Deal to head off NSA Senate investigation almost a deal. cnn NOW

[rodeodance]

[rodeodance]

1. Deal is between Sen. Roberts and WH

[rodeodance]

2. He is going to meeting now (but sounds like he wants the deal).

[rodeodance]

4. Deal would fix the nsa program and also for more briefings to Senate

[FreedomAngel82]

14. If you can't break the law than fix the law eh?

:mad: They're going to let him get away with this crap!

[Triana]

3. The repigs are not going to investigate the repigs....

...the fox is guarding the henhouse. They can DO ANYTHING they want to WHOMEVER they want for whatever REASON they want, ANY TIME they want.

No one will stop them - and especially not any Republicans. This is no longer America.

[rodeodance]

6. well, Roberts just came from chatting with WH and he wants NO investiga

tion. he has made that clear before.

[stop the bleeding]

10. Also since he is the one blocking phase II of the Iraq War intel

why would anyone think that Congress would act as a check and balance.

[stop the bleeding]

12. Also I told all of my Republican friends that Congress would NOT have the

integrity to investigate this, I told them this when Risen's article first came out a couple of months ago and they laughed and said no we have integrity to investigate this.

I can not wait to tell them now, even though it doesn't help us, I knew this would happen.

[Catrina]

28. And if we go by the Patriot Act Cloture vote, our Democratic

leadership will decide it's 'best for the country' to once again cover up the criminal actions of this administration.

[caledesi]

27. Triana - you are so right. I could cry. nt

[Independent_Liberal]

29. These people AREN'T Republicans! They're Nazis!

Nazis I tell you!

[Just Me]

5. *sigh*

I'm living in an insane asylum.

Our country is so SO lost. Lost.

[rodeodance]

7. BIG sigh.

[rodeodance]

8. we just got a crappy 'deal' on the PA--and now this!

[Just Me]

13. Yet ANOTHER step towards total dictatorship.

:cry: And, INCREDIBLY, there are still "Americans" supporting this administration. WTF is WRONG with those people?

Such a bad day for America, for her "democracy by a thread". shit

[Beaverhausen]

9. Democracy - HA!

this is f#*ked up.

[Pithy Cherub]

11. I am waiting to praise which Democrat will say this is part

of the culture of corruption. That by not holding hearings on something that involves ALL Americans, not just republicans, they are covering up for the illegal warrantless wiretapping by this president. That republicans are undermining the constitution by not protecting and defending it and that they are breaking their oaths of office. waiting...

[jus_the_facts]

15. Don't hold your breath....

:yoiks:

[Sydnie]

16. why can't we do what we did with Alito with this?

they can only make a deal that can stick if we are complicit here, right? Let's NOT go quietly. Let's raise a stink with the same vigilance as we did for Alito.

Damn it. No sitting quietly anymore.

Let them know we are mad as hell and not going to take it anymore!

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

22. We Did NOTHING With Alito...

No Filibuster, and quick confirmation. This won't be any different. The democrats are basically a milder version of the repubs. Our democracy is DEAD.

[Sydnie]

23. We spoke out. We did not sit on our hands and moan that

"democracy is dead". We might have lost the battle but at least we showed up to fight. If we want people to know what's going on, we have to make a noise ... a big LOUD noise.

I have not given up. Sorry you have.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

25. Exactly....WE Spoke Out....

Our representatives in Congress for the most part DID NOT. I've gotten to the point where I understand the game which is being played, and unfortunately our team sucks at it.

I'm not talking about people from DU, from Move On, from any of the many blogs. I'm not talking about the people who spent days calling and writing senators BEGGING that Alito be filibustered. I'm talking about our so-called democratic leaders. You know, the ones who got a "fan favorite" like Hackett kicked out of the game. The ones who bashed anyone who suggested a filibuster.

We stand little chance getting past them, and stand ZERO chance of getting past the repubs, because they stick to their script, and NEVER deviate. I am glad you still wish to give an effort, and do so without complaint or regret. I lend you my support, and will put in some effort as well, just like I did with Alito. I'm just realistic enough to know that there is little chance of success. It's kind of like rooting for a last place team. You hope for and enjoy the few victories, but realize that come season's end, you're going to be sitting home watching the others celebrate on tv.

[Sydnie]

26. and if we had done nothing it would have passed without a word

at all. We made noise and we made the press engage our position whether they wanted to or not. The only way we are ever going to gain any clout again is to do it over and over and over until it is no longer laughed at, no longer dismissed as absurd or a one time outrage, or a single issue action.

We must hammer every chance we get and take the loses as one more step to the day we no longer lose. As long as we sit quietly, we are assured to lose and be dismissed as something that must be tolerated but not given any attention so we will go away defeated.

That old quote come to mind - All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke).

I don't intend to sit by and do nothing.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

17. Can Someone Please Help Me....

I really want to get out of this country. I really really do. But I have a job, a license, family & friends, and it's just not that easy. And I need to choose a country which is not nearly as corrupt as this one. Canada seems in too close proximity to the dangers of the U.S.

I suppose if I didn't feel so alone in wanting to leave, or in actually doing so, I would be more comfortable and confident about it. Every day that goes by, I lose more respect for the U.S., and am pretty much ready to get the fuck out. No way it ever comes back in my lifetime, and I'm 39.

[stop the bleeding]

18. look at New Zealand and what kind of jobs they need filled

I hear that is one place to go and I also heard it is easier to get into the country via a work authorization.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

21. New Zealand Seems So Remote

Isn't the head of Australia buddy buddy with King george? Is NZ in any way affected by this? I would feel far removed from both the U.S. and Europe all the way down there, but perhaps that's not such a bad thing in the long run.

[mmonk]

24. Buy property in Canada

and go back across the border once every six months until you decide if you want to apply for residency (I know, this is an expensive option). Canada has very stingent privacy laws. I may go this route in the future until what kind of country we end up having shakes out.

[PA Democrat]

19. I just got off the phone with Arlen Specter's office and asked if he would

go along with this.

I was told Specter hadn't made a statement yet. I said if he supported this I think he should resign since he would be abrogating his responsibility to the Constitution. I said what was the sense of even having the legislative branch of government if they choose to ignore their responsibility to provide checks and balances to what is an appallingly out of control and corrupt executive branch.

I've just had it. If people think we still have democracy in this country they are delusional.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

20. Specter Doesn't Give A Shit

I appreciate your efforts, but if you think Arlen gives a flying fuck, I've got a bridge to sell ya. You wasted a phone call, but thanks for trying.