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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:20 PM
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Pants on Fire: CA's POS SoS McPherson Responds to Diebold Petition
Thank you for your e-mail regarding Diebold's OS and TSX equipment and its certification with conditions for the 2006 elections.

Secretary McPherson shares your concern that we have only the most secure, reliable voting systems, and he is committed to ensuring the accuracy and integrity of every vote cast. That is why he has established the most stringent requirements for voting systems in the nation.

The recent Diebold certification decision comes after the touch screen and optical scan systems have met the most rigorous federal and state standards. In addition, both the independent panel of experts from the University of California and the federally-approved Independent Testing Authorities have indicated that the Diebold AccuVote Optical Scan and the AccuVote TSX systems can safely be used for our elections, with the additional security and use procedures we have in place in California. These stringent use procedures and security measures include requirements that the elections official reset the encryption key prior to programming any units; that each memory card have a permanent serial number assigned to it and be programmed in a secured facility under the supervision of the registrar of voters/registrar of voter’s staff; and that each unit be sealed with a serialized, tamper-evident seal. These security measures must be in place before the June 2006 election. For a more complete list of these enhanced security and use requirements, please visit our website at <http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/elections_vs.htm>

Secretary McPherson has established clearly articulated expectations and standards required of voting systems and their vendors so that all who wish to be considered for use in California now know, for the first time, exactly what will be expected of them.

The Secretary remains committed to ensuring the reliability and accuracy of every vote, and that is precisely why he has set such high performance criteria to ensure that the integrity of the vote has been protected. With these qualifications for our voting systems, we believe voters can have confidence in the electoral process and the equipment used to capture their votes.

Thank you again for your feedback and for taking the time to share your thoughts.

Sincerely,
Elections Web Mail Representative


What an unmitigated crock.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:24 PM
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1. Rhetorical question: So what was it that Kevin Shelley did again?
Some sexual peccadillo or marital infidelity or even "cooking the books"? Nothing as bad as CERTIFIYING DIE(die, die, elections)BOLD certainly.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:51 PM
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10. Kevin Shelley did nothing
He was totally exonerated.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:58 PM
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13. Look. It's bad enough without that disinfo.
Shelley was not "totally exonerated".

Unless you got a link I missed.

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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:23 PM
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18. Where is YOUR link?
Some reliable source please, rather than right wing crap about paperwork being improperly filed and Shelley's mailing out a voting rights brochure with his photo on it.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:57 PM
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23. What does a "reliable source" mean, in this context?
The crooked campaign $ story amounted to zero, with no charges filed.

But, the EAC alleged the SoS office screwed-up. They went after him, as did a state audit. Perhaps more than half the charges were debunked, not by Shelley, but others, including McPherson.

And many of the remaining issues can't be defended against because the paper work doesn't exist.


Here's a small summary:

http://electionupdates.caltech.edu/2005/12/eac-piles-on-federal-audit-report-of.html


And Shelley, in his own defense, said what?

The real "right wing crap" being spouted now is that Californians who are fighting for secure elections are really just partisans that are pissed the Dem SoS resigned. That's unfortunate.


Did they want his ass? I'd be surprised if they didn't.

I hope, no-expect, Sancho's, and every other fraud-fighter's books are in order.

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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 01:00 AM
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26. Shelley defended himself and denied the charges against him – yet you give
the likes of McPherson credit for “debunking” the charges.

How many times are you going to repeat the phony charge that Shelley didn’t defend himself?

The truth: He was being sued on both State and Federal levels.
He mortgaged his home to pay for his legal defense.
His mother fell gravely ill, was hospitalized and passed away – even before Shelley’s resignation could take effect.
Yet you have the gall to keep posting the accusation that he didn’t defend himself.

I asked for a reliable source, rather than a link to rightwing crap.
Michael Alvarez and MIT are extremely “conservative” and hardly reliable sources.
They even have a link to the uber-rethug “Election Center” on their Election Updates page.

Alvarez falsely claims in his article that Shelley used HAVA funds for “balloons” (!!!)
In the category, provided in the charges, as an example of what the funds might have been misused for, “balloons” was listed.
But, in fact, the money was spent on a pamphlet, informing voters that if they weren’t comfortable using the voting machines, they were entitled to use a paper or provisional ballot. The pamphlet had Shelley’s photo on it.
NOT BALLOONS! A VOTERS’ RIGHTS PAMPHLET.

Then there’s this crock:
Given the large amounts of money that have been handed out to the states under such a short period of time, it is excellent to see auditing of how those funds have been used (or in this case, misused). But on the other hand, it is disturbing to see so much misallocation and misuse of these funds; one wonders whether California would be in a much better position today regarding improving our electoral process had these funds been better spent. I also wonder, to the extent that voters and citizens are paying attention to the reports of the misallocation of HAVA funds in California, whether this will have any effect on their trust in governmental officials or their confidence in those who administer elections.


The approved use of HAVA funds is for election-stealing machines. Machines which MIT defends.

A more reliable analysis of the audit, posted months ago by Einsteinia, deserves to be reposted. (In next reply)

As for the new spin, by the reich-wing noise machine, about what motivates election reform activists ... Why do you care? They have proven themselves to be corrupt beyond comprehension. We’re supposed to fret over their latest false accusation?
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 01:02 AM
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27. Posted originally by Einsteinia:
Original post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=406202&mesg_id=406313

(Re: the right-wing media story on the audit, at the link below.)

Deconstruction of a Propaganda Piece

Why must we wait for another 60 days until we know thumbs up or down on the EAC findings? Why is this reported now? Is this a politically motivated scheme to send a chill to uppity Secretaries of States across the nation who dare not comply with the HAVA deadlines or decertify partisan voting equipment? Paranoid? Look at the current political situation and ask yourself whether due diligence under these circumstances should include looking behind doors. So, let's look at the timing, and ask: Why now? Right now when Secretaries of States are at a critical decision-making juncture with the Diebold equipment proving easily corruptible and HAVA deadlines looming. Why did they wait this long for their decision and announce it now, with the fine print reading that they'll let us know the true thumbs-up or down on Shelley in 60 days. 60 days will be a date AFTER the HAVA deadlines. They've had all this time and have already conducted their investigations, but they can't tell us anything except to send innuendo that things for our former Secretary of State look baaaaaaad!

Please read the whole article at: http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/news/13458667.htm

Deconstruction of Audit finds $3.8 million in election funds improperly spent

JENNIFER COLEMAN

Associated Press

SACRAMENTO -More than $3.8 million in federal election money was spent improperly or without required documentation by former Secretary of State Kevin Shelley, federal auditors said in a report released Wednesday.

First, to gain some perspective: $3.8 million out of $180 million is 2 percent. Second, notice the “OR” clause above. Let’s just say all but $2,000 in question fell into the required better paperwork category, and you’ll get why this is a very misleading newsflash. I refer to it as a newsflash, because lacks any news of substance. It is primarily a rehash of old news and merely invokes a dark prediction about what may come -- it suggests a new audit hearing was held but bases its findings largely on the previous CA hearing, and then offers no verdict.

The audit, commissioned by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission,

The “EAC,” which is the arm of the “Help America Vendor’s Act” which is charged with coming up with protocols and guidelines. The EAC has itself been tardy or non-compliant with the majority of its edicts. It is a council of four political appointees: 2 are republican and 2 are DINOS. Earlier this year, the Chair resigned in disgust because it had no funding. See: http://www.whoscounting.net/EAC.htm

confirms an earlier state audit of Shelley's handling of money given to California under the Help America Vote Act. It examined spending through 2004.

The foundation of this newsflash is the findings of an earlier audit, which at most showed a minor appearance of impropriety, as confirmed by the auditor’s office upon my telephone call inquiry to follow up with questions I had after having attended the audit hearing and after carefully reading through the audit report.

Auditors said about $3 million in spending lacked documentation, such as paying salaries for people who didn't submit time sheets, or was improperly awarded to consultants through no-bid contracts.

Paperwork problem: Shelley has admitted that he was overwhelmed with the barrage of new HAVA requirements and tried to delegate it to others, which obviously backfired.

The audit, conducted by the Department of the Interior's inspector general, another US government entity purged of “dissenters” also found another $777,502 was improperly spent on salaries, promotional memorabilia and other items that were unrelated to the Help America Vote Act.

Hmmmm, voter education pamphlets informing voters that if they lacked confidence in their paperless voting systems that they could request a paper ballot or provisional ballot, which had a picture of Shelley on the back. Why don’t do something productive like investigate our President for hiring political shills?

Congress passed the act in 2002 after the problems with voting machines and access to polling places that surfaced during the 2000 presidential election.

But who wrote HAVA? 3 out of 4 are heavily implicated in the Abramoff scandal.

California has received about $180 million in federal money to upgrade voting equipment and procedures. Federal authorities froze another $170 million after questions arose about Shelley's spending, money that was released in June after Shelley had been replaced.

Yes, please note that above: It was the Feds who froze the money and caused the CA election officials a colossal headache--NOT Shelley. To date, our CA election officials love to blame their problems on that darn Shelley. However, Shelley, too, had delayed money from being funneled directly into the gullets of partisan vendors when he finally realized that the activists were right--the machines were funky. Now, ironically, it is the CA election officials themselves who are begging Congress from the HAVA deadlines, because there are not yet any good options to purchase.

Shelley, a Democrat, denied wrongdoing but resigned in February after he was accused of mishandling the money, bending state hiring rules to reward political allies and accepting questionable campaign contributions.

Obviously Shelley was a fighter. But if you were in his shoes, could you continue the uphill battle with five government entities investigating you with no legal or financial assistance from the State? Be honest. Would you at some point feel despondent when your fellow democrats turn their backs on you --even when they were justified for fear they might get in the cross-hairs? Then, consider the personal toll on your family. Shelley resigned the day after his mother died. She had been quite healthy before this scandal, but succumbed to pneumonia in the midst of these stressful days. Here, Shelley, who had stood up on behalf of Californians against Diebold and boldly decertified much of their equipment, he who was the first Secty. of State with DRE equipment to mandate a paper trail, he who came up with 25 innovative safeguards until the paper trails could go into effect, and he who wanted to use some of the HAVA funds for poll worker college and voter education received no support, and in a bizarre moebius strip of logic, this is the No. 2 reason why people I speak to think he’s guilty: “If he weren’t guilty, people would have stood up for him.” And so what then, you might ask, is the No. 1 reason why people think he’s guilty: Because if he weren’t, the papers would have written about it? Hmmmm, do you mean the same papers that have refused to cover the election integrity scandal from the very beginning? The same media that refused to even mention the GAO heavy indictment against electronic voting systems? Getting back to this point about the audit hearing, if you actually went to the Audit Hearing or read the audit report, you’d know that his big crime was NOT spending money on funky voting equipment. With that the feds froze his funds and caused a lot of grief for election officials who still have to meet the HAVA deadlines with their “use it or lose it” clause, as well as the fact that the DOJ promised a visit for the non compliant

His successor, Republican Bruce McPherson, agreed with some of the audit's findings, but disputed the auditor's claim that about $2 million in no-bid consulting contracts were inappropriate.

McPherson obviously has some integrity.

Those contracts were cleared for no-bid awards by the state Department of General Services because of a tight deadline to bring California into compliance with the federal law, McPherson said in his response to the audit.

In addition, the office was facing unprecedented pressure from the combination of three elections - the first-ever recall election for a California governor in 2003, followed in 2004 by a presidential primary and a presidential general election, McPherson said.

The federal audit confirms the findings of the California Bureau of State Audits. A state audit in December 2004 found that federal money intended for voter outreach was used by Shelley to pay for consultants who attended partisan Democratic events and promoted Shelley's political achievements.

After an audit for an entire year there were six events, which came under scrutiny. These events were on the timeslips of outside consultants who sought to comply with the outreach component of HAVA. Two were for roundtables that were primarily attended by republicans and the others were for exclusively democrat events. The sum total of this was under $2,000 (and probably under $1,000).

That audit said Shelley poorly managed the money and failed to properly oversee his staff and consultants. It suggested 17 changes in how the secretary of state's office implements the Help America Vote Act.

This, too, is an over broad generalization that boils down to sloppy office management. On page 5 of the Audit report these are listed as the “Highlights” of all the errors. Please read the long, long list of six items and think about our republican party. If you're like me, you'll wonder, "Where's the meat?"

Office of the
Secretary of State
Help America Vote Act of 2002

Presentation by

Elaine M. Howle
California State Auditor

January 10, 2005

Audit Highlights -page 5

1 The Office of the Secretary of State’s (office) insufficient planning and poor management practices hampered its efforts to implement the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) provisions promptly.

2 The office’s disregard for proper controls and its poor oversight of staff and consultants led to questionable uses of HAVA funds.

3 The office avoided competitive bidding for many HAVA purchases paid with HAVA funds by improperly using a Department of General Services exemption from competitive bidding and by not following the State’s procurement policies.

4 The office bypassed the Legislature's spending approval authority when it executed consultant contracts and then charged the associated costs to its HAVA administration accounts.

5 The office failed to disburse HAVA funds to counties for the replacement of outdated voting machines within the time frames outlined in its grant application package and county agreements.

6 The State’s chief elections office lacks a policy that strictly prohibits partisan activities.


McPherson told auditors his office has complied with most of those recommendations and is working to implement the rest.

A spokesman for Shelley said many of the changes recommended by the state auditor were started by Shelley.

"As the current administration points out, the office of Secretary of State Kevin Shelley was overburdened by a cyclone of unprecedented and historic forces," said Shelley's spokesman, Sam Singer. "This audit is reflective of the difficult circumstances the Shelley administration faced."

Too bad most people won’t have read down this far nor will they have any context to understand it.
State Sen. Dave Cox, who requested the state audit, said the federal report released Wednesday indicates that Shelley tried to politicize his office.

Let me guess, Sen. Dave Cox is partisan--from the opposing party?

"Todays audit by the EAC shows that while he was secretary of state, Mr. Shelley and his operatives ignored clear policies in order to hire political operatives," Cox, R-Fair Oaks, said in a statement. "They improperly used taxpayer dollars for questionable and improper purchases of self-promotional items and other materials."

Look who is telling us this--this political entity, which even the very conservative Doug Chapin of Electionline.org said was “ad hoc tribunal without real legal authority" to perform and trial of Shelley, Could they be just a bit more specific today as to what they deemed self-promotional items. Could it again be a picture of the Secretary of State on a voter education pamphlet? Is this partisan appointed committee trying to lecture democrats on political propaganda at the taxpayer’s expense?

The Election Assistance Commission will review the federal audit and issue a final report to the state within 60 days, commission spokeswoman Jeannie Layson said. She said it is premature to speculate about possible remedies or penalties.

Why the delay? Could it be because there are no findings, but it’s politically expedient to send this newsflash today to put a chill on any other uppity Secretaries of States who might be thinking of delaying their compliance with the end of the year HAVA deadlines. Or even more politically opportune to scare Secretaries of States who might be emboldened by the recent Diebold hack tests to try to spend their HAVA Jonas for anything other than their funky election equipment?

In the campaign finance probe surrounding Shelley, San Francisco real estate agent Julie Lee is facing eight felony charges that she laundered a state grant for a community center into Shelley's 2002 campaign. Lee has pleaded not guilty.

Very important in a propaganda piece to invoke unrelated stories to cast a suspicious pall over this man’s credibility. Never mind that Attorney General Lockyer exonerated Shelley from any wrongdoing in this case. And for heaven’s sakes, do NOT mention the fact that Shelley was the first in the Secretary of State with paperless voting equipment to mandate paper trails. Do not mention that he boldly decertified Diebold. To mention those facts might not seem “fair and balanced.”

Singer said Shelley remains "quite active in both business and politics" and has not been questioned in the Lee case.

Good limp statement to conclude with--IF you’ve decided you want to perpetuate the deliberate misinformation about Kevin Shelley. And in my opinion this propaganda tactic is the only scandal of described in this article.


What little integrity McPherson showed at that time has obviously vanished.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 05:05 AM
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28. Not gall. Just an interest in understanding.
Like I say, you can focus the charges that were debunked, or you can face the ones that weren't, even if it pops your HAVA balloon. There are people that parrot "totally exonerated". Really? By Einstenia's post? So it's settled and we're credible?

You take issue with links I post, and you offer what? :shrug: Have I overlooked something?

Among the available links is the EAC report, itself.

http://www.eac.gov/docs/CA%20audit.pdf

Like I said, perhaps more than half the charges were debunked, not by Shelley who didn't show up to the hearing, but others, including McPherson. But you were correct in pointing out he sent an attorney to the hearing. Shelley did not appear. Is that correct? He resigned instead. Is it that unreasonable to assume that if things were in reasonable order he could appear without mortgaging the house and resigning?

And I mentioned McPherson to say, yeah, even he said half of the allegations was bullshit. Or some fraction, anyway. Einsteinia's post you paste below admits as much. She just seems think it's not of much concern, and like many, that despite all this highlighting Shelley will get us some mileage. I don't agree. We'd like to have that on McPherson. Wouldn't we?

snip

"While I have made errors that I deeply regret, I have never, ever done so with the intent of subverting the law or benefiting myself," Shelley said during a news conference outside his San Francisco home with his wife, Dominique, at his side.

snip

Shelley said he was confident he would be cleared of wrongdoing in several ongoing state and federal investigations.

snip

Shelley apologized Friday to his supporters and staff.

"In too many cases, my intense drive to accomplish good things has been tarnished by my impatience, and I have allowed myself to direct that impatience at individuals when it should have been directed elsewhere," he said. "I have no one to blame for this but myself."

snip

http://www.calvoter.org/news/blog/2005_02_01_blogarchive.html#110762100338261216


Does that make him guilty? Nope. Is it reassuring to you?

So there two more links. Just doing the best I can here, Nick. I've asked you for some.

You put up Einstenia defending him with.

"Paperwork problem: Shelley has admitted that he was overwhelmed with the barrage of new HAVA requirements and tried to delegate it to others, which obviously backfired."

Ya got anything else? Shelley could use some help here.

Or we could talk about the potential of lawsuits challenging the certification of Diebold, among others.

Whaddya say, Nick?

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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 04:03 AM
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32. “Not gall”?! In fact, SHOCKING gall.
You continue to repeat that phony charge, regardless of the evidence refuting it.

What charges against Shelley -- of any actual wrongdoing (not trumped up rethug BS) -- are there?

He was unable to keep up with the legal expenses and had to mortgage his home. He resigned when his mother fell ill.
You’ve never heard of anyone being overwhelmed with legal expenses because the other side has endlessly deep pockets?
Especially taxpayer money, as in this case. Are you being disingenuous or naïve?

When Shelley denied and fought the charges against him, that wasn’t enough for you? Only when McPherson declared them invalid is when you considered them “debunked”?

Here is another excerpt from Kim Alexander’s Weblog that you left out, ALSO from Saturday, February 5:

Shelley said he was confident he would be cleared of wrongdoing in several ongoing state and federal investigations.

While not being charged with breaking state or federal laws, Shelley found himself embroiled in controversy over mishandling $46 million in Help America Vote Act funds and charges by ex-employees of temper tantrums and a hostile work environment.


That’s right, he was charged with having a bad temper. :eyes:
Shelley’s real mistake was not firing the staff left from his rethug predecessor.
The "mishandled" $46 million, which turned into $3.8 million, amounted to paperwork not being properly filed and Shelley's mailing of a voter rights pamphlet with his photo on the back.

Oh, and this entry, just 17 days later:

Tuesday, February 22
Kevin Shelley's mother has passed away
Last Friday, outgoing Secretary of State Kevin Shelley's mother, Thelma Shelley, passed away in San Francisco.

Mrs. Shelley was rushed to the hospital on February 2 with respiratory failure, and remained hospitalized until her death, according to the Associated Press obituary.

Kevin Shelley resigned as Secretary of State on February 4, two days after his mother was hospitalized. Many news reports of his resignation noted that he was very emotional during the Feb. 4 announcement when he mentioned his mother. It was not widely known at that time that his mother was gravely ill.


As screwed up as this country is, at least our judicial system acknowledges that innocence cannot be proven, and the burden of proof is on the accuser. “Innocent until proven guilty”, remember that? So where is your proof of guilt?

You are grasping at straws to find fault with Kevin Shelley -- on thread after thread, for over a year.
I find myself wondering why that is. ... And I seriously doubt that I’m the only one.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 02:17 PM
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33. Sorry your shocked.
And of course I cite the state and EAC audits, because, afterall, they ARE the charges over which he left. Not Ms. Lee, or Shelley's "bad temper" that I "left out" out of sense that it was not particularly at issue.

I cite McPherson saying many of the charges in the reports aren't true because he's the only one who reported that, other than Einstenia and Shelley. If anyone else made a defense, let me know.

"He was unable to keep up with the legal expenses and had to mortgage his home" isn't a defense, to me, even if it is to you. You KNOW we'd have a field day if McPherson was in similar straights.

I appreciate you answering a question I posed on another thread when I asked if anyone went digging to see who it was in the SoS office that screwed the books for which Shelley was hung. I got zero reply to that question, so I thank you for citing, "Shelley’s real mistake was not firing the staff left from his rethug predecessor." I think that would have been a very good idea. Who were those people, and where are they now. And what dirt is there on San Diego's Cox who helped start the drive against Shelley? Any one look? And Perra, the "DINO"...what about her?

I asked, too, "is it that unreasonable to assume that if things were in reasonable order he could appear without mortgaging the house and resigning?" Perhaps you think it is.

Doubt my sincerity if you must. I could, but don't, doubt the sincerity of those who remain upset over Shelley's resignation. It seems to me it has given evoting apologists an excuse saying that reformer are merely partisans pissed that Shelley left.

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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #1
14. What Shelley did: He protected our votes and stood in the way of
rethuglican election-stealing.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:08 PM
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15. And

After decertifying all of Diebold's machines, he recertified some of them saying the Bev GEMS hack could be secured against through BoE oversight. Correct?

Nobody talks about that.

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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:19 PM
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17. Link?
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:39 PM
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21. Do you want to help me sort it out?
So that we're both about facts, not MEME's?

I was confused to hear it, but these links bear out equipment status.

Both pdf

Here's where they were decertified.

http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/ks_dre_papers/decert1.pdf


And here's what was used in Nov 2004. The TS is listed.

http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/voting_systems/voting_systems_november_2004.pdf

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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:25 PM
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2. I got that email and it made me grrrr. So I sent him another.

Thanks for your response to my email.

I am still troubled by a particular aspect of Diebold's status. Your email to me states, "The recent Diebold certification decision comes after the touch screen and optical scan systems have met the most rigorous federal and state standards."

The independent panel of experts from the University of California that you go on to cite have stated, unambiguously, that the machines DO NOT meet federal standards.

From their report:

"Interpreted code is contrary to standards: Interpreted code in general is prohibited by the 2002 FEC Voluntary Voting System Standards, and also by the successor standard, the EAC's Voluntary Voting System Guidelines due to take effect in two years. In order for the Diebold software architecture to be in compliance, it would appear that either the AccuBasic language and interpreter have to be removed, or the standard will have to be changed."

It seems you should have known that, and that you should not have claimed otherwise in your email.


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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:30 PM
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6. I think that it is LTTE time
All you'll get is another bunch of lies!
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. I think that it is LTTE time
All you'll get is another bunch of lies!
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:26 PM
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3. Boilerplate Blah (X3)
Translated: "Go Fuck Yourselves. Thank you for shopping Diebold."
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:29 PM
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4. I got the same email
I've been pondering how to respond. Anyone have a website I can go to when I get home for info on the California tests that were done? I would appreciate it.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:36 PM
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8. Here's a good article.
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:40 PM
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9. Great, thanks!
I'll get on it as soon as I get home. I've emailed him about 4 or 5 times. This is the first time I've gotten any response at all and its a bunch of BS! Thanks again. :pals:
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:29 PM
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5. I got the same lies!
and I had the same reaction!!!!!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:53 PM
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11. Arnold's punk is just doing his job!
The people of California should take to the streets!
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:53 PM
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12. I trashed mine
Fucking asshole. (McPhersonm not you.)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:08 PM
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16. I'm really concerned about the next elections. Is there any
statewide movement or plan to get observers at all the precincts. Also, who is going to audit the absentee ballots?
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:28 PM
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19. After I received this email
I wasn't sure if I could reply to the e addy, but I did anyway. I am also unsure why I received the email since I requested to unsubscribe months ago. Besides which, I no longer live in CA.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:33 PM
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20. People who received this had signed/sent the email from
CA State Senator Debra Bowen, asking that McBastard reverse his decision to re-certify Diebold.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:40 PM
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22. I have not received an email from Debra Bowen
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:28 PM
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24. The link to her McPherson email was posted on DU.
It was a take-action item. Are you sure you didn't sign it? I can't imagine why else McPherson would be sending you his reply.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:01 PM
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25. If I would have seen the post
I most certainly would have signed. But I din't see the post.

His office did have my email address (I used to live in CA), but I got sick of his emails, so I unsubscribed months ago.

Maybe he din't "unsubscribe" me?

Whatever happened, I did respond to his current email forcefully. And I am sure I am not alone in my anti-DRE response.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 05:36 AM
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29. K & R. Here are **LINKS** to some Feb. threads on the "POS SoS's" actions:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x413258
thread title (2-17-06 Election Reform): SHIT!!! Diebold to be certified in CA ... with yet-unstated conditions.
Comment/excerpt: Report from an email from CA State Senator Debra Bowen’s office “Apparently the SOS announced in a conference call with county elections officials today that he’s going to certify the Diebold machines for 2006 “with conditions,” but he didn’t lay out the conditions just yet.” Reply #10 has a link to the CA SOS’s press release: http://ss.ca.gov/executive/press_releases/2006/06_021.pdf

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x458237
thread title (2-17-06 GD): Well, it seems Rove & Republicans have succeeded-They now have California!
Comment/excerpt: Cites SF Chronicle article: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/02/17/state/n175845S67.DTL “California Secretary of State Bruce McPherson gave conditional approval Friday for counties to use two voting machines produced by Diebold Election Systems that he had previously questioned.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=141x19244
thread title (2-17-06 State of California Forum): McPherson WILL TRY TO CERTIFY DIEBOLD FOR 2006
Comment/excerpt: sfexpat2000 cites the info in the first thread in this list and says “My dear neighbor DUers: I'm still collecting facts -- like, when is he fixing to do that and does the plan include a recountable paper ballot? Please, please, check this forum starting Monday night. Please put your networks on "alert". I just sent two emails to the L.A. and SF Greens to be looking for an action. If you have a group of more than one, put THEM on alert. We will need them next week. WE WILL NOT BECOME OHIO. WE FIGHT THIS BS! Please check in and let me know you are on board. THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE CALIFORIA. WE WON'T LET THEM…”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2117013
thread title (2-18-06 LBN): 2-17-06: BREAKING: Calif. Sec. State certifies entire Diebold product line
Comment/excerpt: Excerpt: “…Citizens: Instructions are provided in this article. Red flag: Meet bull
THE RED FLAG: Today California Secretary of State Bruce McPherson certified Diebold's entire product line, including the TSx touchscreen machine with its "toilet paper roll" paper trail -- you know, the design that removes the privacy of your vote. He also approved the Diebold optical scan system, knowing it can be hacked, and he approved the Diebold GEMS system, knowing it can be hacked, and all accessories and accompaniments. The system was approved despite 100 percent public opposition and despite not having the ITA report back. (Welcome to Black Box America.)
YOU'RE THE BULL: It's time for you and everyone you know to make phone calls for subpoenas!....”


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x459769
thread title (2-18-06 GD): Alert to all of DU: Diebold/Bush junta to rig elections in California
Comment/excerpt: MAJOR COMPILATION of articles relating to the Diebold certification controversy. Excerpt - first paragraph of introduction: “Below is an assortment of articles regarding Diebold shill Bruce McPherson's sudden re-certification of Diebold election systems in California yesterday. McPherson is a Republican Schwarzenegger APPOINTEE to the Secretary of State's office, after our Democratic, ELECTED Secretary of State Kevin Shelly was forced to resign on bogus corruption charges last year (Shelley had sued Diebold and decertified the worst of their election theft machines prior to the 2004 election--and got whacked for it.) .”
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 05:41 AM
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30. I got this email too
I am on Bowden's email list and had signed all the emails to McPherson (and sent a few of my own as well.)

I don't get how he can say all the independent testers approved of the machines. Last I had heard, he postponed the tests and they were never done. Or did I miss something? I haven't been keeping up on this as well as I should have.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 02:48 AM
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31. The "testing", such as it is, has been completed.
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