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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:40 PM
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There's something wrong w/ Cheney -- killed 70 TAME birds in one trip
Even before he accidentally shot his hunting companion, some had already been questioning whether Cheney's obsession with hunting was beyond a macabre hobby, but represented some kind of sick, murderous psychopathology.

In one incident that received some press coverage, Cheney and his pals had 500 farm raised pheasants -- that is, birds that had lost their fear of people -- released before them. The party killed 417 birds in one day, with Cheney bagging 70 of the tamed animals himself.

This is not hunting. This is slaughter. This represents the same mental illness that caused W to kill small animals as a child. Isn't wanton killing of small animals by children a sign of mental illness and a marker for violent criminal behavior in the adult?

Here is the link:

http://kdka.com/local/local_story_344154903.html

Sport or Slaughter? VP's Hunting Trip Sparks Criticism

KDKA) Pittsburgh Vice President Dick Cheney's hunting trip to Westmoreland County this week is drawing criticism.

Cheney arrived at the Arnold Palmer Regional Airport in Latrobe on Monday to do some hunting at the Rolling Rock Club and Game Preserve -- a private club with farm-raised pheasants; but some say it was no hunt -- it was a slaughter.

"Your average hunter may shoot more than three pheasants a day; Vice President Cheney shot more than 70 -- and an untold number of mallards... We're appalled that so many animals were killed for target practice essentially."-- Wayne Pacelle, V.P.- Humane Society of the US
Five-hundred pheasants were released in front of Cheney and his men; and the ten-man hunting party killed 417 of the birds. Vice President Cheney alone shot over 70 pheasants.

...

The hunt sparked the Humane Society to issue a statement chastising Cheney. "We're appalled that so many animals were killed -- for target practice essentially," says Humane Society Vice President Wayne Pacelle.
"To just slaughter animals that are dumped out in front of hunters just for the thrill of all this killing is not something that can be justified... this is more grisly than we ever could have imagined it could be."-- Wayne Pacelle, Humane Society
The White House isn't commenting.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:41 PM
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1. Google Cheney and hunting
I was shocked at the number of entries. It is an obsession.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:54 PM
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59. Still trying to prove his manhood after all these years. With canned hunts
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 05:59 PM by glitch
What kind of childhood did he have anyway? Must've been horrific, and we're all paying for it now.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:42 PM
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2. There is nothing even remotely sporting about this!
This is slaughter! Gross. I can't believe this kind of thing is still legal!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:42 PM
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3. Kick for HOW SICK IT IS!
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 04:39 PM by ClayZ
:kick:


He should have to eat them raw!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:45 PM
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6. I can't bear hunting anymore. they are aerial slaughtering our
wolves over the twice mandated objections of the people of this state so fat fucks from every place else can come up here and slaughter moose. Cheney is a coward.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:05 PM
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34. That's horrible, especially for dog owners ...
I own a dog, and I know that dogs and wolves are tempermentally completely different. But to slaughter such an intelligent pack oriented animal for sport -- indirectly for sport, so there is more game -- is sick.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:52 PM
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95. Five deferments, eh?
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 02:46 PM
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134. Disgusting. Having gone "hunting" with my father as a youngster
I can tell you that what he called hunting was really just poaching. He, my brother and their hunting buddies killed animals out of season and often left the carcasses to rot. They also killed dogs that didn't measure up as hunters. They beat the dogs senseless and were cruel to caged wild animals, too.

Damn...why wasn't I taught right from wrong? My heart knew it was wrong, but it was presented as right.

Now idiots can hunt wolves from helicopters again. Ooooo...da big bad hunters....ooooo, they're so bwave and stwong!!!

God, I hate people like that. It doesn't help my family was / is full of them. :grr: Worthless fucks...even more worthless than their perception of people on welfare.

(Man, I'm in a really bad mood today. Perhaps I should stay away from DU for awhile. :D )
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:44 PM
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4. The only way I could find
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 03:44 PM by Mz Pip
this even remotely acceptable is if the birds were donated to a homeless shelter for meals. But I kind of doubt that.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:17 PM
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71. The lead pellets in the shot birds are not good for whoever eats them. n/t
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:44 PM
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5. I agree. This is very sick. There's no sport in this.
I have no problem with hunting...if you eat the game you kill. To kill for "sport" is really sick and twisted. Somehow, it fits perfectly for a worldclass war monger/coward like Cheney.
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Keseys Ghost Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:46 PM
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10. Just plain twisted
And God saw that. God don't like ugly. And God don't never, never sleep.

Dick will get his.

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:25 PM
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42. Ah, I like your post, Keseys Ghost. May it be so.
Welcome to DU. :thumbsup:
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:31 PM
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76. Your lips
to the God's ears.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:03 PM
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91. Your lips to God's ears! And welcome to DU
I think you're right too, BTW.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:21 PM
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38. Maybe Dick ate all seventy of 'em
Raw. Wouldn't be surprised.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:42 PM
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54. That's how he got Gout
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 03:05 PM
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136. No, he just bites off the heads and drinks the blood. nt
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:54 PM
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60. Really - I doubt they even donated the killed birds to hunger shelters
.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 04:07 AM
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111. Next year, he's going to a petting zoo at the County Fair
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 02:28 PM
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132. Chickenhawk Cheney
Like we need any more confirmation of how evil Cheney is. It's hard to even call killing caged animals a "sport," - it doesn't involve "hunting". Hunting means you had to hunt & search for the birds, not have 500 birds released right in front of you so you can play target practice. After ducking the military drafts, it's like he's trying to prove how macho he is by attacking defenseless animals. Classic chickenhawk behavior!
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 02:29 PM
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133. ...
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 02:36 PM by Marie26
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:45 PM
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7. I bet they seed the fields too
which is illegal in many places.

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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:50 PM
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16. Seeding rice ponds (with rice)
in South Carolina was/is a common practice.

Against the law.

180

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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 03:01 AM
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109. Most dove fields are seeded or planted with sunflowers
to attract wild doves. It's common practice.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:45 PM
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8. Eventually, he'll blow his own nuts off . . .
. . . too bad about the innocent, tame animals, though.

Hey, you FReeps! Whaddaya think about your great sportsman VP now? He's just a regular guy ain't he? Yeah, if ya dig havin' a beer with Satan himself. . . Jeez, you guys are such pathetic fools. No wonder you lurk here, though. At least we can spell.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:04 PM
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31. If only....
*sigh*

The man is a sociopath - murdering helpless animals by the truckload for sport is a sign of a deranged mind.

The thing is, he's not even man enought to hunt something challenging. He gets off on "shooting fish in a barrell" because it's a guaranteed kill to bolster his pathetic, weak little ego. What a fucking pig - I can't even express how much I hate these Bush bastards.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:54 PM
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89. Speak for yourself!
I can't spell worth a damn! And it gets worse by the year!
Good thing we have spell checker!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 06:46 AM
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116. Meaning Condi & bush?
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:46 PM
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9. Your point is well taken, and more important than an accident.
An accidental shooting, well, it's funny like the Carter "killer rabbit" story, so long as it was not serious. But this experience you cite, and that I recall, is clearly the disturbing actions of a disturbed mind. Is this the "hunting" the NRA has in mind? That parents want to bond with their kids over? Totally underreported, and completely revealing. Thanks for reminding us.

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:46 PM
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11. Yeah. That's not hunting at all.
That's killing for the sake of killing.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:47 PM
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12. we always knew he was a psychotic sick MFer
this confirms it.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:47 PM
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13. Pheasants or peasants- they are all the same to Dick.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:51 PM
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20. There ya go.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 06:04 PM
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66. lol..if..
you google "project monarch" Cheney and hunt, you will see some of the most bizarre stories possibly imaginable.
not recommended for the squeamish or for those who hate 'wacko conspiracy tales'

disclaimer, I wasn't even sure I should mention this, so please beware!!
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:43 PM
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93. That's not funny! And to my credit, I didn't laugh out loud.
But it sure brought a large smile to my face.
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:48 PM
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14. Must've run out of pheasants and turned on his friends.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:50 PM
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19. LMAO!!! ran out of tame birds and decided what the heck-there's Harry nt
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 03:52 PM by HamdenRice
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:59 PM
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26. You got me
with a mouth full of ice cream. Good thing I didn't mess up my keyboard.

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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:29 PM
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53. LMAO!! n/t
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:20 PM
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92. Maybe he thought
it wasn't Harry...it was Furry.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:17 AM
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128. LOL. Everybody run! The Veep's got a gun!
:rofl:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:14 AM
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127. LOL ROFLMAO
:rofl:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:48 PM
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15. I wonder what REAL hunters think of this?
You know, his base, his constituency, his supporters?

Is this what a rugged, self-sufficient man is all about?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:54 PM
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23. Is it fun to kill helpless animals?
Seems to many that it is.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:03 PM
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30. It depends on what you mean by "real," we have lots of...
...rich, lazy, occasional, weekend "hunters" who do the same sort of thing. They really don't want to work too hard to get that "thrill of the hunt" and just want to "bag one" and put a Deer head (aka a Trophy) on their wall.

I doubt we have more than a few thousand actual hunters in this country anymore.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:59 PM
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64. Self-professed "real" hunters
Maybe I should have said that.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:51 PM
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56. There are real hunters here at DU, and I'd love to hear their views.
I've never hunted, but when I heard that Whittington was shot in the face, neck, and chest, I said, "HUH?" Aren't quail usually found in the tall grasses?

Could a hunter here please explain to me how Cheney shot up and behind himself to get some quail?
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Tower Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:08 PM
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70. I'm a hunter and I think it's pathetic. Here's how it seems to me.
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 07:12 PM by Tower
I once went into a Harley Davidson dealership- just to look around. This was back in the late 80's-early 90's, when Harley Davidson was reviving their business by reaching out to yuppies rather that their traditional, hardcore biker customer base.

Anyway, I talked to the dealer for awhile, and asked him what he thought of the new marketing. He was an old bike afficionado and- while he loved the increased business and such- he summed up his feelings by showing me one of their new helmets. It had a fake ponytail attached to the inside. He just pointed at it and said, there it is in a nutshell.

Anyway- that's how I feel about these lame-ass hunting theme parks. They're for posers and wannabees. Only they're worse than biker posers, because they don't just want to enjoy a weekend bikeride. They want to kill something- but they aren't willing to work for it or give that animal a sporting chance, as they would have in the wild.

What's more, I don't get the point of it. The whole thing about hunting- recreational hunting I mean- is to be out there and find your quarry. Killing it is not the appealing part- far from it. I don't undeerstand why anyone would want to have the kill without the hunt. It's profane to me.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:18 PM
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84. Well said, that's exactly how I though you actual Hunters would feel...
...but, since I'm not one, I didn't want to speak for "the hunting community."

Thanks for the post, and Welcome to DU :toast:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:36 PM
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87. Well said.
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 08:36 PM by Canuckistanian
The whole thing reminds me of European royalty and the "beaters" who would do all kinds of things like scare birds, wound animals and put them in the path of the king or tie them up.

A few hours spent outside, then back in for drinks and tall tales of hunting prowess.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 03:13 PM
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137. That's the first time I've understood a hunter explaining it.
It's the hunt, literally, the *hunt*, not the kill. I have, very rarely in the past, gotten a little of the feel of that search for the prey and the thrill of closing in on the quarry. I have to confess that I was cheating a good bit, because I always used the biggest telephoto lens I could get my hands on. And it's been so long I doubt I could even find a 35mm SLR body that takes those old lens mounts.

Still, it helps me understand something of the thrill of the hunt, without the kill.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 10:07 PM
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102. not a hunter, but have fished a bit
I grew up around old-time hunters, those that had come through the Depression and hunted to have extra food. Hunting to them, and to me, as well, is much more of an experience similar to that of the American Indians. It gets one in touch with a certian primal, almost ritualistic, headspace.

You try to think like your prey, figure out what they are doing, where they are going to be. Then if you are lucky enough to find, say a deer (what I am familiar with), you look to get a clean shot which will drop the animal with minimal suffering. It is then returned to camp, where some dressing is done. One then takes the carcase to a butcher who can cut it up properly and prepare it for freezing or other forms of preservation.

This is about as far away as possible from canned hunts. They are disgusting.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:50 PM
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17. Someone who can slaughter tame animals like this ...
It just makes me thing he must be very callous when it comes to human life as well, whether sending troops on a bogous mission in Iraq or "letting" certain terrorists incidents occur in the US.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:50 PM
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18. Maybe someone should tell Cheney we have CLAY Pigeons for that...
...type of shooting. I agree with the posters above, this is NOT sport, just a very violent a sadistic passion for killing and death. :mad:
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Keseys Ghost Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:51 PM
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22. OOPS!
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:13 PM
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37. Hi Kesey's Ghost-welcome to DU!
Now...put...the.....gun.....down .... please :)
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Keseys Ghost Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:23 PM
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40. Thanks for the welcome
The gun is just for recreation...really...mmmmmm.....
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Keseys Ghost Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:04 PM
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50. Maybe
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:25 PM
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41. Obviously he already knows about trap shooting too




"Vice President Cheney shooting trap.

(And he is a great shot at it, too.)"

http://www.lakeoconeeshootingclub.com/Cheney%20Pictures...




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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:51 PM
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21. The Vice President is a SICKO
:puke: disgusting
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:54 PM
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24. Yes, it is a sign of mental illness
my father was a psychologist for a state prison, and he says that most serial killers start by killing or torturing small animals. Taking pleasure in the taking a life, and the inability of a person to feel compassion or empathy for other life forms, are all danger signs. At the very least, a person who kills animals for pleasure-especially tame and trusting ones-will make a dysfunctional parent. At the worst, he'll be a bloodthirsty mass murderer.

It's no surprise that Cheney enjoys torture.
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kayice Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:05 AM
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106. Wonder if Dick was a ...
bedwetter and liked to play with matches? LOL. They say those sick bastards have those 3 three in common.......torturing animals, bedwetting in youth, and obessed with fire-starting. :crazy:
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:56 PM
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25. Rather disturbing, when you look at it this way...n/t
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:06 PM
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35. Oh but Waite, isn't Cheney the darling of the Christan right??...
...anyone who considers this murderous sick fuck a Godly man is as sick and twisted as Cheney is. I hope that his black rotten decaying heart bursts as he creams in his pants the next time he kills something. Then, ROT in HELL you sick Bastard! :evilfrown:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:48 PM
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55. God put those birds here for us to kill
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 05:48 PM by Viva_La_Revolution
with our big manly guns. :sarcasm:

It makes up for the small peckers God gave them. /no sarcasm/
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:00 PM
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27. Big Bad Quail....... these people are murderous.
Several years ago while taking a walk on the grounds where I live (condo-townhome development),I spotted for the first and only time a group of quail. They just hung out peacefully as I walked by. Such tough game......
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DeaconBlues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:01 PM
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28. And they don't even bother hiking in order to find their targets
They just roll up in their vehicles and shoot at tamed birds. Its a wonder they even got out of the vehicles to do their killing.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:01 PM
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29. Thanks for posting
What a sick fuck. I thought hunting involved some sort of challenge, some sort of communing with nature and with the animals, etc. This is just blowing away birds who don't stand a chance.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:05 PM
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32. As I've said before about these people
They are lazy.

And they crave death and blood.

A Frightful combo there...
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:05 PM
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33. What a Sick Little Man
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 04:07 PM by stepnw1f
All neo-cons are this sick... It is a menatl illness we are witnessing, that has be ruining our country for some time.
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Montagnard Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:11 PM
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36. Thanks for this story
I was wondering if it was a tame bird hunt....

One other thing, I would never go hunting with Cheney...on a group hunt you always know where your companions are,you are concerned about their well being, Cheney doesn't give a shit about anyone but Cheney...so I am glad the guy wasn't harm seriously, but I do not feel for him otherwise, he took his like in his hands when he went out into the field with Cheney
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:21 PM
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39. Bush accepted an award from the main canned hunt organization in the US
When Bush was Governor of Texas, he accepted the award of "Governor Of The Year" from the Safari Club International. In fact, Poppy Bush went to their annual banquet in 1999 to accept the award on his son's behalf. Under Bush, Texas became the canned hunt capital of the world.

http://www.listnow.com/helpingpaws/articles/article_277...

"...Not familiar with the Safari Club? It consists of a group of people dedicated to the slaughter of our national wildlife; i.e. one of the most influential and extreme trophy hunting organizations in existence. Members get to compete for awards, such as the "Africa Big Five" award.

In order to win this award, the hunter merely needs to kill a lion, a leopard, an elephant, a rhinoceros and a Cape Buffalo. And one does not have to go out into the wilds to kill them either - you can go to what is known as a "canned Hunt" where the exotic animals are raised in captivity, hand-fed, trapped behind fences and shot by trophy hunters at point blank range. President Bush has welcomed the leaders of the Safari Club, as well as the leaders of about 20 other organizations, as his guests at his Texas ranch. Oh, and the Safari Club named George Bush as Governor of the Year when he was Governor of Texas. ..."
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schrodingers_cat Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:27 PM
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74. This is SOOO Carl Hiassen - right out of the book!!!!
Truth is indeed stranger than fiction. Crack this satirical author's books sometime for a truly 'big picture' view of this jackass mentality.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:25 PM
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43. That's nuts.
I can see shooting a couple to eat or even maybe one to stuff and put on the mantel... but 70?

That is sick. That's killing just to kill.

Oh, well, why am I surprised???
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:26 PM
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44. And what the hell is he going to do with 70 birds?
That is just insane.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:29 PM
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45. Cheney only wishes he could have hunted Buffalo from a train...
...with a gatling gun, or blown hundreds of passenger pigeons out of the sky in an afternoon.

But alas, you take what pleasures you can find (or purchase) nowdays.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:28 PM
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75. eyeing american indians also nt
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:30 PM
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46. Incredibly decadent behavior, and utterly indefensible. n/t
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DenaliDemocrat Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:34 PM
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47. I hunt a lot up here in Alaska
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 04:38 PM by DenaliDemocrat
As a matter of fact, my family lives almost exclusively on meat that I shoot or fish that I catch. Moose, caribou, deer, elk, ptarmigan, halibut, salmon, prawns, razor clams........any of the above are likely to be on my menu depending on what night you drop by. I love being outdoors, experiencing the Alaskan Bush, and I like knowing that I harvested the meat that my family is eating. I know where it came from, how it was treated after it was killed, and how it was butchered.

However, there is something absolutey wrong, sick, just totally fucked up about raising an animal in a pen and then "releasing" it to be shot. I have no respect for people who do this, and even though I hunt, I would be all in favor of outlawing the "canned hunting" nonsense.

On Edit: I take my kids out to participate in this, as I see harvesting your own foods very natural, and learning/experiencing nature an incredible thing. Life and death and eating an animal is the way of life. However, if one of my kids seemed to actually relish the killing of animals, I mean getting a thrill out of watching the bodies flop, I think I would discourage them from hunting. I know that there are people who like that aspects of it, but I would not want to be around them.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:55 PM
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49. Growing up in NY we also harvested some food from nature ...
It was very interesting to hear about hunting in Alaska as part of your household economy. Even though I am in New York City, we ate a lot of food we caught.

New York, where the Hudson River runs into the New York bight on the Atlantic is one of the richest fishing grounds on the East Coast. We had runs of mackerel, blue fish, flounder, fluke, blowfish, sea bass, porgy, and striped bass. We caught it and ate it all. My mother worked at the local school, and had the summers off and became an avid fisher-woman.

I always felt terrible if any fish we caught wasn't eventually eaten. We caught a lot of some species, but would give it away to neighbors when we got home to make sure it was used.

BTW Cheney I believe did donate the birds for some food bank or something. So waste isn't really the issue. For me its the desire to kill so much in one day, and the absolute lack of sport of killing tame animals. It really is sick.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:52 PM
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58. As long as you thank the soul of the animal
for nourishing your family, I don't have a problem with it.

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:58 PM
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63. You are a genuine hunter, not the same specie as Cheney the canned hunter
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 05:59 PM by glitch
He only hunts the tamed. And that goes for Bush, Bush Sr. and their hunting buddy Schwarzkopf too. Google their canned hunts if you want to get sick.

edit: canned, not caged. small diff.
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:39 PM
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48. We are insane!
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:07 PM
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51. That is truly fucked up
What perverse pleasure do they gain from such "sport"? When I want to relax, I bake some bread and make some soup, or take a bath or read a book. I don't slaughter little animals. It just gets worse every day with this crew, doesn't it.
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Keseys Ghost Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:19 PM
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52. The guy's a sportsman...SHOCK & AWE
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:52 PM
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57. Pacelle is actually the President and CEO of HSUS, not a V.P. and
he's dead right.

But then, "hunting" doesn't exist as a sport. "Shooting and killing" does, mostly. Just as it's not "canned hunting" it's just "slaughter."
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:57 PM
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61. I have a hunting outfit for Cheney to wear the 1st day of deer season
next year.

It consists of a coat made out of twigs and antlers.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:57 PM
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62. Grotesque
but we know that these are brutal people. This kind of killing for sport is nothing but primitive blood-lust...a way of looking at the world that translates into "others must die so that I may live."

We've got to get beyond the idea that this is what 'real men' do for fun.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 06:04 PM
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65. Know who I thought of when I read all this? Nugent..
If I recall,Ted Nugent, now living here in Tx, is all about Bow hunting, eating the kill, never for fun...He has occasional concerts around here, and usually the freepers go mad for the man. Hmmm....
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:03 AM
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123. I've often wondered just what 'the Nuge' thinks about canned hunts
I'm sure the man who wrote "Wango Tango" has an incredibly deep answer...

All right! It's zee Wango, zee Tango
1-2-3-4
Come on boys
Time to Wango

My baby she like to rock
My baby she like to roll
My baby she can dance all night
My baby got no control
She do the Wango Tango

My baby she can scream and shout
My baby she can move it out
My baby she can take a chance
My baby got a brand new dance

Wango Tango
Wango Tango
It's a Wango Tango
Ooooh yeah! (oooooh..)
Baby!


Deep...really deep.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:53 PM
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142. something tells me that even "the Nuge" would find this type of canned
slaughter utterly repulsive. There was no sportsmanship, no skill, no cunning. Nope, this was just aim your shotgun at 400 pen-raised, essentially tame pheasants. This wasn't meant to appeal to the hunter within, but the bloodlusting corporate psychopath, i.e., Darth Crashcart.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 06:05 PM
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67. Birds first.
Then man! :scared:


:rofl:


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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:55 PM
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97. Give the man a little credit!
At least he is starting to hunt prey that can shoot back!
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Rex_Goodheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 06:58 PM
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68. Hey, Dick...
If you want TRUE sport why don't you carry that shotgun through the streets of Baghdad?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:07 PM
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69. That's truly sick.
We have wild quails and pheasants around our house and I can't imagine why anyone would want to shoot them. The thought of slaughtering tame animals for sport is unthinkable. It explains why Cheney doesn't think twice about sending Americans to their deaths in an unjust war.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:20 PM
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72. It sounds like such a killing frenzy that he shot the other "hunter"
because he was out of control.

If he wants to shoot things up, he should invest in a video game.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:16 PM
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138. Yes. It was clearly an orgy of blood and destruction!
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:26 PM
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73. exerting self control-dont want a visit from the secret service nt
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:31 PM
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77. I jsut asked my hubby how places like this usually operate.
Do they usually let you kill as many game animals as you want, or are there some restrictions. His response..."It depends on how much money you have!"

"If you have the bucks, you can do damn near anything you want!"

So there you are. Money, power & influence!
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:45 PM
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80. Pay enough
and they might let you bag a lawyer.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:38 PM
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78. This was and is pathetic.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:43 PM
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79. Taking a hint from Mr. Swift
I am surprised they didn't bring in 500 Iraqi children to shoot.

After all, pheasants don't grow up and join al qaeda, and you know that Cheney can't eat the pheasants without getting his pump reamed of fat afterwards.

I mean, if they had shot 500 Iraqi future terrists, they could really feel like the were helping the war effort. This was just a gang of sadists blowing up birds.

For this they didn't even need to be able to shoot (and obviously the veep doesn't know how) a bag full of m80s a sack of bird seed, and a few cases of wild turkey would have sufficed.

Kids are much more of a challenge. You gotta know how to lead them, as they can really double back on ya a lot faster than a pheasant. And a smart kid can play dead. Never saw a pheasant do that.

:sarcasm:
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 10:00 PM
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99. Well there is the secret undisclosed location.
Who knows what he does there.

I am sure whatever it is, we would not be happy to hear about it.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:04 PM
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81. sick bastard - I'll pray for retribution tonight. n/t
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:12 PM
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82. Our TAXES pay for canned hunts!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:13 PM
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83. UGGHHH! What A Sick, Twisted Fucking Lunatic
n/t
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Ladyinblack Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:21 PM
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85. Very troubling
If he killed 70 birds in public, I can not help but wonder what he does in private. Killing to kill is a characteristic seen in people diagnosed as sociopathic.
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crowcalling Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:22 PM
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86. He likes death I guess - but why?
Wonder if it's because he is trying to suck their little pheasant souls into his own empty corpse as they are dying. Probably why he has that permanent sneer..

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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 03:09 AM
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110. simple: it makes him feel like GOD -- POWERFUL. Same reason why
serial killers love it. It's that rush...
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:40 PM
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88. Now do doubt that he is the spawn of Satan?
I knew he was pure evil.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:59 PM
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90. SICK fucking evil psychopath bastard
I'm just beyond words right now. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow. :nuke:
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:48 PM
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94. Not against hunting... but this is NOT HUNTING
a disgusting display nothing more...!!!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:54 PM
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96. decent sportsmen like to hunt
insecure little weaklings like to shoot

sick cowards like to kill
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:58 PM
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98. But...he gave Five Birds deferments .
:sarcasm:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 10:01 PM
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100. Which makes me wonder about the recent incident
If he's such a good shot how could he shoot the other guy on his recent trip? Especially since the guy was behind him? :shrug: It doesn't make much sense to me.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:53 AM
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105. Well, I don't think you have to be a very good shot to shoot
70 tame pheasants out of 500. They were probably all trapped in a pen with nowhere to hide (like fish in a barrel). He could've been aiming for one and hit another with those odds.

We all knew he was a sick fuck. This is just another dimension to his pure evil.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 10:04 PM
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101. Did he eat 70 pheasants all at once?
You would think he would lie low right now?
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:32 AM
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103. George W Bush as Hud
I recently saw Paul Newman in the 1963 movie Hud on our local PBS station. The defective, cruel, and mean character of Hud, as portrayed by Newman, was a perfect match for George W Bush (except in the Bush version, the role would be played by Alfred E Neuman). The turkey slaughter story reminds me of the scene in Hud where they blasted a herd of cattle they'd herded into a trench.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:34 AM
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104. Sick Fuck
One more reason to hate him. :puke:
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:44 AM
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107. I first learned about people doing this revolting shit in 1992
In a song by Megadeth , always wondered what kind of sick pathetic psycho's enjoyed this.



Now I know

Megadeth
From the CD
Countdown to Extinction
Mustaine/Menza/Ellefson/Friedman

Endangered species, caged in fright
Shot in cold blood, no chance to fight
The stage is set, now pay the price
An ego boost, don't think twice
Technology, the battle's unfair
You pull the hammer without a care
Squeeze the trigger that makes you Man
Pseudo-safari, the hunt is canned...
The hunt is canned


All are gone, all but one
No contest, nowhere to run
No more left, only one
This is it, this is the Countdown to Extinction

Tell the truth, you wouldn't dare
The skin and trophy, oh so rare
Silence speaks louder than words
Ignore the guilt, and take your turn
Liars anagram is "lairs"
Man you were never even there
Killed a few feet from the cages
Point blank, you're so courageous...
So courageous

All are gone, all but one
No contest, nowhere to run
No more left, only one
This is it, this is the Countdown to Extinction

One hour from now,
another species of life form
will disappear off the face of the planet
forever...and the rate is accelerating

All are gone, all but one
No contest, nowhere to run
No more left, only one
This is it, this is the Countdown to Extinction




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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:49 AM
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108. Indeed, we should not use the word hunter
this is NOT hunting
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 04:49 AM
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112. It's just good training for the boyz!
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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:24 AM
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113. Don't they have "Bag" limits? As a hunter, I know that most animals
you can hunt have seasons and limits on the number you can take. Call me crazy, but taking out nearly 500 birds in a hunting party in one day, and killing 70 birds personally seems, you know, just a tad exhorbitant. I also don't figure they were planning to personally EAT all 500 of those birds.

Hunting or butchery?

Can't find my NYS hunting regs at the moment, but I'll look for them as an example. Not that they would apply, and I don't know what the rules are for private retreats like this, but it just doesn't seem "right" any way you look at it. Furthermore, from the first day you pick up a gun, you should have been taught to know where you are pointing your gun and what is in your line of fire. A shotgun has limited range, so this hunter could not have been far from Cheney (probably no further than 40 yards). So he could see this small bird, but missed the 5 plus foot tall fellow standing right in front of it? Come on. Not good safe hunter etiquette either way.

He had the nerve to dog Kerry for his hunting trip. Kerry didn't "bag" any people on his expedition.

Olafr
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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 07:58 AM
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119. As an aside, I don't hunt game birds like this so don't have
much knowledge about it. I primarily hunt for deer and turkey, and certainly don't hunt for the thrill of the kill. It seems to me one should have a respect for the life one is taking and be greatful for the nourishment it can provide.

this sort of slaughter is NOT hunting. I noticed the articel I read said they got out of their vehicle to shoot the animals. So, let me see, their just tooling around in a sport vehicle of some sort, and hopping out to blast some birds and then getting shuttled around some more.

True sportsmen.

I can see Cheney, aiming his shotgun..."that one is Reid...that one is Durbin...that one is Valerie Plame...etc...."

Olafr
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 06:18 AM
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114. "I shot a man in Texas, just to watch him die."
You know, part of me really wonders whether that sick bastard Cheney shot this guy just to experience the thrill of shooting another human being and getting away with it. I mean, isn't that really an affirmation that you have the ultimate power? To be able to bag "the most dangerous game" and not have to face any consequences?

Cheney doesn't have a whole lot of time left on this Earth. Maybe he saw this as his last chance to fulfill this one last diseased fantasy.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 06:32 AM
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115. I guess it's a good thing he wasn't deer hunting.
His 78 yo quarry may not have survived if he'd been packing something bigger than birdshot.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 07:21 AM
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117. Bet he doesn't have a cat or dog....too tempting! nt
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 07:24 AM
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118. Humane Society - the new terrorist group, worse than Hamas...
:crazy:
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:11 AM
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120. It does sound sick -- Why not just do Skeet-Shooting?
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 08:15 AM by Armstead
It does seem sick to just release birds to shoot at as target practice.

I'm not a hunter, but I thought the idea was the hunt, and the stalking and outwitting of animals? It's not my cup of tea, but to each his own. However, to just blast awat at a bunch of poor animals released as targets at close range seems sick to me. Why not just shoot at non-living targets instead?

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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:21 AM
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121. Real Men kill defenseless birds and animals.
If you have never hunted them, you have no idea how ferocious a cornered quail or pheasant can be. They are especially nasty when wounded. Heroic hunters have been known to receive painful pecks on their fingers when in hand to talon combat with maddened birds peeping in rage.

Full body armor is highly recommended when indulging in the Manly sport of hunting. Bradley Fighting Vehicles should be used when going after more dangerous game like Geese or savage Deer.

Only politicians seeking the NRA vote should attempt posing with guns and dead animals for TV cameras. All other Real Men should fortify themselves with Coors before indulging in the sport of killing for pleasure. You never know when a murderous quail might come at you with bared teeth.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:30 AM
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122. It's disgusting
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 08:52 AM by donheld
:banghead:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:08 AM
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124. In all fairness, a daily diet of 66 souls to a day is what keeps him from
hell's gate...it's in his contract with lucifer He's makin' that diabolical sacrifice for freedom! :sarcasm:

I'm sure the extra 4 were just for good measure! :sarcasm:
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:28 AM
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125. Cheney, the best hunter all around
Hunting tame birds, nothing more manly than that, right?

:sarcasm:
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Gruenemann Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:35 AM
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126. The Origin of the Teddy Bear shows how low they've sunk
Teddy Rossevelt was presented with a sick old bear tied to a tree as 'game' to be 'hunted' and he refused to shoot it, thus the origin of the teddy bear. Now Republicans seek out such 'game.' It just goes to show how much they've sunk.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:06 PM
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130. Teddy was a real soldier
I'm quite sure that he had killed before in battle. He would know the causing death out of non-necessity is beyond barbaric.

Then again his comments against Italian Americans make me sick.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:02 PM
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129. Ok, this is just sick-ass bullshit!
This is not "hunting."

This is a depraved, violent asshole with an extremely overinflated sense of entitlement who enjoys killing just for the sake of killing. The weaker and more defenseless his victims, the better. Tame, farm raised birds?

Whatta piece of shit.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:53 PM
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131. There are "Animal Rights Activists" in the gop
Vegetarians, dog and cat rescuers, humane society types. We ought not let them forget this.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 03:03 PM
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135. "Cheney's got a gun"
- sung to the tune of "Janie's got a gun" This was on the radio today. The Bob and Tom show.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:02 AM
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139. So, Mr. Torture likes to slaughter things. nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:41 PM
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140. Kick. Sick fucker. nt
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:43 PM
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141. too bad there were people watching. You know he wanted to bite their
heads off and slurp the blood. Gross, I know, but consider the subject.
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