Another "No shit Sherlock" moment. FBI: Could find 11 hijackers...

[johnnie]

...if Moussaoui told truth"

"ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (Reuters) - If Zacarias Moussaoui had told authorities in August 2001 that a hijacking plot was under way in the United States, the
FBI could have found records leading them to 11 of the September 11 hijackers, a former FBI official said on Thursday.

Aaron Zebley, a former FBI agent who now works as a federal prosecutor, testified in Moussaoui's sentencing trial that a major investigation would have been launched before the September 11 attacks if he had told about the plot when he was arrested in August 2001"

More:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060323/ts_nm/security_moussaoui_dc

So let me get this straight... if this dude would have told the FBI about the hijackers, then the FBI would have known about the hijackers. :think:

[maveric]

1. Two of the 9/11 hijackers were living in San Diego, with an FBI informant!

For over a damn year!
Was he just a bad informant?
The hijackers were on a "watch list" too.

[skypilot]

2. And if Lee Harvey Oswald had told of his plans..

...JFK might be alive today. :eyes: Unbelievable. You really have to wonder about the caliber of our FBI agents these days.

I really think that IQs have taken a nosedive over the last five years.

[KurtNYC]

7. Oswald did NOT shoot JFK

but that is a whole other topic.

[Initech]

3. Just when I thought the incompetency of this govt couldnt sink any lower..

[sinkingfeeling]

4. Bulls**t! If Chimpy could read and if he'd listened to what the previous

administration tried to tell him, the FBI could have launched a major investigation before the September 11 attacks. This whole Moussaoui trial makes me sick. How can you condemn a man to death on a 'would have', 'could have', 'might have'? There's absolutely no evidence that the FBI, CIA, NSC, nor anyone in the Bush administration would have acted on any of it.

[johnnie]

6. Actually

There is probably more evidence showing that they *didn't* act on any of it.

[Old and In the Way]

5. Key people who failed to act on the information were promoted

From Paul Thompson's indespensible research

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=david_frasca


January 10, 2003: Government Employees Responsible for 9/11 Failures Are Promoted
FBI Director Mueller personally awards Marion (Spike) Bowman with a presidential citation and cash bonus of approximately 25 percent of his salary. Bowman, head of the FBI's National Security Law Unit and the person who refused to seek a special warrant for a search of Zacarias Moussaoui's belongings before the 9/11 attacks, is among nine recipients of bureau awards for “exceptional performance.” The award comes shortly after a 9/11 Congressional Inquiry report saying Bowman's unit gave Minneapolis FBI agents “inexcusably confused and inaccurate information” that was “patently false.” Bowman's unit also blocked an urgent request by FBI agents to begin searching for Khalid Almihdhar after his name was put on a watch list. In early 2000, the FBI acknowledged serious blunders in surveillance Bowman's unit conducted during sensitive terrorism and espionage investigations, including agents who illegally videotaped suspects, intercepted e-mails without court permission, and recorded the wrong phone conversations. As Senator Charles Grassley (R) and others have pointed out, not only has no one in government been fired or punished for 9/11, but several others have been promoted:
Pasquale D'Amuro, the FBI's counterterrorism chief in New York City before 9/11, is promoted to the bureau's top counterterrorism post.
FBI Supervisory special agent Michael Maltbie, who removed information from the Minnesota FBI's application to get the search warrant for Moussaoui, is promoted to field supervisor.
David Frasca, head of the FBI's Radical Fundamentalist Unit, is “still at headquarters,” Grassley notes. Frasca received the Phoenix memo warning al-Qaeda terrorists could use flight schools inside the US, and then a few weeks later he received the request for Moussaoui's search warrant. “The Phoenix memo was buried; the Moussaoui warrant request was denied.” Even after 9/11, Frasca continued to “ up roadblocks” in the Moussaoui case.
President Bush later names Barbara Bodine the director of Central Iraq shortly after the US conquest of Iraq. Many in government are upset about the appointment because of her blocking of the USS Cole investigation, which some say could have uncovered the 9/11 plot. She failed to admit she was wrong or apologize. However, she is fired after about a month, apparently for doing a poor job.
An FBI official who tolerates penetration of the translation department by Turkish spies and encourages slow translations just after 9/11 is promoted (see March 22, 2002). The CIA has promoted two unnamed top leaders of its unit responsible for tracking al-Qaeda in 2000 even though the unit mistakenly failed to put the two suspected terrorists on the watch list (see August 23, 2001). “The leaders were promoted even though some people in the intelligence community and in Congress say the counterterrorism unit they ran bore some responsibility for waiting until August 2001 to put the suspect pair on the interagency watch list.” CIA Director Tenet has failed to fulfill a promise given to Congress in late 2002 that he would name the CIA officials responsible for 9/11 failures.
People and organizations involved: Pasquale D'Amuro, Michael Maltbie, David Frasca, Khalid Almihdhar, Charles Grassley, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Barbara Bodine, Central Intelligence Agency, George W. Bush, Marion ("Spike") Bowman, Robert S. Mueller III

[johnnie]

8. Thank you for posting that

Thompson's work is fantastic. He used to come here, I wonder if he still does.

[uppityperson]

9. If the FBI had listened to its own agent warning 70 times, same thing

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060320/ts_alt_afp/usattackstrial_060320193610
"An FBI agent testified that he warned his bosses about Zacarias Moussaoui 70 times before the September 11 attacks, and raised fears he planned to hijack an airliner..."

[frylock]

10. and if my aunt had nads..

she'd be my uncle.

[johnnie]

11. Lol

Yup.

[truebrit71]

14. I'm sorry but that is just effin; hysterical...

..i just sprayed coffee all over my monitor..... :rofl:

[Sinti]

12. Thought Crime - He planned to hijack an airliner

If I planned to rob a bank, but unfortunately got locked up for drunk driving and didn't show up on the pre-planned day, could they still convict me of thinking about robbing a bank? Can they give someone the death penalty for thinking about killing someone else? Scary times IMO

[johnnie]

13. Something to think about

I wonder about this stuff too.