Weldon Able Danger tale unraveling

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/14099912.htm

WASHINGTON - Late one night in June, Rep. Curt Weldon (R., Pa.) stood up in a largely empty House chamber and made an incendiary charge.

With dramatic rhetorical flourish, he said that a secret military intelligence program called Able Danger fingered Mohamed Atta and two other al-Qaeda hijackers before the 9/11 attacks - and that the government had failed to act.

"Not only did our military identify the Mohamed Atta cell, our military made a recommendation in September of 2000 to bring in the FBI to take out the cell of Mohamed Atta," he said.

Within days of the attacks, he said, he gave the same information - a pre-9/11 chart with Atta's name - to Stephen Hadley, then deputy national security adviser, to show how the government dropped the ball.

But Weldon's story, which unleashed a wave of national media attention as well as probes and congressional hearings, is unraveling.

[sharp_stick]

1. Did he ever get any traction with this?

I recall seeing him being the only whacko standing up and talking about this, did anyone else back him up? I mean other than the usual cabal of nutjobs like Oreilly, Hannity and Rush.

[NNN0LHI]

2. Lou Dobbs is fascinated with Weldon and his fables n/t

[radio4progressives]

16. He's not just going after Clinton administration he's going after both ...

so there's no way that O'Reilly or Hannity is going to back him up..

they did with the former FBI guy, what was his name? Frea? that had a beef with Clinton on this story and he got a lot of media coverage with his book - but what appears to me to have occured since the release of that book - is that Weldon may have learned a lot more than he ever bargained for on the events of 9/11 - which would bring down the entire Bush administration -

So the job that has to be done now, is to make him look like a psychotic wacko, just like Tice, Richard Clark, Paul O'Neil and the list is endless. And it helps that he's already a bit unraveled with all the shit he's learned as it is, almost like he's doing their job for the agency.

But to strictly focus your lazers on an agenda to attack Clinton is missing the whole story which involves the intelligence communitie - that is generally in place in administrations of both parties.

For instance Richard Clark worked under administrations of both parties since I think Poppy Bush if i'm not mistaken.

[seemslikeadream]

3. Philip Zelikow is a LIAR

Why would someone believe Zelikow over Shaffer

The 9/11 commission said its executive director, Philip Zelikow, and three others had met with Shaffer at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan, where he was on assignment, in October 2003 as part of its probe. Contradicting Shaffer, the 9/11 commission said that during this meeting, he never mentioned that Able Danger had identified Atta and other hijackers before the plot, the commission said.

[EFerrari]

10. And so far, an unindicted co-conspirator.

I knew the commission was a joke as soon as he was named to it.

[radio4progressives]

17. Yes! Thank You!

I'll need to bring out the Guns and Butter archives and a bunch of other material - but by the time i do that, this thread will be locked and deleted.

(sigh)

[EFerrari]

20. This won't get the thread locked: as soon as he was named

to head up an investigation ON HIS BOSSES, I knew the commission wouldn't do the work.

That is like Ahnold investigating his own incidents of sexual harrassment. Doug says, "He won't even use both hands."

lol

[radio4progressives]

11. Zelikow is the most Discredited of the lot..

and the fact that he ended up being both a witness and a 9/11 commissioner should speak VOLUMES on how much of shell game/dog and pony/smoke and mirrors that entire commission was - complete cover up - start to finish.

[Just Me]

19. Funny, ain't it. You know damn well that, if Able Danger indicted Clinton

,...the BushCO/neoconster regime and their followers would be ALL OVER THAT SHIT!

But, NO, now, Able Danger is just another wacky conspiracy theory. See how that works? Tsk tsk. Even Republicans and alleged "principled and noble" intelligence occifers get white-washed.

I'm so bitter.

[wakeme2008]

4. just because Weldon is crazy does not make Able Danger

not true. There were other ppl talking about Able Danger.

[underpants]

14. Yeah but it sounds like W&Co. are cutting him off so he is fishing ...

for support possibly from the left (meaning US I guess). The way Able Danger originally was sold was on RW radio as a damnation of Clinton-blaming 9/11 on Clinton. Sounds like Hadly told him to beat it so now Weldon is shopping this around to see if anyone else wants to pick it up and run with it.

Aside from any damning info on W (incompetence and neglect IMHO not LIHOP) is the fact that Able Danger got unceremoniously shut down in..........February 2001. Hmmmmmmmm wonder why? ABC? (AnythingButClinton?)

Weldon apparently airs conspiracy theories and stuff no one else will. Sometimes he is right but most often he comes off as a nutcase as you said.

[seemslikeadream]

15. This nutcase was also subpoena to testify in the Moussaoui trial

He's fighting it

[seemslikeadream]

5. Schoomaker never told Richard Clarke about ABLE DANGER

WHY NOT?


Able Danger is a Pandora's Box that will blow up in the RW's face.
Re-open the 9/11 investigation? BRING IT ON! Here's why:

So the responsibility for stopping DIA program Able Danger, which had Identified Atta and 3 other hijackers and linked them to 56 other al-Queda terrorists overseas, has been laid at the feet of Bill Clinton--except he and Richard Clarke were never told about it at all.

That's right. Bill Clinton was never told about Able Danger and the ID of Atta because Richard Clarke was never told about AD. How do I know? He never wrote about it in his book, nor did he testify about it's existence before the 9-11 Commission!

You see Richard Clarke was known for being obsessed with Osama Bin Laden and HE was the guy the neo-con moles did not want to find out about Atta and the gang. Schoomaker and the neo-cons knew telling the FBI would inform Clarke and then Mr. Laser Beam himself, President of the United State William Jefferson Clinton, would have gotten involved--and the Pearl Harbor-type attack would never take place (the neo-cons talked about the need for a Pearl Harbor-type attack before the PNAC Plan would be accepted by the American people--so when one presented itself, they let it happen).

General Pete Schoomaker, who were later heavily rewarded by the neo-cons in the Bush Administration, blocked the upward motion of the DIA information by having Shaffer and Philpott meet with Pentagon lawyers opinions--lawyers who were rubberstamping ridiculous legal opinions to carry out the neo-con plan. These certain people were neo-cons in the Clinton Administration, covertly carrying out the PNAC plan to let a Pearl Harbor-type attack occur so Iraq and 6 other countries could be invaded.


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/24/124834/678

[robertpaulsen]

22. Keep it up, SLaD!

:hi:

[The_Casual_Observer]

6. This was a blatant attempt to pin the blame on Clinton.

It was pure swift boat. weldon ought to resign now.

[radio4progressives]

12. that's the problem making it look like this was an attack on Clinton

a botched attempt to point out the fact that the events surrounding 9/11 was a cover up - which unfortunately includes a couple Florida Senators (former and current) I'd wish they would just come out with the goddam truth, and do it now rather than later.

but i'm not holding my breath...

[seemslikeadream]

13. POLL at CNN

POLL at CNN
The question:
Do you agree with Charlie Sheen that the U.S. government covered up the real events of the 9/11 attacks?
Yes or No
Yes 82% 11713 votes
No 18% 2541 votes
Total: 14254 votes
http://tinyurl.com/eatxf

[glitch]

18. My my my, who knew we conspiracy theorists had such a majority? nt

:rofl:

[seemslikeadream]

7. Whatever Weldon says or does post 9/11

Weldon may be a bit of a loon. He does believe a lot of wacky stuff but whatever he says or does post-9/11 has no bearing on the reality of what happened with Able Danger pre-9/11.

[KoKo]

8. Curious....

Since we know the "9/11 Commission was in Bush's back pocket it's hard to know the truth of this. Is Weldon doing a "Rove" where he concocts this story and therefore causes any questions about "9/11" to stay in the "Conspiracy Theory" territory. Or is there something "real" here.


I don't know anything about Weldon and am too lazy to do a deep Google search to find out his past ....but it's curious.

:shrug:

[radio4progressives]

9. Misleading Heading

The Story that is unravelling is the 9/11 Cover Up Commission Report.

and it's about damn time..

[Catherine Vincent]

21. I've always said Weldon wants to put blame on the Clinton administration

for 9/11 intelligence failures. This tidbit seals it for me:

Weldon has said Rep. Dan Burton (R., Ind.) went with him to Hadley's office to discuss the Able Danger program and to deliver the chart produced by the Able Danger team.

You all remember ol scumbag Dan Burton right?