Japanese newscast provides hint about mosque bombing

[Lydia Leftcoast]

I get a Japanese newscast on cable here in Minneapolis, and I watch it for language practice when I'm home in the mornings.

The caption leading into the story of the bombing of the mosque in Samarra said:

IMPENDING CIVIL WAR IN IRAQ CASTS DOUBT ON TROOP REDUCTION PLANS

Bingo!

If Iraq erupts into civil war, all the neocon apologists will go on TV and say with the oozy fake compassion that they're so good at, "How can we abandon the Iraqi people in the midst of a bloody civil war?"

And no MSM journalist will have the guts to say, "They weren't having a civil war before your administration invaded their country, you cynical, heartless, money-grubbing liar!"

[Viva_La_Revolution]

1. I'm sure we will hear this same analysis on our news any moment...

or not. :mad:

Thanks for the info!

[babylonsister]

2. Hey, we broke it, we own it. So said a retired MSNBC

military guy yesterday, quoting Colin Powell. :eyes:

[underpants]

3. Gee I wonder if anyone has a plan for this

Like pulling the troops out of the middle of the country and basically ringing the place to make sure no one gets out and, more importantly, no one gets in. This plan would probably include some sort of provision for the permanent bases but then if they are overrun or destroyed SOMEONE would have to build them all over again from scratch.

Gee I wonder if anyone has mentioned anything like that? I wonder if any planning is being done with something like that in mind?

I wonder if any planning IS being done as it might appear to show weakness-not to the outside world but within the Pentagon.

Anyway back to the subject....yeah pull the troops out to the perimeter and use them to react to flare ups here and there...I wonder.......

[PATRICK]

6. Crusader Castle

Which eventually failed BTW. The bases house the mostly untouched, sequestered American forces who will intervene very selectively, ESPECIALLY if some faction becomes too dominant and successful. This was ALWAYS the plan of Bushco, but a lot of rosy denial and greed blinded faith mixed with the cynicism.

After the "glow" of liberation they must have always suspected the repressed man-made divisions of hate in the country would have made the prone victim ripe for division, exploitation and the creation of an excuse to have the Grand Pipeline of the New American Empire invincibly castled there in force.

So it doesn't look too good? The RW has its oil, its castles, its goals and divide and reconquer strategy
for as long as it needs to get all the oil and money and leave the natives to eat sand in the future.
What do they care about how messy it looks if there are no real consequences to them? And the powerful military being strangled into privatized mercenary thuggery is brainwashed into dull impotence in this obvious role. They HOPE the bitter troops will stay as private guards and get more corrupted and part of the privatized looting of that region. They HOPE the devastated American education and job scene will lure more suckers into the maelstrom of the duped Armed Services.

It seems to work enough for now to keep the power/greed/entitlement addicted criminals fairly secure. They are mad if someone criticizes the failures, does not love all the "democracy" and "freedom" they are spreading by abusive paternalistic force.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

4. Say "CORPORATE MEDIA" - NOT "MSM" Please nt

[Kansas Wyatt]

9. More like "Republican Corporate Media"

Attaches the real identity who is responsible.

[bryant69]

5. Because the only people who would be concerned about a

bloody civil war in which innocents will die, are neocons. I don't know about the rest of you but I don't give a damn about the iraqi people except as a political football. Let them all gut themselves. Who cares? Just get the troops out of there because we can make political capital out of that.

Bryant
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[Lydia Leftcoast]

8. That's not what I'm saying

I'm saying

1) There was no civil war in Iraq before the U.S. military came in to mess things up

2) So many innocents have died as a direct result of the Busheviks' invasion, and with only a shrug of the shoulders from the neocons.

3) Anti-war sentiment is growing, because too many young Americans and too many innocent Iraqis are dying. The neocons don't care about the deaths, since it's not THEIR kids who are being blown to bits or maimed for life, but they're sensitive to the fact that public opinion is turning against them.

4) Therefore, they need an excuse to stay in Iraq. What better excuse than a civil war? Now and only now will the neocons go on the talk shows and start expressing sympathy with the Iraqi people who are facing car bombs and ambushes. (Wait, aren't they already facing car bombs and ambushes?)

I've had so much sympathy for the Iraqi people--beginning from before the U.S. invasion--that my sympathy neurons are practically worn out. The neocons' sympathy is selective, a hypocritical act to be turned on and off when it suits their purposes.

[bryant69]

11. Yeah

Exactly. I'm tired of giving a shit about the Iraqi people too. I think we are on the same page. I mean if they want to start killing each other off, how is that our business?

Bryant

[Lydia Leftcoast]

12. Are you being deliberately obtuse?

I'm just saying that the neocons appearance of caring can be turned on and off when it suits them.

And I'mnot convinced that keeping U.S. troops in Iraq is going to save a single Iraqi life.

[fed-up]

7. Violence Strains U.S. Strategy and Imperils Pullout Plans 2/23 NYT

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2128844

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/24/politics/24diplo.html?_r=1&hp&ex=1140757200&en=83fd30477ae33e85&ei=5094&partner=homepage&oref=slogin
Violence Strains U.S. Strategy and Imperils Pullout Plans
By STEVEN R. WEISMAN and ROBERT F. WORTH
Published: February 24, 2006

WASHINGTON, Feb. 23 — The violence in Iraq after the bombing of a Shiite mosque this week has abruptly thrown the Bush administration on the defensive, and there were signs on Thursday that American officials recognized new perils to their plans to withdraw troops this year. The American enterprise in Iraq seemed beleaguered on two fronts, political and military....

[JitterbugPerfume]

10. and wasn't the fear of provoking civil war

the reason poppy Bush gave for not removing Saddam ?