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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:28 PM
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UAE Onine News Org. Says Ports Deal Not Dead: UAE Finances U.S. Debt!! -->
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 03:59 PM by Dr. Jones
BINGO! Now I know one possible reason why this is so damn important to Chimpy! If this deal doesn't go through, all his gross spending on his war of choice will crush the U.S. economy on HIS WATCH!! The question is, why do we have a country who has financed terrorism and harbored terrorists financing our debt? Do they have us by the balls or WHAT?

This article is STRANGE. After I heard that DP World relinquished its port operations to an American company, I checked around to see if this news was reflected in any UAE news outlets. What I found was pretty interesting. This article is dated TODAY. And DP World said "nothing has changed" and that they are "not at the point" where they would relinquish the ports deal. So what made them GET to that point?

And why is DP World the "savior" in this second instance, the first being when they "gave us" a 45-day extension to investigate? Why is a foreign company dictating American business and national security matters? Or is Bush himself SO wrapped up in trying to please and reward the UAE and SO wrapped up in his business deals that he has no compunction with making backroom deals with a shady state-owned and run company?

Something STINKS, and I'm not sure whether it's coming from the White House, the UAE, or BOTH.



Dubai Ports World presses on with port takeover
(Reuters)
9 March 2006

DUBAI - Dubai Ports World is pressing ahead with a takeover that gives it control of six major US ports despite a Congress committee vote to block the deal, sources familiar with the deal said on Thursday.

Government and company officials in the United Arab Emirates declined comment on Wednesday's vote by US lawmakers to block the deal on the grounds that handing the ports over to a Gulf Arab state-owned firm would threaten US national security.

But the sources said the vote had not taken Dubai Ports any closer to relinquishing the six ports at the center of a political firestorm. 'The vote in the House of Representatives has not change anything in that respect. We are not at that point,' one Dubai-based source said.

Analysts said the political furor was bound to provoke businesses in the world's biggest oil exporting region, which is an increasingly important source of financing for the huge US current account deficit. 'It's American double standards. Do you think that businesses and governments here won't react and even retaliate?' said Wadah Al Taha of the National Bank of Abu Dhabi.

Source: http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/theuae/2006/March/theuae_March303.xml§ion=theuae


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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:49 PM
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1. self-kick - added comments
:kick:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:51 PM
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2. lovely.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:24 PM
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37. But but but,....the CM keeps telling us it's a "dead deal".
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 07:25 PM by Just Me
:eyes: Oh, there is so much wool being produced.
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:51 PM
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3. self-delete
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 03:53 PM by phoebe
n/t
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:56 PM
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4. kick ... n/t
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:16 PM
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5. Everyone at DU – Wake up - Bush has NOT given up yet, this....….
......deserves a :kick:
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:38 PM
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40. I haven't been celebrating at all -- I knew there would be some
un-reported facts and details.

I thought it was very strange that Warner was the one to announce it to start with. In all the world, Warner, who was already a Bush admin cheerleader on the deal.

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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:18 PM
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6. LINK ISN'T WORKING RIGHT - HELP - - nt
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:23 PM
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8. here is a working link
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 04:36 PM by stop the bleeding
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:28 PM
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11. Rats. Neither link is working for me. any ideas? nt
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:29 PM
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12. I don't know what is happening with the link
- one minute it works and the next it doesn't
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:36 PM
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18. Now it is working I promise
:9
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:45 AM
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48. Here's another link just in case....
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:48 PM
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26. here is a snip...
Dubai Ports World presses on with port takeover
(Reuters)

9 March 2006



DUBAI - Dubai Ports World is pressing ahead with a takeover that gives it control of six major US ports despite a Congress committee vote to block the deal, sources familiar with the deal said on Thursday.


Government and company officials in the United Arab Emirates declined comment on Wednesday's vote by US lawmakers to block the deal on the grounds that handing the ports over to a Gulf Arab state-owned firm would threaten US national security.

But the sources said the vote had not taken Dubai Ports any closer to relinquishing the six ports at the center of a political firestorm.

'The vote in the House of Representatives has not change anything in that respect. We are not at that point,' one Dubai-based source said.

Analysts said the political furor was bound to provoke businesses in the world's biggest oil exporting region, which is an increasingly important source of financing for the huge US current account deficit.


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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:56 PM
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28. another snip from the end
Dubai Ports officials said they were pushing ahead with plans to integrate British ports group P&O which runs the US ports. A Dubai Ports spokesman said the company would soon announce the de-listing of P&O now that shareholders had approved the $6.8 billion takeover.

Dubai Ports Chairman Sultan Ahmed Bin Sulayem and Chief Executive Mohammed Sharaf fly to London this week to discuss integration of the two companies which make up the world's third largest ports group.

'We are evaluating the situation,' Bin Sulayem said.

The UAE is a close ally of Washington and a frequent port of call for American warships. Concerns are growing that the fallout from the ports row will affect US economic ties with the Gulf.

UAE Economy Minister Sheikha Lubna Al Qassimi said last week the furor could prompt other countries to divert funds away from the United States.

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:18 PM
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7. As I stated earlier, the BFEE probably offered to create a shell,...
,...company so that Dubai will still get the benefits of the deal.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:46 PM
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25. Carlyle Grp-Halliburton-KBR-Big Oil clusterfuck, I tell ya
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:55 PM
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27. Or, they could just make one up,...still controlled by Dubai but with an,.
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 04:56 PM by Just Me
,...American facade. It's easy as hell to create an American company,...you and I could do it.

This deal is not dead. There is no evidence whatsoever that Dubai isn't going to get this deal. NONE!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 05:06 PM
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33. Well, lookie here,...CARLYLE GROUP DIRECTLY TIED TO DUBAI
INTERNATIONAL CAPITAL!!!

http://www.dubaiic.com/portfolio.htm

Bad, bad, bad, bad BushCO!!!! Tsk Tsk Tsk!!!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:23 PM
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9. I'm nominating. That IS one freakin' strange article!!!!
:wow:
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:27 PM
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10. **************Link not working - Here is one that is *********
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 04:35 PM by stop the bleeding
Dubai Ports World presses on with port takeover

I don't know what is happening with the link - one minute it works and the next it doesn't
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:31 PM
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14. self delete
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 04:35 PM by stop the bleeding


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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:32 PM
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15. self delete
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 04:35 PM by stop the bleeding


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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:33 PM
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16. It's been moved
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:35 PM
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17. cool - thank you I updated my posts n/t
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:37 PM
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19. ATTENTION EVERYONE this link works - hurry get article- they might......
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 04:38 PM by Minnesota Libra
......be in the process of trying to remove it. Hang on to it on hard drive just to be safe.

edited for clarity: the above link works.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:43 PM
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47. Did a screenshot, saved to hard drive Thanks! n/t
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:30 PM
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13. Dubai, China and Japan OWN us.
:(
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:43 PM
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20. My take: Bushco and the UAE took a long look at their "big
picture" - the massive defense contracts with the UAE, military staging facilities, etc. - and in light of the clear intent of Congress, they decided losing a few millions in North American terminal contracts was a good trade off and a way to save face. I would assume the UAE "directed" DP World to divest N American operations. Nice little cover for Mr. Bush as well. He was going to get walloped in Congress over this. I agree, it's still not over and the devil's in the details, but financially it's a drop in the bucket to the UAE.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:45 PM
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23. * no doubt gave his UAE puppeteers the old, "I didn't know" line
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:45 PM
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24. Oh, I think Dubai is still in the deal.
They're just gonna' get some cover from BushCO.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 05:06 PM
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32. I wouldn't be surprised, tell the truth.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:43 PM
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21. The other aspect, allowing Dubai to strong arm us, is the port for,...
,...our Navy ships. PNAC would be damaged if it loses those ports.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:43 PM
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22. I sent this to KO
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:59 PM
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29. More from the end of the article:
The UAE is a close ally of Washington and a frequent port of call for American warships. Concerns are growing that the fallout from the ports row will affect US economic ties with the Gulf.

UAE Economy Minister Sheikha Lubna Al Qassimi said last week the furor could prompt other countries to divert funds away from the United States.

American businesses in the UAE warned on Wednesday that trade worth more than $8 billion between the United States and the United Arab Emirates could be in jeopardy.


http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/theuae/2006/March/theuae_March303.xml§ion=theuae


Wonder if this is the tipping point for the BFEE's carefully tended, decades-old garden of traitorous financial corruption that is destroying our country and its resources.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 05:02 PM
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30. I HAVE SCREEN SHOTS IF NEED BE - the link keeps going out
and I am afraid that they are trying to move it or bury it.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 05:02 PM
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31. Better link? Try this.
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 05:02 PM by spanone
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 05:08 PM
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34. not working..try this?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 06:30 PM
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36. .
:kick:
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 05:42 PM
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35. Declare all of Iraq "A Port" and hand it to DPW
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:21 PM
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38. Stupid Republicans. It's like they painted us all in a corner, and it
was a paint by the numbers floor designed by our enemies.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:35 PM
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39. If they didn't have their greedy noses stuck so far up the butts of,...
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 08:36 PM by Just Me
,...super-wealthy corporacrats, our country and this world may actually have a damn chance at finding a path towards relative peace and stronger democracies.

How the hell can the Republicans claim "moral clarity" when their entire being and attention is ALWAYS drawn to greenbacks? These people are horrifying models for our kids and shameful representatives of our country to the world. They make us all look like stingy, greedy, barbaric monsters.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:41 PM
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41. And of course, the whole situation demonstrates PERFECTLY
why foreign port ownership is a HUGE national security issue. If they (UEA) can threaten to do us in economically because they get pissed with us, it's a HUGE national security issue.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:47 PM
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42. There's another aspect to this that should not be overlooked.
U.S. multi-national corporations have been exploiting countries around the world in much the same way EXCEPT if they don't get their way, somehow they manage to invoke U.S. Military activities.

The American people REALLY need to grasp an understanding of exactly how these heartless corporacrats have spread horrific economic oppression inflaming the hatred we see directed towards us from around the globe. That information gives new meaning to the events of 9/11.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:56 AM
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50. That's because you assume
that national security means security of the American people. It has always been the security of corporations and their bidders - i.e. the alliance between the the economic elite, political elite and military elite.

The irony of the exposure re this port deal is that the anti-globalization and neo-liberal groups have demonstrated yet again that their position is correct.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:57 PM
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43. March 9 in the morning could have been around our midnight last
night - there were over 12 hours to change things.

In any case, this is not over with. The UAE and Carlyle and Carlyle type groups of the privileged are going to make money - not us.

I wonder what union members are saying about all this.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:03 PM
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44. DPW will still own 21 US Ports.
Everything else is a RW smokscreen.

BTW here are American companies that run American ports. Did they get to bid on this deal?

There are three U.S. companies -- Seattle-based Stevedoring Services of America; Oakland, Calif.-based Marine Terminals Corporation; and Elisabeth, N.J.-based Maher Terminals, Inc
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:09 PM
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45. I heard that, the RW called our port workers, terrorists. Is that true?
:shrug: I mean, in the throes of this Dubai deal, it seems almost laughable that the RW would come up with something THAT STUPID!!!
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:49 AM
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49. It wouldn't even surprise me if they are "saying" the deal is done
but in all actuality the deal is still moving forward as orignally planned. Like they are passing the rights over to a "US Entity" - which is really just a subcontractor that they will indirectly control anyways.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:35 PM
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46. Swapping Petro-dollars for hard assets.
I imagine that the SA and UAE are sitting on a pile of illiquid dollars. No one wants 'em. If they dumped them, it'd cause a major depression on the dollar value. So this deal allows them to convert dollars to tangible assets. Bush and his Big Oil buddies are arranging the swap out. I expect to see more of our infrastructure sold off in the future.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 05:04 AM
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51. So it's not dead, it's just gone subterranean. They think they can
have their media mouthpieces calm the sheeple again and resume business as usual. Well, why shouldn't they think that? They've done exactly that so many times already!

K & R
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 05:35 AM
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52. Do you know that Dubai had already bought CSX railway terminals?
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