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Andre II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 05:10 PM
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MSNBC: Moussaoui wearing stun belt?
As MSNBC hasn't put the transcript on the net.
Here an excerpt:

ABRAMS: Did -- how did his behavior compare? I mean we`ve heard about these outbursts in court, in addition to...
WILLIAMS: Yes.
ABRAMS: ... regularly firing his lawyers, they`ve had to throw him out of court again and again, but it seems today he was actually responding to questions, et cetera?
WILLIAMS: Yes, the old, you know, outbursts were gone. The old Zacarias Moussaoui who was prone to histrionics, who had to be told to sit down by the judge, who sort of argued with everything, fought all the procedures, he was very docile today. Now I`m speculating here, but I think it -- you know we believe that he`s wearing one of those stun belts, and it may be that he was very worried about doing anything that would cause the marshals to press that button, understandably so, but for whatever reason you`re right, he acted like any other witness. He was very methodical, and it was the contrast between the extreme hatred and preparation to hijack planes on the one hand, and his very placid demeanor on the other.
ABRAMS: A stun belt? They literally...
WILLIAMS: Yes...
ABRAMS: ... have something around his waist that they can push a button and...
WILLIAMS: Well as you know, these are sometimes used in the courts and we`re not positive about this. He`s wearing a prison jumpsuit, you can`t see what`s under it, but some previous court documents have led us to speculate that he might be wearing one. Again, I`m not certain about this...
ABRAMS: Right.
WILLIAMS: ... but another piece of evidence that would suggest that he was is when the jury selection started and he would stand up and say he`s al Qaeda, the judge would have him led out of the courtroom and each time he would put his hands on his head and say look I`m not doing anything threatening, which suggests he was trying to say you know, don`t zap me, I`m behaving myself. So I`m not sure about that, but it`s a possibility.
ABRAMS: All right. Pete Williams as always thanks a lot. Appreciate it.

(MSNBC, 3/27/06)

Maybe this explains why Moussaoui was having "fun":

Asked by his lawyer why he signed his guilty plea in April as "the 20th hijacker," Moussaoui replied: "Because everybody used to refer to me as the 20th hijacker and it was a bit of fun."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/23/terror/main1433313_page2.shtml

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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 05:14 PM
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1. I doubt it
there is very little that would prevent him from forcing them to use the stun belt to show our barbarity while he shat himself and had a seizure.

If there was a stun belt and he didn't take advantage of it for the cameras I would be extremely puzzled.

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Andre II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 05:27 PM
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5. Well,
what was written in previous court documents that apparently point in the direction of stun belts as well?
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 05:44 PM
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6. a stun belt sucks in a court room
it causes the defendant to automatically earn pity points, or at the very least lends an air of disgust and barbarity when used.

We prefer to torture people where nobody can see.

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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 05:19 PM
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2. Portable Torture... I love it... We could issue one to every Iraqi...
man, woman and child and nip this insurgency right in the bud. To pay for it... we could rent it out to the Mullahs so they could zap anyone not attending Church on time.

One has to wonder if Mr. Moussaoui isn't just some raving lunatic they're prosecuting as a patsy. I bet that belt of his is a wonderful nutjob training tool.

"We're you the 20th hijacker?"

"No"

*^*~~ZAP~~*^*

"We're you the 20th hijacker?"

"Yes"

*^*~~ZAP~~*^*

"In Arabic, you piece of shit."
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 05:26 PM
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4. That's not all--
Inmates With Hiv/Aids Forced To Wear Stun Belts In U.S. Prison

http://www.ilga.info/Current%20activities/Urgent%20actions/iglhrc/inmates_with_hiv.htm

I'm irate! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 05:19 PM
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3. I didn't even know there was stun belts
:wtf: :mad: :mad:
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 05:45 PM
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7. Robotic control device
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