11. Understood...
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 05:40 PM by Sammy Pepys
I was speaking more to the bolded part.

It will be interesting to see if she comes out and refutes those comments now that she's safe. She may genuinely feel that way about Bush, but may have had to throw some lip service in to satisfy her kidnappers.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:24 PM
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2. a beautiful and courageous woman
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:26 PM
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4. She's gonna get ripped apart for saying these things.
She will be labeled a traitor and worse. She's gonna need a lot of courage and support for the coming storm.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:31 PM
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7. It was under duress I would say.
Released on an insurgent website? No need to give it much credibility as anything other than forced.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:34 PM
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9. I think we understand that.
But we also understand others in this country won't see it that way.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:44 PM
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12. agreed. n/t
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 05:50 PM by Jim4Wes
oops replied to wrong post. Meant to reply to #9.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:34 PM
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8. Its being reported that she was under gunpoint.
That affects things a bit.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:48 PM
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13. The kidnappers told her they would let her go if she cooperated in that
video.

That's no more an "interview" than any other video made while a hostage is held against their will by armed captors.

From CSM:

Jill Carroll forced to make propaganda video as price of freedom
By Dan Murphy | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

CAIRO - The night before journalist Jill Carroll's release, her captors said they had one final demand as the price of her freedom: She would have to make a video praising her captors and attacking the United States, according to Jim Carroll.

In a long phone conversation with his daughter on Friday, Mr. Carroll says that Jill was "under her captor's control."

Ms. Carroll had been their captive for three months and even the smallest details of her life - what she ate and when, what she wore, when she could speak - were at her captors' whim. They had murdered her friend and colleague Allan Enwiya, "she had been taught to fear them," he says. And before making one last video the day before her release, she was told that they had already killed another American hostage.

That video appeared Thursday on a jihadist website that carries videos of beheadings and attacks on American forces. In it, Carroll told her father she felt compelled to make statements strongly critical of President Bush and his policy in Iraq. http://www.csmonitor.com/earlyed/earlyWO0331a.htm
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:56 PM
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14. The Christian Science Monitor says she was threatened
Jill's family says she was threatened that if she went to the green zone or cooperated she would be killed by Mujahedeen moles. Its very possible she hasn't taken back what she said because of threats.

I hope she didn't mean any of what she said on the tape. Agree or disagree with what America is doing in Iraq, her kidnappers are inhuman thugs. They shot Jill's translator and kidnapped Jill. Jill was not a combatant. By all accounts she was a journalist who was fair to both sides. Her kidnapping was nothing other than an act of terrorism.

I am troubled when I read fellow libs praising those Iraqis who kidnap and kill. There is so much I love about DU but some of the attitudes bring shame upon the site.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:57 PM
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15. So happy to hear she's safe -- however, bet the CIA did it's thing
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