This year may just be the high water mark of the conservative

[Mountainman]

revolution. It might be all down hill from then on for them. I just read the post that says the SD abortion law may never go into effect. If Dems can control at least one house of congress they can stop the Bush agenda for the rest of his term. Maybe the Dems get both houses and the White House in 2008. By the time 2012 rolls around many of today's neocons will be dead.

Here's hoping this is true.

[AlinPA]

1. I have a theory that a lot of the right wing voters are old people who are

living in the past. I see it around my part of the world: old blue hair conservatives, Grange (farmer organizations), and some of the church groups are aging and fading away. Not that these organizations are bad, rather, it is the age group that buys into all this right wing religious/flag waving/intolerant mindset.

[patrice]

2. I think you are right about this.

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[Cobalt Violet]

5. They have done that and have lost ever since.

[icymist]

6. Are you trying to say that Dems. would win more elections....

if they act more like the Republicans? Already the left has moved so far to center that it looks like the right of just fifteen years ago!:puke:

[AlinPA]

10. I don't follow you. What I'm theorizing is that there are a lot of old

people who vote a lot and they are buying into the right wing stuff.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

7. You are soooo off the mark

People voted for Clinton because he was republican lite when the Repug party had moved so far right it started to scare people.
Then there's the 50% of the eligible population that doesn't even vote, because they think all polititians are corrupt, or don't speak for them. Those that don't vote, are farther left than the Democratic party.

[AlinPA]

11. Totally agree that half the population does not vote and that is a big

problem for us; if they did, many would be Democratic votes. I think the R's are more zealous, re: voting.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

4. Oh I see plenty of young/middle aged ones here in TX.

[DemoTex]

8. That is somewhat true AlinPA, but they are changing too.

The problem is, it is too late. The Diebold fix is in, forever and ever, amen (perhaps). The state controls the count, as Stalin said. Fuck the voters (us). The only hope is a counter-coup (oh yes! there has been a coup! Several since '94, in fact) in November (and it would have to be preceded by massive street demonstrations .. massive enough to cast doubt on Diebold voting results). That won't happen.

We are not moving toward a slightly rightest state, we are moving at breakneck speed to an ultra-right, Christian-dominated (and required) state that mirrors the Communist-dominated (and required) governments of places we have spilled blood for years (Viet Nam comes to mind). Bu$h professes Christianity to ameliorate this core group. The core group, in return, supports the values of this anti-Christ, to which they are pledged to fight to the death. It is the ultimate irony.

The GOP party will be allied with us in a few years (or maybe months), but it will be too late. Like a chemical reaction between opposing reagents, we need a catalyst. That catalyst might just be Bu$h and his PNAC cabal.

Know what I mean, Vern?

[BlueIris]

9. Their high-water mark was '02, if you ask me. nt

[catmandu57]

12. I think they hit it in Nov 04

they've been pretty much ineffectual since then. I agree with the comments on the non voters if we could find a way to speak to them we could crush this ridiculous excuse of a government.
If things keep on the way they're going, we won't have to worry about creating a message, two things, no, three things are possible.
The reptiles and their khristian allies take over completely and we're on our knees three times a day talking to the air, or we're blown to kingdom come while the morlocks wait until it's safe to emerge.
Three people get so fucking disgusted that we see the second civil war.