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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 02:52 AM
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Bush's Fireside Con Exploited IED Casualties
Edited on Sun Mar-12-06 03:18 AM by bigtree
Saturday was a big day in the Bush White House. Ret.Gen. Montgomery Meig (Monty) was coming over to show Bush and Rumsfeld (Donnydoohickey) the latest gadgets and gizmos that junior thought he understood would stop those nasty "lethal improvised explosive devices the terrorists in Iraq" were using "because they know they can't defeat us."

They were already training the troops to look inside animal carcasses for the handmade bombs, Bush understood. Also, the Pentagon's Army Lt. Col. Alan Hartfield, training officer for their Joint IED Defeat Task Force, was 'hard at work' teaching trainers a "holistic approach" to stopping roadside attacks, because, as Hartfield and other leaders had said, new technology is no "silver bullet."

Bush had to show America he could make peaceful his kidnapped Iraqi bride. He'd use his radio address to the nation, his fireside chat, to throw the U.S. citizens a bone before the meeting.

"We're harnessing every available resource, the ingenuity of our best scientists and engineers, and the determination of our military to defeat this threat _ and we're not going to rest until this danger to our troops has been removed," Bush said as he addressed the nation.

But, it would turn out to be more of the same old, same old. Bryan Whitman, a spokesman for Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, who would be one of the briefers at the White House IED meeting, said there are no new technological breakthroughs to report to the president at this time.

Army Lt. Gen. Russel L. Honore, commander of 1st U.S. Army, had staged a similar IED summit with observers and trainers from his command, for two days, discussing ways to stop IEDs. Even though the president says the increased use of the bombs meant we were winning . . . he had an idea that he felt topped all of the others.

Honore reportedly feels the military should incorporate a chapter on IEDs into the Common Tasks Training manuals used by every soldier in basic training. That should boost morale among the new recruits since their Commander-in Chief says the increase in bombings, with their killing and maiming, means the terrorists "realize they can't defeat us directly in battle"

Christine Devries, spokeswoman for Meigs' group, said much progress has been made already. Nonetheless, Devries said detailed information about the casualty rate per IED explosion is considered too sensitive to release publicly because it could give the insurgents in Iraq new insights into their effectiveness. Hard to tell from the twenty-three hundred recorded U.S. casualties and the 17,000 injuries, I guess.

Bush's attitude is still "bring it on". If they happen to kill our soldiers or if they don't kill - whatever - the bombings tell him that victory is at hand. Bush's chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Peter Pace, said U.S. forces are finding more IEDs before they explode, but he wouldn't say how many.

"That means a lot of the work that's being done and a lot of the resources that you have allocated are having positive effects," Pace said. "But we have a lot of work to do in this regard." It took $1.2 billion in the 2005 budget for Pace's "positive effects" on IEDs, skyrocketing to $3.3 billion in the current budget, including $1.9 billion in an emergency war funding request.

Bush seemed to have a moment of doubt as he spoke to the nation in his radio address:

"Amid the daily news of car bombs and kidnappings and brutal killings," he said, "I can understand why many of our fellow citizens are now wondering if the entire mission was worth it." Bush then told those listening that the old man they pulled from his hidey-hole was worth the deaths and the sacrifices of our soldiers. "Saddam was an enemy of America, who shot at our airplanes . . ."

Did he say weapons of mass destruction again? Yeah, he did. (Sigh.)

"The security of our country is directly linked to the liberty of the Iraqi people." he continued. "This will require more difficult days of fighting and sacrifice, yet I am confident that our strategy will result in victory, and then our troops can come home with the honor they have earned."

I guess that means more soldiers will have to die from other "improvised explosive devices used by terrorists" before we can "defeat" them some more.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 02:57 AM
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1. Saddam shot at our airplanes?
With rubber bands from kites? This is too funny.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:05 AM
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2. if they kill you or if they don't kill you - whatever - they'll make you??
Stronger?

WTF does that mean?

This is a bizarro piece, link please,
on that quote? That could be quite a keeper for a Bushism
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:06 AM
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3. That's mine. Is it not reflected in his statements?
too much?
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:10 AM
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4. No, but too close to a real "Bushism"
He would have said.

Thought I had a keeper for a second.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:17 AM
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5. I'm changing it
Bush's attitude is still "bring it on". If they happen to kill our soldiers or if they don't kill - whatever - the bombings tell him that victory is at hand.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:27 AM
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6. link to final
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 06:45 AM
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7. This is totally crazy.
How do these people sleep at night? How can ANYONE rationalize what they have done?
I will never understand that. On a personal level, I screw up every once in awhile and then I go about doing what I can to undo any possible damage to other people. This crew just keeps it coming. Like that's going to help? Morals, people! MORALS!
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:24 AM
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8. How can they rationalize what they've done?
The same way that military commanders have always rationalized the killings of other human beings.

"THEY WERE JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS"

Don't expect morals from these men, even Honere is still one of Bush's generals in the end, no matter what he may have done during the Katrina debacle. We need to realize that the good generals like Shinseki are gone and all that is left are those who are no longer loyal to the Constitution or to the American people. The only generals left are those who have sworn loyalty to BushCo, so that they too can get a piece of the pie.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 12:23 PM
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12. Centcom responds to the WH summit meeting with a press release
3/12/2006

BAGHDAD – An Iraqi Explosive Ordnance Disposal team helped make a route east of Baghdad safer March 11 by ridding it of a roadside bomb found by Multi-National Division – Baghdad Soldiers.

Soldiers from 1st Battalion, 61st Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division, found a hollowed-out tree trunk containing wires, a 152 mm round and a remote control base while they were on patrol.

The disposal team responded to the scene and secured the round.

http://www.centcom.mil/sites/uscentcom1/Lists/Press%20Releases/DispForm.aspx?ID=2758

fine . . . only an infinite amount left to go . . .
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 01:52 PM
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14. That was my immediate thought.
Finding them is one thing. How about doing what it takes to not have them planted in the first place? For starters, get our people out.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:49 AM
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9. "Them damn insergints, they don't fight FAIR!"
"They refuse to meet us in Open Battle..."

We didn't have a clue how to fight a resistance war in Vietnam, either.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:33 AM
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10. He can't see that fighting the resistance is like scratching poison ivy
how about Bush realizing that imperialism doesn't work. We can't impose our democracy on Iraqis with our military and expect them to roll over, thank us, and ask for more..
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 12:01 PM
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11. Iraq chats
Warner Urges Bush To Copy FDR
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/27/politics/main1075811.shtml


Roosevelt did those chats at the same time he was censoring the press in the U.S. during WWI . . .
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 01:12 PM
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13. President Briefed by Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Task Force
Edited on Sun Mar-12-06 02:01 PM by bigtree
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
March 11, 2006



Stretch.

Q Mr. President, are you concerned, with reference to the IEDs, are you concerned that the sophisticated weaponry our troops are facing now might be coming from foreign, neighboring countries? And if so, what are our courses going about --

THE PRESIDENT: We're constantly gathering intelligence. We're monitoring influence. We are adjusting our tactics. We are . . .



And so, yes, we're interesting in negative influence; we're also interested in positive influence.

And my optimism is based upon reality on the ground . . .

I know we've got to do more work in the police forces. We have said that very clearly.

I know we're going to succeed if we don't lose our will.

Thank you all.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060311-1.html
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 01:53 PM
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15. Justs another Bush* dog and pony show. It's 24/7 terrorism.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 05:59 PM
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16. with a splash of fascism
thrown into the mix
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