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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:06 PM
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DUer purduejake witnessed UFO reported on in Chicago Tribune today:
Edited on Mon Jan-01-07 11:41 PM by originalpckelly

UFO sighting at O'hare International



"I just finished reading "Voices of the Universe" by Suzanne Ward earlier this week and know many people are fans, so I thought this may be an appropriate place to post this message:

I'm an employee for a major airline at ORD and received a radio call from an employee concerning a flying object around his gate. I JUST finished reading Ward's book, so am really interested in such things. Anyway, I ran outside to see a dark metallic oval shaped disk hovering over the gate. I pointed it out to a colleague who agreed he hadn't seen anything like it before. I confirmed the sighting to our operations center and after about a minute, it zipped to the east and disappeared.

I drove over to the gate and the employees stated the object was rotating and looked like a metallic frisbee about 500-1000 feet directly above them. To make this even more interesting, nobody really looks directly up in our dangerous environment, but the employee said he felt compelled to look up for some unknown reason. The ceiling at the time was OVC 1900 ft. Our operations center was contacted and the pilots of the aircraft at the gate were notified and they too witnessed the object by opening the front windows and looking for themselves. 10-15 people witnessed this UFO and of all people, airline employees know what an airplane or helicopter looks like!

The FAA was contacted and there were no radar blips. A few of our employees were upset about this sighting, but were not afraid. They just had trouble accepting what they just saw and exactly what it means.

What do you think these displays are for? Why over the world's busiest airport in daylight of all places? Your thoughts?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=245&topic_id=30262&mesg_id=30262
^^Fixed link, to redirect to the main post, not a reply.

Here's the original story:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/columnists/chi-0701010141jan01,0,5874175.column?coll=chi-newsnationworldiraq-hed&vote27156872=1

purduejake, we want to talk to you! :-)
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:20 PM
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1. Someone was emotionally shaken by the sighting and "experienced some religious issues"
wtf??!!
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:22 PM
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3. There's no mention of UFOs or aliens in the Bible?
:shrug:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:27 PM
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5. Wheel in a wheel in the sky in Ezekiel
I've never really understood that, but it matches the description.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #3
58. How did Elijah
leave earth?
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #58
71. Was it the Whirlwind?
I looked up Elijah on wikipedia, but it gets real complicated.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:54 PM
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75. A flaming chariot n/t
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:58 PM
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79. A chariot separated them and a whirlwind took him up
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 03:01 PM by Annces
"And as they still went on and talked, behold, a chariot of fire and horses of fire separated the two of them. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." (2 Kings 2:11 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2000/20000716.htm


I have been listening to Johnny Cash song about Whirlwind, The Man Comes Around a lot lately.

Its alpha and omegas kingdom come
And the whirlwind is in the thorn trees
The virgins are all trimming their wicks
The whirlwind is in the thorn trees
It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks
Till Armageddon no shalam no shalom

Then the father hen will call his chicken's home
The wise man will bow down before the thorn and at his feet
They will cast the golden crowns
When the man comes around
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:40 PM
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9. AKA "You mean we're not alone in the universe? Did god create
other people on other planets? Do other planets have their own gods? What, we're not even the center of the universe? What, we don't own the whole universe through our personal god? What? What? What?"

I've long said that the discovery of even the most primitive form of single celled life will jolt the fundies down to their self righteous shoes.

I can't imagine what this one will do.

Oh, wait. CBN never tells them this stuff.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:44 PM
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13. They will just deny it and then become violent.
Often the primative psychological defense mechanism of denial is associated with violence against those perceived as the threat. This is why I fear our reaction to another lifeform would be counterproductive and probably disasterous. Best to stick with single-celled organism discoveries, which will allow for a gradual desensization to the prospect. This presupposes that there is something "out there."

J
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:14 AM
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24. LOL - atheist UFO believers making fun of fundies!!!
Nothing in the article implies it was a fundie,
nor does it say what the "religious issues" were.
That won't stop "rational" atheists from jumping to irrational conclusions!
LOL!

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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:56 AM
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32. Or some people believing in space aliens based on very little evidence.
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 01:57 AM by Tom Joad
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:45 AM
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65. I guess you skipped over my "presupposes something is actually out there"
Please read beyond opening sentences before forming a conclusion. My comments were based upon the assumption that there is something found. I NEVER INDICATED THAT I BELIEVE IN SPACE ALIENS...only that if they were to be found, that it would be dumbass fundies who would short-circuit and become violent upon hearing the news.

J
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #65
89. Ok, "if" those were aliens - HA HA HA HA HA!
You really think it was possible those were aliens? Ha ha ha!
You're not so different from fundies - there are plenty who believe there could be aliens too:
http://bibleuniverse.com/star_tour/beyond_the_light_years.asp
http://www.mrm.org/multimedia/text/aliens.html
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2964/salvation.html

There are a lot of skeptical atheists who have convinced themselves there can't be aliens - that we are alone in the universe. They are just as likely to "short-circuit and become violent upon hearing the news."

LOL!

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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:40 PM
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11. For Fundies other intelligent life would threaten their literal interpretations of the Bible.
If an intelligent lifeform, more advanced than us, makes itself known, then this would seriously threaten those who believe that "man was created in gOD's image." Aside from a few words noting that gOD made the heavens, the remainder of the Bible is very Earth-centric and "human" in its application.

At its core Xtianity is a grand delusion wrapped in a shroud of narcissitic fantasy.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:15 AM
Response to Reply #11
36. For anyone to believe this proves anything about life elsewhere is not based on
science, but foolishness.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:50 AM
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67. Same can be said of a religion that believes in an all-powerful Cloud Being
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 11:51 AM by NoodleyAppendage
Please explain the distinction between believing in space aliens (for which there is little to no proof) and believing in a diety (for which there is little to no proof)?

I never said I believed in space aliens. Only that those given to religious delusions would be the first to become violent at the prospect of their crumbling ideology crashing down upon their fragile psyche.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:29 AM
Response to Reply #11
38. A very cool SF novella of many years ago,
entitled Manticora had the premise that other planets had their own saviors, born to the intellignet species on the planets. One particular planet had a bizarre problem: its intelligent species was a type of praying mantis, and births consisted of hatchings of thousands of eggs. In other words, this planet had an embarrassment of riches where messiahs were concerned.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 10:22 AM
Response to Reply #11
59. Really?
How does that Good Book describe Elijah leaving earth?
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:56 AM
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21. something similar
I heard an interview which I think was with Linda Moulton Howe of Earthfiles. Anyway, either she or someone she was being interviewed with said that the U.S. government has much more extensive information on UFO's and aliens than they are telling. I believe this as a result of Roswell.

Anyway, one U.S. gov't employee who was present at Roswell told why this information has not been disseminated to the American public. That reason is that it shatters the basis for religion and does a lot of damage to basic societal beliefs that we have.

Here's the Earthfiles Web site. I don't know if the interview is there or where, but it's an interesting site:

http://earthfiles.com/index.cfm?category=Headline+News



Cher
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:20 PM
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2. Do you guys think it was a government aircraft?
I have a hunch it was that, but I can't rule out other possibilities.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:24 PM
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4. To close to Chicago
If it was Government they blew their cover.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:32 PM
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7. and why send it over an airport?
if it's secret why draw attention by sending it there?
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:40 PM
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12. See #10
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:36 PM
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8. Well, it appears there were no markings at all on the aircraft.
Whatever it was, it was not identifiable. If it was government, nobody on the ground would know due to lack of markings and words on the craft. It also left no radar signature according to the FAA.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:40 PM
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10. It could very well have been a test
If it were a military craft, surely one of the tasks would be to ascertain the ability of the craft to penetrate civilian air control.
ORD would be an ideal test.

This is one weird story.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #10
17. wow
but they certainly didn't succeed at being undetected, right?
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:13 AM
Response to Reply #17
35. They are so caught up in technology that Humint escapes them
they do not know what to do about Human Intelligence.

The Pentagon is trapped in its own big ol' fucked-up video game.

And that will eventually prove our own down-fall, military-wise.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:49 AM
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57. I'd rather opt for the fact that we've so screwed up our environment
that alien scientists have come down to see if they can help out.

If that's the case, Mr. or Mrs. Alien, if you're reading this... "PLEASE DON'T GO TO THE WHITEHOSUE! THOSE SONS OF BITCHES GOT US WHERE WE ARE TODAY!"

Does someone have Al Gore's number? Now, HE's the one they should visit.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:05 PM
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70. There are a lot of better ways to do a test like you suggest.
Why fly a (Hypothetical) highly secret craft over an area filled with trained observers and folks familiar with aircraft merely to test "Civilian Air Control"? If it was indeed a military aircraft, such a test could easily have been conducted in the remote areas of Utah or Nevada without having to subject themselves to independent scrutiny or sightings.

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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:10 AM
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22. That's what I would guess
What they are up to, I don't know, but there's no reason to assume it was "extraterrestrial".
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:57 AM
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68. agree, the neo con US military has drones that can hover and even

follow people and have voice contact with them. hover and look in windows, etc.

I read a couple of reports about them. of course a military person is on the other end and controls the drone, etc.

I saw something like this several yrs. ago. early morning about 5am still dark. It hovered over the street just above tree top on the street I was driving on, had a yellowish light. there was never a light there before or since.

it hovered as if looking at me, I had just got in the car, then it moved off behind the tree tops.

at the time I didn't think spaceship, I thought military.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:30 PM
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6. wow
Thanks for posting.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:47 PM
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14. That's crazy
What the hell happened?
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:53 PM
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15. This gets more and more interesting...
I wonder if anyone got it on camera? There's got to be more cameras per capita at an airport than almost anywhere else!
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:02 AM
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16. It's about time!!
They are coming to keep us from destoying ourselves and the earth God gave us to be the caretakers of!! There will be many , many more in times to come. To those who don't believe, who's to say these aren't God's messengers, otherwise know as Angels??? No I haven't gone over the edge. I've been having dreams of this since I was a child. This doesn't frighten me at all. Bush frightens me, and his "minions" DC
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mondo obscurius Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #16
78. Thank you. This is precisely
This is precisely the christian adaptation to an alien presence one might expect.

Nice helpful savior aliens = angels
Bad ugly mysterious aliens = demons

However, given the innate xenophobia of the christian ethos, in the two-thousand year old tradition of religious war and mayhem, calls would most certainly go out from many a big box pulpit to launch a godly attack on the visitors. If an alien presence was ever proved, the corporate sanctioned cristian sector would embrace a better and more enduring Bogey man than even the godless brown desert people of Earth.

Even if a true alien presence is never found or revealed, it would be easy enough at this point to fabricate one for the dumb masses. Cynic that I am, I expect it's only a matter of time before some corporate genius figures out a way to further entrench the defense/energy/surveillance/security industries by exploiting a fear of alien occupation.

The mind reals at the possibilities this new century holds.

Half-:sarcasm:
mo
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #78
80. You believe what you want, and I'll do the same. OK?
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 03:05 PM by discerning christian
( or whatever floats your boat ):thumbsup: :hi: on edit, if you re-read my post, you'll see that I said the aliens didn't scare me, bush does! I am also a Christian, (not a fundie sheep)
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mondo obscurius Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 04:05 PM
Response to Reply #80
83. Oh, not at all
Sorry if my post seemed personal. It wasn't meant to be directed AT you. I was just responding and adding to the dialog in my own obscure way.

How could I judge you as a person anyway? My alien implants start burning every time I do...

:toast:
mo


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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #83
85. Thanks!
:spray: :applause:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:14 AM
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18. Any pics? n/t
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:36 AM
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19. STOP AND BE FRIENDLY
Save us, Mr. Alien!
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:37 AM
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20. I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords
and would only remind them that the very rich are really much, much tastier than the rest of us.
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nyrnyr1994 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:12 AM
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23. Hopefully they havent read up on this one...
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:15 AM
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25. heh heh heh...eom
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Phrogman Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:24 AM
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26. Life was deliberately seeded on this planet by extraterrestrials a long time ago
They're just coming back to see if anything grew in this garden.
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:59 AM
Response to Reply #26
33. They're coming back for the harvest. Prepare yourself.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:49 AM
Response to Reply #33
40. McDonalds has turned us into a giant feedlot already.What else is the obesity epidemic for?
It's what I've been saying for a while now.

Hekate

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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:34 AM
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27. please oh please oh please
DO NOT TAKE THEM TO OUR 'LEADER'.
um, .....take them to hollywood.find an actor to play our leader.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:48 AM
Response to Reply #27
29. please oh please oh please ...
...TAKE OUR "LEADER." PLEASE!!!
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:47 AM
Response to Reply #29
39. Ooo, probe him! take him to the mother ship! nt
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:45 AM
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28. "...he felt compelled to look up for some unknown reason."
Okay. This will do it. This post will *definitely* cement my reputation on this board as a far-out lunatic. So having earned it already from other posts in the last 24 hours, I may as well just give it all I've got.

To wit:

Eighteen years ago, I was living on the outskirts of L.A., in a condominium that was on a ridge, with a narrow "valley" down below, and another expanse of land across the way. One night, I was reading in my living room, got up to get a drink of water in the kitchen, uncharacteristically did *not* turn on the light, and looked out the kitchen window at the open expanse of land on the other side of the gulch below where we lived. It had been raining, but I first thought that what I was seeing was a fire.

Before me there was a huge, glowing orange object, shaped like a new moon, rounded part down, and it was undulating up and down, and I remember the perception that it was almost like someone revving up the engine of a motorcycle, with energy moving around the object like smoke would with a motorcycle. I had the feeling that this object was *flirting* with me -- trying to get my attention.

There was total silence.

And I remember having the thought (Nope, this isn't rational): "The moon has come to Earth."

And then it instantaneously was gone and became a small glowing object way off in the distance, in the sky. In telling this story to some people I could trust through the years, I have used the above phrase again and again: "I felt compelled to look at the thing."

It continued appearing down close to the ground, just across from my window, and it appeared as big as a football field. And then it was gone again, glowing at a distance in the night sky.

At some point, my then-sixteen-year-old daughter came upstairs and we went out on our balcony together to witness this continuing "cosmic flirtation." I remember our standing there watching it for some time. And then I had the sense that my daughter got kind of bored and just went downstairs to her bedroom to read.

Her telling of the tale is that she was so frightened that she ran to the front door, and was crouching down in fear. We both have rather fuzzy memories of how this whole thing ended.

There's more...a lot more. And yes, I know Budd Hopkins and Whitley Strieber and all the MUFON folks. And I do not know what this all means. I am not a space goddess, as far as I know (but what do *I* know?). My daughter is an artist and a very solid, down-to-earth young woman, with a very skeptical streak. (Of course, I know there are those who think being an artist is right up there with being a UFO Nut. We can start a new thread about that! :) )

The odd thing (you want odd, you got odd) was that no one else in our whole condo complex came outside, or reported seeing this object to the police, or the fire station that was just about a block down the street from us. I called them to see if they saw it or had any reports from anyone who did. No, no one.

A friend called me the next day and said she saw a television report that there had been UFO sitings the night before in the Santa Monica area, which is a heartbeat away from upper Tampa Avenue, in Northridge, if you're piloting a spacecraft!

*^*^*^*^*^*^*^

My brother was in the Air Force, working as an aircraft mechanic in the mid-'60s at Walker Air Force Base in Roswell, New Mexico. He left Roswell at about midnight one night to drive to El Paso, where our parents lived. He knows what airplanes look like and how they behave. He says that a craft of a type he'd never observed hovered over his car all the way across the desert, sometimes getting out in front of him, sometimes being right over his car. He swears that no known aircraft at that time could move with the speed and in the way this craft did.

He was very late arriving in El Paso, and very shaken. He said that he expected to get home sometime in the night, but the folks were up and having breakfast when he arrived. At one point, in the telling of his encounter, he said to me: "That thing came right down on the road in front of me." He doesn't want to talk about his missing-time story.

*^*^*^*^*^*^
Anyone know about The Disclosure Project?

As I was sitting here writing this, I saw a banner show up, indicating that I was getting e-mail from a friend in San Francisco who follows that project's activities very closely. Here's what he just sent me:

Subject: NPR: Multiple witnesses report UFO at O'Hare. Feds silent.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6707250

Be sure to click on the "listen" button to hear the interview.Text


*^*^*^*^*^*^

Feeling depressed? Not to worry. You are not alone! And.."Feds silent."


Disclaimer: I wasn't feeling depressed when I had this experience. I don't take drugs of *any* kind, nor did I then. I don't smoke *anything*. Never have, never will. An occasional glass of wine is my forte, but I wasn't drinking anything that night. I am not *religious,* although I am very spiritual in the most time-honored sense of ...

...Well, this image just came to me, and it's perfect: Remember the scene in Roots where Kunta Kinte raises his newborn son up to the night sky and says, "Behold! The only thing greater than yourself!"?


Judy Barrett,
Citizen of The Cosmos


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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:10 AM
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34. It's not weird whatsoever. America needs to stop with this bullshit...
if you see something, say something. Don't be afraid. We ought to be curious about this, who knows maybe we'll find out something really interesting?

So no, you're not a "far-out lunatic," you just witnessed something. It's no more weird or kooky than seeing a volcano erupt, or a bird out your window. It was there, we just need to figure out what the hell it is.

Maybe it's not a vehicle, what if it's a living organism?

It seems a lot of people are curious about this, and it seems a lot of people are seeing something.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:28 AM
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46. Agree and disagree.
Face it, it is weird, that doesn't detract from anything else you've said.
Happy New Year!

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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 05:16 AM
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53. What if it's a living organism?
Great question. The sense of some kind of communication was very strong that night. The "compelled to look at it" part was not just that it was a strongly interesting happening, it was that I was being kind of gently, against my will, forced to participate.

Since this "thing" seemed to be only energy -- certainly I didn't see anything that looked like a biological entity (but maybe they were inside :) ) can we perhaps suppose that energy and consciousness are intertwined? Of course they are, and we need to figure that out, too.

It's one thing to say you saw a craft of some kind. It's another to move on over to the idea of communication or "abduction."

I have had classic textbook experiences that easily fit into the abduction category as we read about it. I've been invited to go on television and tell my story. I haven't done that because I don't know what my story is. I prefer to stay away from the madding UFO crowd that gathers in the desert to party. Whatever this is, it's deeply meaningful for our evolution as a people on this Earth. I think we must not claim the lesson until the teacher shows its face.

Maybe that's going to happen. Maybe that's why more and more people are "seeing things."

Thanks for writing!

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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 05:04 PM
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87. Thank You so much for sharing your story...
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 05:08 PM by Jokinomx
There are two types of people on this planet ... those who know and those who don't.

Most people don't want to know the truth about our reality. I have never had a personal sighting myself however, my Grandmother and Uncle did. Neither would make up a story like they told me, in fact they personally would rather have not talked about it. But I insisted and the complied.

They witnessed a craft in the sixties in a remote part of Michigan. They drew a picture of it for me and all I can say is that whoever these beings were they used a very advanced technology. Their personal story inspired me to research and study this topic for many years.

The answers are there for those that have an open mind...but be warned.. the reality of these beings is very disturbing. It does have a tendency to dismantle all previous belief systems and most people don't want that. That is why some witnesses to this event stated it had effected them in a religious way.... not necessarily a positive religious way.

To come to the understanding that we are not alone on the planet and that we are not the top of the intelligence ladder will cause deep concern in just about any individual.

That is why so many people laugh at the notion that "aliens" could be here. In fact, I don't like the term "aliens" because I feel that these beings have been here longer than modern humans. They have been here 10s of thousands of years if not 100s of thousands of years.

Anyway... again I thank you for having the courage to share your experience. This is what it will take for others to come forward and slowly but surely a majority of people will have the confidence to speak on what they have experienced or witnessed.

:toast:

P.S... a great book on that covers a this topic from the beginning..."The Gods of Eden" by William Bramely

Good luck in your search for answers....

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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:50 AM
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30. They are going to stop all wars, invite them to their planet... and they have this book
its called "To Serve Man". We haven't translated the rest of it yet. Anyway, in the meantime, they are getting many humans to visit this wonderous planet. What an experience that will be!
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:55 AM
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31. Oh god, wait, They translated the rest of that book. "To Serve Man"
It's a cookbook! No wonder they were being so helpful to make sure everyone had enough to eat!
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:21 AM
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37. I am here...
Shaking in my boots because I didn't talk to the media and this just exploded and I have to return to work tomorrow. I was hoping it would just go away.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:51 AM
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41. Hang in there. Let us know how it goes.
:hi:

Hekate

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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:56 AM
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43. Thank you thank you thank you.
Let this be a lesson for all the "regular" folks out there who use identifying information in their usernames. Please don't kick this or recommend it. I didn't go to the media and don't want to get in trouble for this... it made the FRONT PAGE, top fold of the Chicago Tribune. I just was seeking my DU family for some comfort and therapeutic discussion and look what this has become! :scared:
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:06 AM
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44. pj, you don't have anything to worry about
at least I don't think so

Did you report it to anyone at the airport?

I asked other questions on your original thread, was hoping you'd see them.

I think it's very cool that you saw this!
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:10 AM
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45. Practice being matter of fact before you go into work
As in: "Well, you know at least a dozen other folks saw the same thing. We were all talking about it at the time, but then we went on with our lives. If you (meaning your questioner) are curious, maybe you can figure out what it was yourself. I don't have any idea myself -- I just know I saw an oddly shaped object hovering about 500 feet, and so did other people at the same time."

I don't know if this helps, Jake, but I think the more matter of fact you are, the less sensational it will be for you. What others make of it -- you can't control that. I hope you're wrong about getting into some sort of trouble -- I know employers can be unpredictable, but they can hardly claim you were hallucinating if your co-workers saw the same thing.

Some kids I knew in college told me about an incident when they were in high school, just out for a walk at night. Something or other hovered over a nearby streetlamp, just hovering there for a couple of minutes as if observing them, before leaving. Brightly lit, round, hovering. Spooked them all right, and they all saw it.

I know I was joking around up-thread, but I do understand your concern.

Take care,

Hekate

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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:32 AM
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47. I'm going to tell them everything I know if they ask...
The only thing I regret is talking about it on here... I was careful not to mention the airline, names, etc. and NEVER anticipated this. I didn't even know of the mechanic, can't identify the pilots, and don't know who the manager was. I appreciate your post... thank you =)
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:51 AM
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50. Why are you afraid?
Is it illegal to post about something you saw? Were you told not to? Are we that repressive of a society, such that we can be told to not discuss when we see an anomolous flying object?

Please don't be afraid, you didn't do anything wrong!
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 04:29 AM
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51. Not illegal....
And even in my post on here I have been very careful to not reveal the identity of the airline, but somebody blew that and suddenly my contribution becomes more significant!

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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:54 AM
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42. Here's a good possibility...
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:32 AM
Response to Reply #42
48. Very cool link. Apply AI, and the Davis Turbocar technology -- n/t
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:44 AM
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49. If I catch one do you suppose they'll let me keep it?
:evilgrin:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:17 AM
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63. We'll have to ask about that. But if it does turn out to be a military...
craft, whoever was operating it should be in deep, deep shit. That could have collided with another an airplane.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:05 PM
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76. They are testing the limits of domestic surveilance...
... yet again.

It seems one of these things is going to have to crash into a crowded Wal-Mart or something before it becomes a political issue.

These silly boys have yet to realize the future of war is low-tech. They should have learned it in Viet Nam, on 9-11, in Afghanistan and Iraq...

Genghis Khan, the most powerful man of his time, may have been killed by a teenaged girl.

Such power is ultimately futile.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 05:01 AM
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52. the problem I have is why no pictures.... I would bet all those that saw it
had cell phones....

Just saying :shrug:

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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 08:25 AM
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54. You guys sure it wasn't Suri Cruise's new Christmas present?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:25 AM
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55. They obviously had a cloaking device malfunction.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:42 AM
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56. If it was there for a minute, you KNOW someone pullled out their
cellular phone and took a picture of it.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 10:48 AM
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60. I just finished reading "The Hunt for Zero Point" by Nick Cook..
I just finished reading this book last night. Nick Cook is (or was, the book was published in 2001) the aviation editor for Jane's Defence Weekly. The book details the antigravity research done by the Nazis during WWII, and the recruitment, by the U.S., of former Nazi scientists (Operation Paperclip) after the war.

From the flyleaf: "The ideal shape for a gravity-defying vehicle happens to be a perfect disk, making antigravity tests a possible explanation for numerous UFO sightings during the past fifty years." Cook suggests that reports of alien spacecraft may be disinformation to cover the government's work on antigravity propulsion systems.

This is a fascinating book. I recommend it.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:10 AM
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61. Witness? Hell...
I was on that UFO. I completely forget to take any pictures, so you'll just have to take my word for it.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:17 AM
Response to Reply #61
64. The witness, posted about it on Nov. 7 and wasn't the only person...
to see it.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:15 AM
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62. here is link to report by National UFO Reporting
This story has a lot of credibility. Amazing.

http://www.nuforc.org/
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 11:49 AM
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66. About 15 years ago, some neighbors and myself sighted a UFO right by our homes. To this day I cannot
see any other explanation than that it was either an alien craft or a craft created with technology that our government has, but hasn't made public.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:02 PM
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69. It might be possible to look on satellite images...
to find out if there was a cloud hole on the day of November 7. We'd have to find some high resolution images, but those are regularly taken by a number of imaging satellites.

I checked the goes pages, but they only go back as far as 21 days, and they are by far not high resolution images.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:23 PM
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72. I was playing frisbee with a friend in that area. We have a night glow
that is painted silver.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:27 PM
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73. They're Looking for Nuclear Wessels...
Oh, sorry. That was in San Francisco.
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:43 PM
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74. Two things...
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 01:45 PM by Phoonzang
1.)I'm not sure what people are getting at by asking why there are no photos. Maybe no one really had a camera. The only other option is that all those people are lying. They would have nothing to gain by that besides ridicule and possible loss of their jobs. Hell if they're were photos people would be asking "why are all UFO photos blurry".

2.)I find the secret military aircraft explaination hard to buy. The military has plenty of airspace to fly their prototypes around without being seen. Why fly it over one of the busiest airports in the world? Also, what are the chances that the military has been testing secret saucer-shaped objects for 60 years?

Ok...one more thing...It's not a joke. Making snide remarks about it does nothing to contribute to the discussing. Stop making fun of something that possibly has profound implications.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 04:40 PM
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86. ...maybe because it's not a prototype?
It wouldn't surprise me if there was something around the airport someone wanted to look at. This may have been an "oops" moment sparked by some operator's impatience, and now they are trying to cover it up, by, um, blowing smoke.

Oh well, one will crash into some trailer park or something eventually, and then there will be a big stink.
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 05:30 PM
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88. Thank You Phoonzang...
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 05:32 PM by Jokinomx
I was thinking the same thing. In fact... many times when people see such a bizarre event.. they simply are so in awe of the event they don't think of taking a picture until it is too late.

There are thousands of videos of UFOs from all over the world now adays. It is just most people don't care to know the truth.

They keep telling themselves that it can't be true...so it isn't. They continue to make fun of others that have seen objects in the sky that defy explanation and dismiss everyone as kooks. Our media doesn't help any.... this morning on the nationwide Bob and Tom radio show... they of course were making fun of those that claim to have seen a UFO.... Tom did admit that he thinks that most, like 90% are explainable.

It didn't dawn on him that all we need is ONE.... ONE sighting that is an actual craft from a highly intelligent race of beings.

Even our famous Project Blue Book couldn't eliminate all of the sightings they investigated..and they really stretched reality to explain them all...but they couldn't... so I have always maintained that the project proved that we are not alone...since there were several incidents that they couldn't explain.

Anyway.. thanks for adding rational thought to this thread...

:toast:
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:15 PM
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90. No problem. It's good to know that there are..
..others out there on DU that share the same views regarding this subject. I've also wondered why more people don't think about the point you mentioned. Even if 99.999999 percent of all UFO sightings were hoaxes, misidentifications, etc., if just one sighting were genuinely a vehicle from elsewhere, it would validate the whole "search". When one dismisses the whole subject as nonsense one risks missing that golden needle in a haystack...
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:27 PM
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77. I am the pilot of that alien spacecraft
Just thought I'd drop by to say I've been posting on DU for quite some time from the Glaktin Constellation. Thought I'd stop by O'Hare to see how the earthlings were handling the white fluffy stuff that clogs up the snarkilator on my RM-655 Galaxy Glider.

You guys really forked up your little Iraq thingy.

What's up with all those giant buildings with people bashing into each other wearing tights? The cheerleaders are hot, though.

Peace.

:hi:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:05 PM
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81. Did anyone get a pic of it? With all these cell phone/cameras these days...
I would think someone snapped one.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 03:07 PM
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82. This thread is useless without pictures.
I demand pictures.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 04:07 PM
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84. UFO vs weather?
Neither one sounds likely. Why are these the only choices? It's probably some sort of military aircraft.
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