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DaveColorado Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:31 AM
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Why are GOOpers so obsessed with sex?
A better question would be, why are they so obsessed with legislating what goes on in other peoples' bedrooms?

You see this pattern over and over in countless policy decisions from the FDA rejecting the morning after pill to the FCC fining CBS for trivial shit.

I thought Republicans were for smaller government?

I know it would be foolish for me to let these assholes determine my decision making, but it just makes me wonder what spawns this unhealthy, repressed behavior?

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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:33 AM
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1. They do seem to be fixated on it.
I'm not sure why. Some combination of thinking a natural function of the human body is "bad". Like, you know how if you think chocolate is really bad for you, you want it all the time and think about it and can't stay away from it? Sort of like that.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:05 AM
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30. Isn't the GOP "religious"?
What religion(s) spawn that backward thinking?

I don't think it's limited to "some" religious people on this issue, actually- I think it's a whole fucking lot of them, and I also think it's starting to be a flat-out dangerous trend.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:34 AM
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2. Because when they have people obsessing over other people's privates ...
... then nobody thinks to pay attention of the GOP and their cronies looting the treasury and wiping their collective asses with the Constitution.

We're so busy looking under each other's beds for dirt that we don't realize the house is being burnt down around our ears.


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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:35 AM
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3. Type 'A' personality?
Obsessive/compulsive control freaks that can't stand the thought of you doing something they don't approve of.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:38 AM
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9. That's not Type A. That's Fundamentalist.
Type A's are more controlling of their OWN behavior.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:47 AM
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16. That's why the question mark.
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 10:50 AM by Kierkegaard
I wasn't sure it would apply, seeing that in the only definitions I can locate, the condition isn't implicitly self-inflicted. Many republicans seem to posses an aggressive, intolerant demeanor that would appear to be ripe for imposing their will on others.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:35 AM
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4. I'm going to make a rash, sweeping statement . . .
It all comes down to their daughters and their wives. They (mostly men, mind you) have an unhealthy fascination with the sexual activities of their nubile female offspring and deep uncertainty over the fidelity of their spouses.

In short, they never made it all the way off the veldt.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:58 AM
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24. they want control so they can deal with their own insecurity
I really do think that's a huge part of it.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:35 AM
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5. Everybody is obsessed with sex.
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 10:37 AM by IMModerate
But freepers think it's a bad thing.

On edit: Breaking a commandment, fundies think that it's a sin for anybody, anywhere, to be having a better time than they are.

--IMM
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:36 AM
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6. Good point! n/t
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:39 AM
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10. Yours too. It's that control thing.
--IMM
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:36 AM
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7. Bill Clinton
Enough said?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:40 AM
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12. The GOP has been obsessing over what people do in their bedrooms
LONG before Clinton was around.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:38 AM
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8. Pain is the goal of Sadomasochists, so pleasure is bad
Freud viewed fascists as the anal-sadistic personality.

anal to him meant greed.. anal-retentive is the full term.

it appears as paired with SM. That is, love of pain.

So, GOP is populated by the analsadists among us . They relish pain, and abhorr pleasure.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:40 AM
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11. They hate women
and feel threatened by anyone that challenges the patriarchy.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:04 AM
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28. They ARE women too.
This isn't men vs women. It's fundy vs everyone else.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:27 AM
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35. Maybe. But I don't see enough
support from the Democratic Party for protecting women. Where is the outcry about denying life saving vaccines to women? Where is the outcry when the Dem Senate campaign pushes out the prochoice candidate? If we stand together, we can defeat them but we have to stand together.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:40 AM
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13. Because they aren't getting any.
Or at least not the kind of fun, kinky, toe twitching, spine tingling sex that they crave. Most were brought up to think of sex as something evil, and they married spouses who thought the same thing. Repression brings out the weirdest things in people, and I think that is what we're seeing at work here.

By God, if they can't get a blow job, then damnit nobody's getting a blow job:eyes:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:40 AM
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14. Because they like it more than they want to admit.
They like to think about sex but they feel guilty if they do. So, they think about ways other people should not be having sex or thinking about sex and how to stop other people from having sex or thinking about sex and how to punish other people for having sex or thinking about sex and how to make sure that if other people are having sex they are doing it properly and after marriage and without birth control and for having babies and not just for fun because after all having sex for fun would be wrong and thinking about sex for fun would be wrong. But, thinking about not having sex and thinking of ways to ruin sex for people who admit they like having sex is OK, so that's what the people who feel guilty about having sex do. And when they finish thinking about ways to ruin sex for people who admit they like having sex and who think it's OK to like having sex then they don't need to feel guilty about the fact that they are thinking about sex in one form or another constantly -- instead of just having good relationships and sex as a good part of those good relationships and living healthy, creative lives that include some moments in the day in which they are not thinking about sex or stopping other people from having or thinking about sex. So, legislating what goes on in other peoples' bedrooms is a wonderful way to sublimate your own 24-hour per day preoccupation with sex -- without feeling guilty about it.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:43 AM
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15. Their obsession + all the weird spam for help getting up
makes me wonder...
A) Perhaps we need to address the issue of better mental health care so wingers can work their problems out in the privacy of their therapists offices instead of on us via public policy.

B) Why would all those products be pushed on spam if somebody didn't buy them now and then? Are wingers so insecure or just plain dysfunctional that they fall for that crap? Would certainly explain A LOT. Universal medical coverage may be of help!

C) How come Living Large Bob can go on TV with his new swelling of pride so he can get some well earned respect around the neighborhood, but people (particularly female type people?) in some states can't have sex toys in their own bedrooms?

D) Where does the cucumber cartel stand on states rights vs personal liberty?

E) How can we teach wingers to appreciate the concept of consensual sex between adults?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:47 AM
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17. Shrinking government so it can fit through your keyhole
Also this whole thing has its roots in Puritanism and the patriarchial social system. I could go on and on about that but basically it is woman's fault that humanity was cast out of the Garden of Eden (seriiously that is a part of this) and that instead of worshipping women (matriarchial--pagans, Native North American Indians, etc.) they are to be punished and kept down.
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DaveColorado Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:50 AM
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18. I think there's truth to this:
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 10:51 AM by DaveColorado
"Repression brings out the weirdest things in people, and I think that is what we're seeing at work here."


I personally also think if Al Quada members were getting laid often, they would just give up on blowing up shit.

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:15 AM
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34. Evidently, Scalia agrees with that to a degree
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/15/AR2006031502798.html?nav=rss_nation/special

"Anyone who thinks the country's most prominent lawyers reflect the views of the people needs a reality check," he said during a speech to New England School of Law students and faculty at a Law Day banquet on Wednesday night.

The 70-year-old justice said the public, through elected legislatures _ not the courts _ should decide watershed questions such as the legality of abortion.

Scalia decried his own court's recent overturning of a state anti-sodomy law, joking that he personally believes "sexual orgies eliminate tension and ought to be encouraged," but said a panel of judges is not inherently qualified to determine the morality of such behavior.

How long before wingers in need of getting laid start making threats against Tony?
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:51 AM
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19. Penis envy.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:52 AM
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20. The varieties of human sexuality is interesting, to say the least
They just feel guilty for being interested, so they blame those who don't feel guilty.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:54 AM
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21. "I thought Republicans were for smaller government?"
That was the mantra they used to seize power. It turns out that they love big intrusive government and exploding out-of-control deficits.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:56 AM
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22. they don't want smaller gov't
that's like saying they're fiscally conservative, whilst they've run up the hugest deficits in our history.

They don't want smaller gov't - what they want is gov't *where* they want it - up our a**es and in all our personal business - email, internet, medical and financial info, sex lives, bedrooms, etc. bu$hco wants to access and CONTROL it all. They want to control YOU - and ram their "morality" down your throat.

There are other factions in the world like that. The Taliban, for instance...
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:57 AM
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23. Sex translates for them as "morality"
Having sex is immoral. Collateral damage is not... They don't even realize how hypocritical they are.
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:00 AM
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25. They're like elderly, maiden Sunday school teachers.
Dan Quayle always struck me as that kind of person: "Cluck, cluck, cluck -- so and so is sleeping here and there, having a baby out of wedlock, caught a disease she/he deserves..."

They're the "terribly moral" old ladies in the church I grew up in who didn't have much going on in their lives so they titillated themselves with every salacious detail of every salacious rumor, real or imagined, that came their way. Naturally, they'd repressed their sexual natures for so long they lived in sheer terror of anything that might cause a tingle "down there."
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:02 AM
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26. It's just not sex
It's cheap, trashy, kinky sex that they seem to be obsessed with, Taboo forbidden sex makes their knees go weak also, how many times have reptiles been busted for shit they scream about other people doing, like incest, homosexuality, swapping, prostitution, things that they start frothing at the mouth about.
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:02 AM
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27. Both parties are obsessed with sex, but the GOP is obsessed with other
peoples sex while the Dem's are obsessed with their own like most people. For a party that 'hates' government they sure want the gov't to control your sex life & what is broadcast on tv, radio,internet,& the movies. Gov't is good then, but not for helping the poor which is what Jesus believe in. The fundies are just hypocrites, especially when you consider that some of the most notorious sex scandals are from them - remember Oral Roberts, Jim Baker, David Kornesh, Newt Gingrich, etc.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:05 AM
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29. They want gov't small enough to fit into the twin beds seperating
Ozzie from Harriet in true 'family values' type wholesome programming. It all started going downhill with Wilma Flintstone and Carol Brady, ya know
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Ufomammut Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:06 AM
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31. "Small gov" is code for....
A massive, serpentine oligarchy for the haves, while abolishing "big government" as it applies to social welfare and humanitarian funding.

The sexual obsession is due to respression. The right wing movement is grounded in psychological "projection;" impute to others that which they are most guilty of and unconsciously fearful of.
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:07 AM
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32. Freudian repression...period.
Recall that in classical Freudian theory, that which is repressed is going to "bubble" up to the surface from the deep unconscious where it is kept in its "forbidden" status. This doesn't necessarily mean that the repressed individual gains awareness of such material. Thus, "slip of the tongue" manifests, and while it may be uncomfortable (perhaps), it need not trigger much awareness of the repressed material -- also the use of "projection", by which the forbidden desire is attributed to others (who may then be demonized for their supposed evil fixation), assists in the covert "expression" of the energies of the repressed thoughts while saving the individual from the devastating effects of realizing their own "animalistic" desires.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:08 AM
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33. I'm convinced they're all just completely batshit crazy
I'm beginning to think most of our species is. I think it's quite possible we're a flawed animal and our dominance on this planet is a biological fluke because we don't seem to be able to make rational decisions as a species at all anymore.
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Ufomammut Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:33 AM
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36. Ha, yeah, that too...
When the pendulum swings too far in a skewered direction, you'd better pray there are enough brave people will the presence of mind and wherewithal to stand up and goddamn shout it from the rooftops and let the cowering stragglers, the in-denial apologists and the timid know that it's not only "okay" to do so, it's completely necessary and vital and is what democracy is about. No shit.
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