Why Would Cheney Want This Question Excised from the Fox Transcript?>>>

[Stephanie]

In the Wednesday transcript, when Hume asks Cheney if he's ever unilaterally declassified information, Cheney does not deny it. He says he doesn't want to talk about it. He's slipped up. He's admitted he might have done it. Or at least he's refused to deny ever having done it.

Now a new transcript appears on Thursday, heavily redacted, whole sections missing, and this question conveniently disappears, completely altering the meaning of Dick's answer. It's amazing! Yesterday they could decipher the words, today they are CROSSTALK.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185012,00.html

Transcript: Cheney on FOX News
Wednesday, February 15, 2006

The following is a transcript of the interview Vice President Dick Cheney gave FOX News regarding the accidental shooting of Austin attorney Harry Whittington:

<excerpt>

HUME: Let me ask you another question. Is it your view that a vice president has the authority to declassify information?

CHENEY: There is an executive order to that effect.

HUME: There is.

CHENEY: Yes.

HUME: Have you done it?

CHENEY: Well, I've certainly advocated declassification and participated in declassification decisions. The executive order —

HUME: You ever done it unilaterally?

CHENEY: I don't want to get into that. There is an executive order that specifies who has classification authority, and obviously focuses first and foremost on the president, but also includes the vice president.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185013,00.html

Exclusive Interview With V.P. Dick Cheney
Thursday, February 16, 2006

This is a partial transcript of "Special Report With Brit Hume" from Feb. 15, 2006, that has been edited for clarity.

<excerpt>

HUME: Let me ask you another question. Is it your view that a vice president has the authority to declassify information?

CHENEY: There is an executive order to that effect.

HUME: There is.

CHENEY: Yeah.

HUME: Have you done it?

CHENEY: Well, I have certainly advocated declassification. I have participated in declassification decisions.

HUME: Have you —

(CROSSTALK)

CHENEY: I don't want to get into that. There's an executive order that specifies who has classification authority, and obviously it focuses first and foremost on the president, but also includes the vice president.

COMPARISON:


HUME: Let me ask you another question. Is it your view that a vice president has the authority to declassify information?

CHENEY: There is an executive order to that effect.

HUME: There is.

CHENEY: YesYeah.

HUME: Have you done it?

CHENEY: Well, I've have certainly advocated declassification and. I have participated in declassification decisions. The executive order

HUME: Have you —

HUME: You ever done it unilaterally?

(CROSSTALK)

CHENEY: I don't want to get into that. There is's an executive order that specifies who has classification authority, and obviously it focuses first and foremost on the president, but also includes the vice president.

[Marnieworld]

1. The preview button is your friend

;-)

:silly:

[Stephanie]

3. i fixed

I like to have the red "edited at on" line in every post

[Marnieworld]

14. Me too

It's almost my signature.

[Stephanie]

16. Me 3, see above

:)

[rzemanfl]

2. Bonnie interviews Clyde. Ma Barker transcribes. n/t

[Skip Intro]

4. Olberman played that clip. I remember hearing "unilateraly"

I think.

When is Olberman repeated???

[jimshoes]

5. Either Randi, Janean or Sam

played it too today. I definitely heard unilaterally. So it's out there and it's only disappeared on fox.

[Stephanie]

6. yeah, it's out there in the other transcripts too I'm sure - CNN, etc.

They all posted transcripts. But the Fox one today has been heavily redacted, large sections deleted. They also corrected some genuine errors - it's been proofread. But THIS is an odd edit. Very deliberate. And I wonder if Cheney himself took a red pencil to the transcript.

[Skip Intro]

7. It definitely wasn't "crosstalk"

those damn fox cowards - enemies of the nation

[Stephanie]

18. But who's their Daddy?

Did Cheney edit his own transcript?

[Up2Late]

8. Why? Because the old way it shows that he's...

...the one actually who's running the Government.

They can't let the history show that his puppet George wasn't really the president.

It's so Orwellian. This is the the type of thing that the Communist Chinese do! :crazy:

[Sparkly]

9. Some of it could be about Cheney's tendency to mumble, BUT,

omitting "unilaterally" seems like another attempt to hide the real balance in the Executive branch. Cheney probably makes most of the decisions, they tell Chimpy whatever they need to (in very elementary terms), and make Chimpy believe all the big decisions were actually his own idea.

Seems to me Cheney wouldn't want to say he declassified info unilaterally, but rather emphasize "advocating" things, "participating" in decisions, or the usual "he proposed and I agreed."...

[Stephanie]

19. yes but on Wednesday they could transcribe it just fine

On Thursday it became "crosstalk"

[Sparkly]

20. I know exactly what you're saying.

I think it's about the word "unilaterally."

I was thinking all the "it is" vs. "it's" sort of things could have to do with mumbling, or something.

[Stephanie]

22. oh defintitely - the transcript was also edited for transcription errors

Somebody proofread the original transcription against the tape and made proofreader edits. That's legitimate. But the second version also redacts large sections, for no explicable reason. And it has this one very odd edit, which calls attention to itself.

[Kansas Wyatt]

10. Too late for BushCo to make that claim.

After all, the whole country saw Bush promise to get to the bottom of it and fire whoever outed Plame. Then Bush craw fished, and said he would discipline whoever was responsible.

So, we have gone from the responsible traitor being fired, to being disciplined, to now saying that it was always legitimate outing of a CIA agent when an investigation points to Cheney. Who just happen to have prior questionable business dealings that would be discovered by Plame.

Who the Hell is re-writing history again?

[pk_du]

11. Apparently (according to Truth-out) there is some debate over

whether Chimpy as Prez could do such a thing but no-one believes Dead-eye could unless he was acting as Prez under the constitution a-la Johnson

[glitch]

12. Oh man. Cheney's acting as pres cuz Chimps incapacitated?

Ay carumba.

[NewJeffCT]

13. Now, if Plame was declassified by Cheney

That is a big IF, mind you.

But, if she had been declassified by Cheney, why did CIA request the investigation? Why did Ashcroft recuse himself from said investigation? Why appoint a special prosecutor? Couldn't he just have quietly told CIA, "Hey, I declassified her status for national security reasons" and leave it at that?

[bleever]

15. Great catch. Olbermann keyed in on this part of the interview.

I think Cheney never anticipated that line of questioning, and that Hume probably wishes he hadn't brought it up.

Rec'd.

[Stephanie]

21. their attempt to redact it just emphasizes it and makes it suspicious

lol! It was actually my Dad who brought my attention to this. He was reading the transcripts pretty carefully!

[peacetalksforall]

17. A manisfestation of arrogance - assume people are stupid. n/t

[Up2Late]

23. None of these are right PLUS, this was about the LIBBY/Wilson Leak!

I'm re-listening to today's NPR "All Things Considered" (which I record to listen to later), they played this clip, and had a lawyer on to explain what he was talking about.

It's on the NPR website (the audio) in full digital sound at this link:

<http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5220336>

And they do sell transcripts for a few bucks too.

[threadkillaz]

25. Fox Video Link

http://www.foxnews.com/specialreport/

Go To "VP Dick Cheney" Pt 3 at 1:30 (as they have split the interview in to 3 parts)

There is no "Crosstalk" except for the word "unilaterally"

I also think he said advocated AND participated.

[Up2Late]

26. What do you mean by "Crosstalk" I don't get that part?

Unilaterally sounds clear enough to me.:shrug:

[Justice Is Comin]

24. If you had a dollar for every lie

we catch these people in on DU, we could personally pay off the national debt. Bush News has got Kool Aide syrup lines running to every desk.

[Stephanie]

27. I think Dick personally made this edit.

His desperation is showing. He's sweating it now.

[NNN0LHI]

28. The White House has the correct transcript up

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/02/20060215-3.html

<snip>Q Let me ask you another question. Is it your view that a Vice President has the authority to declassify information?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: There is an executive order to that effect.

Q There is.

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Yes.

Q Have you done it?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, I've certainly advocated declassification and participated in declassification decisions. The executive order --

Q You ever done it unilaterally?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I don't want to get into that. There is an executive order that specifies who has classification authority, and obviously focuses first and foremost on the President, but also includes the Vice President.

[Lucille]

29. Interesting. It really doesn't make any sense to try to edit it out

Especially given that the WH has the unredacted version up--and so does Fox, just at a different link. And it's not like the comments hadn't already been picked up a by other media.

I heard the interview. Cheney's comments were fully audible.

[calmblueocean]

30. I swear, it's like 1984!

The worst thing about the web is how news organizations can (and do!) "disappear" information. Unless someone happens to have a cached copy themselves, the public is never the wiser. How much of our past gets deleted that we don't even know about?

[Secular Agent Man]

31. My guess would be David Addington wasn't comfortable

with some of the comments Cheney made in that interview.

[spanone]

32. Precisely why Cheney went to his ministry of Propaganda.

lawless fucks.

[Up2Late]

33. Sorry, I'm still not clear on what you mean by "Crosstalk"

I listened on NPR and watched the Fox "news" video, but I still don't get what "Crosstalk" is.

[Stephanie]

34. "Crosstalk" is what the transcriptionist types when she can't decipher

She can't decipher the words because everyone is talking over each other. It's the equivalent of "unintelligible." However in THIS transcript, the typist was able to transcribe the words on Wednesday, but on the edited version that they posted on Thursday, suddenly she can't understand, the damning words are replaced with "CROSSTALK", and the whole meaning of Cheney's answer is altered.

:hi:

[Up2Late]

36. Oh, O.K. I get it. The I agree, this is total BS, but here the deal...

...I've been watching and following how real News turns into bogus "news," so here's the process.

Normally, a news event happens, normally not on national T.V. and it is reported by New York Times, AP, Reuters, Times of London, AFP, etc, and they post it to their website. A few hours later, the original gets picked up by a local papers and T.V. stations website, but it gets edited down, some times a little, sometimes A LOT. Then, confusing things further, sites like YaHoo! News or Google News picks up a version of the article, sometimes the original, bu most of the time it's one of these edited versions.

Soon after that, UPI or some other bogus RW, web only "news site" picks it up and re-edits it with a major RW slant. These RW edits then get picked up by dozens of RW websites, and by this time, it starts to get very difficult to figure out where the original came from.

By this time, the the original source has been deleted from AP and AFP and usually deleted or Archived at the NY Times and other large Newspapers. What is left on the internet, which is widely available, is an edited and, in some cases, deliberately manipulated, version of the original.

For Video (some times audio), and in this case, the video will soon be deleted or Archived to a non-public archive at Fox "news", but the written transcript will be left on the server. You could probably still get the original, but you will have to pay for it, and with this one, you might have to pay a LOT.

Plus, Digital Video is very easy to re-edit, so even if you bought it later, it could have been secretly edited. This also makes convincing those who don't want to be convinced (like those at FR) very difficult.

Probably the #1 reason Cheney chose to give an exclusive interview to Fox was so that FOX controls the ONLY truly original copy, what went out was edited, and anything you see in the future will be an edit.

And since the GOP controls Fox, if in the future we ever want to prove he said he had the power of a co-President (which is basically what he said, and is Un-Constitutional), we'll have to go through the same sort of process as with the Abu Gareb videos and pictures.

Now, because lots of people taped or DVRed the Fox Cheney interview, you could probably get a court to hear this issue, but without the original tapes, they could always claim what was show was edited (which it was), or what you presented to the court was edited, so your chances in court would be O.K., but not a "Slam Dunk."

I'm sure I left a few things out, so feel free to ask anything that is confusing.

If you want to test this, pick a few "big issues" from November or December 2005, and see if you can find the original video or Newspaper article. The original has the writers "by line" on it, without a "by line," 99.99% of the time, it's an edited version (or at least you won't be able to prove it's not). This is one of the few advantages a printed (on newsprint) original, "hard copy" has over internet websites.

[SeattleRob]

35. more proof

Fox News = Republican Pravda!

[Up2Late]

37. Exactly, and if they ever forget that, they are history.

I'm sure they have an "understanding" with Fox "news."

[Stephanie]

38. Just heard this cliip on NPR - it is perfectly clear

the constitutional expert on now says the remark is startling, and establishes Cheney as a co-president