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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:19 PM
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Johnstown Flood killed 2,200 in 1889 - no Halliburton handout...
Edited on Thu Mar-02-06 03:22 PM by Lori Price CLG
In 1889, the Johnstown Flood killed 2,200 - the government (and citizens) actually helped people in the aftermath, and the money went toward helping the survivors, etc. Halliburton didn't get a $500mln handout.
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/news/hurricane_katrina.html

Oh, and the levies weren't blown, either.

This is a really good DVD on it:

Johnstown Flood, narrated by Richard Dreyfuss.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:22 PM
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1. My mother was in the Johnstown Flood of 1936.
FDR came to town after that one.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:25 PM
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3. Wow! That is amazing... what did she say about it?
BTW, FDR didn't do a phony flyover, a la the Idiot Usurper!

Lori
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:37 PM
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7. The '36 flood
was on St. Patrick's Day and was the result of melting snow.

She and her siblings, who had been at school, were separated from her parents for a couple of days. She remembers the flood water coming in up through the floors and seeing household items floating down the street and a fellow with a large net grabbing what he thought he could use.

After a day or so folks came by in a rowboat with coffee.

Everything in the first floor of their house was ruined. Except the mats on top of the dining room table because the table was firmly pressed against the ceiling. Her parents had to clean out the house.

FDR drove through town.
They never saw the Red Cross.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:41 PM
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9. The Red Cross - I think it started out as a Civil War assistance org.,
and - well now, it's deteriorated into an arm of the Reichwing, although I am sure some folks that are part of the Red Cross mean well and try to help people in need. I mean, overall policy and management of the Red Cross.

Lori
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:22 PM
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2. Just wait till Hailliburton finishes up their Time Machine
Then we'll see about a handout.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:28 PM
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4. Thanks for the headsup...
I just read something about the Johnstown flood....

I am currently reading a book called, "Acts of God-The Unnatural History of Natural Disaster in America" by Ted Steinberg

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195142632/104-4399003-8904704?v=glance&n=283155

<snip>
He examines how many of America's worst natural disasters were made more devastating through economic decision making.
<snip>

I just started it but it's applicable to what happened in NO....very interesting so far....
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:34 PM
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5. May I suggest
RISING TIDE - The great Mississippi flood of 1927 and how it changed America by John M. Barry

Incredible read chock full of Louisiana and Mississippi politics before and after the devastation.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:40 PM
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8. BOSSHOG....I will add this one to my reading list also...
My reading list is getting longer every day!!!

Thanks for the suggestion!! :hi:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:44 PM
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10. I can never get caught up either
but I do enjoy a good read. And it seems recently that the non fiction stuff is more exciting than fiction. I got two books yesterday about Katrina and no doubt they'll be a ton of books out the closer we get to the elections. Happy reading.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:36 PM
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6. The documentary is really good. As w. Katrina, there were fires...
raging during the flood. A railroad car caught fire, turning acres of debris trapped by a railroad bridge into a 'huge funeral pyre.'

I'll check out that book, thanks!
Lori
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:49 PM
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11. Robber barons and the Johnstown flood (interesting article)
http://www.jaha.org/FloodMuseum/clubanddam.html

The South Fork Fishing & Hunting Club counted many of Pittsburgh's leading industrialists and financiers among its 61 members, including Andrew Carnegie, Henry Clay Frick, Andrew Mellon, and Philander Knox. (click here for a complete list of club members).

The club did engage in periodic maintenance of the dam, but made some harmful modifications to it. They installed fish screens across the spillway to keep the expensive game fish from escaping, which had the unfortunate effect of capturing debris and keeping the spillway from draining the lake's overflow. They also lowered the dam by a few feet in order to make it possible for two carriages to pass at the same time, so the dam was only about four feet higher than the spillway. The club never reinstalled the drainage pipes so that the reservoir could be drained.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:55 PM
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12. I believe it!
Predatory Capitalism was around in the 19th Century, but Bush has taken it to a whole new (catastrophic) level!

Thanks for that link, BurgherHoldtheLies!
Lori
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:59 PM
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13. The robber barons are baaaaaaack....and more evil and organized this time.
This Bush breed of Republican gives greed a bad name.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 04:14 PM
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14. Right, at least they didn't blow the levies. I just wonder why
Hurricane Katrina hit as a Category 3, and then later... the levies collapsed, only seeming to effect the poor areas, that Halliburton, etc., could 'rebuild.'

It just seems way too convenient to me. $500 Million is a heck of an incentive to have blown them.

Lori
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