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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 08:09 AM
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Rummaging around in the national soul: Bush as logical consequence.
Edited on Sun Mar-19-06 08:17 AM by sfexpat2000
This is an expansion of a post to Rose Siding's thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x698474

We may not like to know this, but the Bush regime is the logical consequence of a two party system where one party is founded on racism. The Thugs became "winners" when they began actively courting racists.

As a consequence, the opposition party is always interacting with the very worst, the most base characteristics of American culture. They have to. Everything they have to plan for is in response to the Republican party's principle of oppression. Oppression, not social welfare, is in this way kept at the center of American political life. It is the invisible centerpiece.

And this means, harm to bodies. It becomes okay to kill people "over there" just as people are allowed to languish, suffer and die at home. "National security" becomes code for funneling the wealth of the nation to protect corporate interests. Technology stagnates because the goal is not progress but profit or control that enables profit. The life of the people is only as secure as the life of the most oppressed person in the nation -- and we all watched that Katrina footage if we were lucky enough not to be in it.

Among the more ugly consequences of this fun house is the effect on the left. We censor ourselves. We make excuses for our so called political leadership. We keep being dragged to the right and the right's PR campaign becomes our unthinking idealization. Before long, lefties believe they aren't spiritual enough, they don't have "values", they feel nervous about "national defense" -- any number of absurdities. There is no number of counter examples that can keep up with the pollution of the press, of the national conversation, with the deal we cut to feel good about being "Americans". The image becomes more real than the daily living of our liberal values. (Anyone remember when "liberal" meant "generous?) Don't bring up abortion, gay marriage, election theft or peace. Keep your powder dry.

It is fundamentally insane to found the welfare of a nation on the oppression of its people -- any of its people. And that's what we do here. Oppression is what we seem to be apologizing for. We apologize to Iraq for destroying them, to women for their degraded health care, to gay couples for the appalling disrespect of their relationships. To the ill for having no resources to access. To our own children for the dangerous uncertainty of their future.

There is no indignity, no atrocity that should surprise us, even though we are now in a constant state of shock because of the efficiency and frequency of the latest set of atrocities. When the organizing principle of your political system is oppression -- and oppression is an abstraction that describes pain to bodies, miserable lives, needless death and destruction -- it becomes insane to expect anything else but pain, misery, death or destruction.

This is the road we have gone down. Until we excise the politics of oppression from the heart of our political life, and in particular, racism in America, this is the road we will continue on. It will become a forced march and it will lead to a lot of terrible destruction, including our own. That is the predictable outcome of our present course.

Along the way, have you noticed, we most recoil when listening to Bush speak. Because his speech is the most immediate reminder of the betrayal of American goals -- not values but goals, those things we strive to become. It's so painful to listen to this corporate front man dirty the ideals that mean so much to us: family, community, prosperity, peace. I wonder how many of us switch off this unbearable mockery of the heart and soul of our country when we hear the sound of his voice.

We can, you know, counter the sound of our values being desecrated. We could begin by mending our own speech. We could begin by practicing vocabulary terms as learners of foreign languages do. Say "equal opportunity" until you get it right. Then, continue to "social welfare" -- go crazy and try out "liberal". Extra credit if you do it at the kitchen table and at work. When you feel ready, move on to "democracy". Show your work.


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Ufomammut Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 08:18 AM
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1. Logical consequences of depoliticization...
Competition, apathy, shame-based consumerism, mindless "careerism," and a steady does of fear-based propaganda.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 08:22 AM
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2. The truth is so stunning
Thank you
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 02:45 AM
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23. left is right, I don't think I've ever talked to you before.
Welcome to DU.

The truth is stunning, isn't it?
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 08:30 AM
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3. K&R... But I feel the line is not racial...
More of an "Us or them" mindset.

Or, as Bush referred to his base: "The haves and the have mores" vs. the rest of the world.

I believe the only color this asshat administration is interested in is green.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 08:35 AM
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4. I have to get some shut eye now but, the thing that gave
the Thuggery power was courting the Klan.

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Ufomammut Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 08:37 AM
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5. Yes, However ---
If you research the right wing movement, there is a very creepy apocalyptic, faith-based approach to every major policy making decision. The question is, why?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:30 PM
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19. That's a good question and I imagine the answer is complex.
But my guess is that if you convince a group of people that they are "chosen" and that everyone else is not, then you can justify anything you do in public life by appealing to this core belief. You can destroy school systems and call it "No Child Left Behind" and so on. These titles are Orwellian to us but to the true believers they are more evidence that they are chosen, they are right and that's as far as they have to think about it.

Deep down, most people are moral, do know right from wrong. And perhaps that's where the Rapture comes in. The terrible guilt gets diffused by a painless Apocalypse.

Pretty neat trick, painless Apocalypse. :eyes:
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:09 AM
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6. kicked
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:47 PM
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7. kick
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:55 PM
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8. Oppression for Profit

Division used as a tool so that the people will not confront the thieves at the top.

Exploitation of our fears, prejudices, ignorance to maintain the divide.

When does it become the people's responsibility to reject this manipulation?

When do the people demand that the thieves and war mongerers (profiteers) be held to account?

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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:03 PM
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9. Bully nation.
This morning I was thinking how appropriate it is that screwing native Americans is what got Abramoff in trouble. That was the logical progression of thought that came from the thought that we took this nation in the first place. We killed those same people. We just came right onto their land and killed them. What kind of nation could possibly follow from that? And how hypocritical could a people be to want freedom from England all while murdering in order to get it? We have not changed. I used to be ashamed to think the truth. The negative truth.

I'm sorry I did not fully digest your article. I'm quite busy. But your post is similar to something I wanted to post. A common sense of how we begin to be one world. Liberty and justice for all? It can be done.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:09 PM
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10. If you look around, many of us are thinking about these issues.
It's actually quite encouraging! :)
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:14 PM
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11. Put that in your Journal....hey, how do I put a copy of it in my
journal? I agree 100%. The RW have tried to 'shame' us....not me! I am proud to be a liberal....Jesus was a liberal, I remind everyone who puts their nose in the air when they hear that word. I call them on their hypocrisy at every chance I get.

There was a book written by Joseph Heller...damn, I can't remember the title...maybe it was 'Something Happened?' But he brought up the idea of the 'Whammy.' The RW has the 'Whammy' on the Dems. The Dems have lost their self-confidence and are letting themselves be bullied in the public arena. This must stop. Instead of defending....we need to offend!

Thx. for the post.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:32 PM
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12. Offend a Freep today -- live like a liberal!
lol

Heller did write "Something Happened". I need to reread him. :)
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:48 PM
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13. I just put a link to this post in my Journal. nt
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:48 PM
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14. Thank you for this great post. nt
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:48 PM
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15. Excellent post and comments. K & R! ....n/t
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:49 PM
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16. As long as we're worried about being "reasonable" and having
"civil" debate, we are at the mercy of those with whom we would split the difference.

They use this against us, by knowing that we, out of fear of seeming "extreme" or "shrill" (one of their favorite invectives against liberals), will "split the difference" on:

Civil liberties.
Torture.
War.
The transfer of wealth to the wealthy, and civic burdens to the poorest.



It's time to stop meeting them halfway on things like courting the KKK, Nixon's "Southern Strategy", and all the vile monstrosities born from the same swamp.

Stand up and say, NO. Start with Censure. Win the House back, and impeach. And that's just the beginning.


Which is the long way of saying, GREAT POST. (Especially at 5 in the morning!)


:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:55 PM
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17. Maybe I was having a 5 AM Reasonableness Failure. lol
:hug:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:57 PM
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18. Don't get over it!
I know that you won't. :)


:hug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 04:56 PM
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20. More or less shameless kick
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Anita Garcia Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 05:07 PM
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21. Worthy kick!
Wonderful post. Thank you.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 06:45 PM
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22. Thank you, Anita. It's not cooked yet but it's bubbling.
Somehow I managed to read Alice Walker and Toni Morrison and Zola N. Hurston and Henry Louis Gates and I STILL had a big long hanging gap until understanding. It's not all that difficult. (slaps forehead)

That's okay. Today is today, what I can do.

Kick for a sane society and what we can do, TODAY.

:kick:
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:49 AM
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24. How wonderful.
Am thrilled to see your and UL's writing on the greatest page at the simultaneously. Have been so immersed in my own it's thrilling to know that thoughtful and insightful folks are to make a wickedly and pathetically bad pun. . .all on the same page, though with delightfully differing styles.

I do agree that too many cower in the face of the mantras of the so-called "Religious Right." The demonization of the 'Liberal" label by those masquerading as Christians and expousing the ruse of "family values" under an obvious veneer of blatant hatred of homosexuals, impoverished people, and desparate women is enough to make my head explode on a daily basis.

Though I consider myself to be far more of a Spiritualist than a Christian, I've studied enough theology to know at least a few things. War, torture, blatant deceipt, thievery, and umconscious desecration of and irreverance for G-d's creations are in fact the absolute antithesis of Christ's example. As expressed so beutifullly in the beatitudes, as well as the sermon on the mount. . .CHRIST WAS A LIBERAL. Paraphrasing here from ancient recollection "whosoever harms the least of us harms me."

Aaaand yes, instead of cowering when confronted with the disingenuious labels such as "socialist" stand firm and ask "so you prefer fascism?" Or when they say "tax & spend" throw "loot and waste" in their faces.

Mealy mouth "political correctness" will indeed only result in more of the same. We're up against deceitful criminals who will not be brought to justice through traditional or exclusively logicaly linear means.

I also feel as though the two party system is misrepresentative of the culture at large and have felt so for decades. Now with single party control of all three branches of government, the media, and the voting technology, I barely recognize this country anymore.

That is why I write and am glad to see you are doing so as well.

best

K&R-ed
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