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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:23 AM
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Laura Bush sinks her claws into Condi
Edited on Fri Dec-15-06 08:35 AM by kpete
Yer over the line, Mrs. Bushas in catfight

Norah ODonnell interviewed Laura Bush on MSNBC Live, and the first lady ripped the media about coverage of Iraq. How pre-ISG.but almost unreported were the first ladys snide remarks about First Rival Condi Rice


Mrs. Bush referenced Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and noted that while she would be a really good candidate (for president,) Rice is not interested in the job.

Probably because she is single, her parents are no longer living, shes an only child. You need a very supportive family and supportive friends to have this job, the First Lady said.


If you havent lived in the South, you may not pick up on the slicing and dicing going on here. Trust me. This is ugly.

http://seesdifferent.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/over-the-...
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:26 AM
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1. A reminder for Condi?
Who the real wife is?

Julie--not from the south
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:35 AM
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11. Laura is the work wife.
:rofl:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:26 AM
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2. Sorry kpete, but I don't see any slicing and dicing, and Ive lived in the South for 20 years.
Please explain.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:28 AM
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5. "Condi can't even get a man."
So she's not presidential material.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:24 PM
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85. Nailed it.
Mee-OW. :P
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:55 PM
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95. LOL!! But Laura, sweetheart, she has George!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #95
100. And pickled has george, too... and what
kind of "catch" was that? I'd rather have no one than the village creep from hell.
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 12:47 AM
Response to Reply #95
104. Only the "boyish" parts.
Somehow "manly" didn't seem appropriat with this chickenhawk.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:18 AM
Response to Reply #95
115. And that whimp is a man?
Where?
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:57 AM
Response to Reply #95
123. Condi describes GW's "hunk" quotient
:puke: :puke: :puke:

Questions and answers with Condleeza Rice:


Is President Bush (or as we like to call him around here "President Hunk") really as dreamy in real-life as he seems to be on Fox News? Please say he is! *swoon*

Dr. Condoleezza Rice:

You know, it's interesting how often I find myself fielding this question these days. Back when I first started working in the White House, all anyone wanted to know was how I could tell the difference between the President and his mother. But now, with two wars under his belt and who-knows-how-many more to come, Southern ladies such as yourself seem to find the President's humpability quotient to be directly proportional to the number of Arabiacs he orders killed. At this rate, I figure we only need to annihilate another 50,000 or so Muslims before People magazine declares him the "SEXIEST MAN ALIVE!"

As for me, I don't really notice such things. Why, even when I was elbow-deep in that flight suit arranging wadded-up tube socks around the First Giblets, the President was still little more than a meal ticket for me. Besides, for me to do my job right, it's necessary to maintain the kind of mental discipline that keeps my honey pot as arid as the hardscrabble patch of fire ant-infested prairie behind the President's Crawford stables where Mrs. Bush insists I sleep whenever I visit.

http://www.whitehouse.org/ask/crice.asp
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 12:40 AM
Response to Reply #5
102. She might even be a (gasp!) lesbian! n/t
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #102
132. I've heard that
but bushie is the one that likes to tell young men how pretty they are. :evilgrin:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 12:56 AM
Response to Reply #5
109. That is exactly my mom's reading. n/t
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:07 AM
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112. Just because it *could* be seen as offensive, doesn't mean that's the accurate intent.
It makes no sense in a discussion if presidential elections to talk about whether she can or can't get a man. Laura doesn't work that way, especially given her past comments about Condi. The basis for that conclusion is very weak.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:40 AM
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119. Laura didn't get HER name on an oil tanker


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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #5
136. Looks like, she is lacking in the "supportive friends" category as well n/t
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:35 AM
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12. "shes an only child" jumps out at me...
and I'm not from the South, either. However, I've seen some of the tactics kpete referred to.

Of course, we butcher and analyze all their words, so she might not have meant anything other than the fact she has no immediate family to rely on for support. It just sounded to me like she was letting her know she was too young and to stay in her place.

If I were Laura, some of those photos that were captured of the endearing looks between Geo and Condi would be enough to set me off.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #12
72. Isn't Laura an only child?
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 12:06 PM
Response to Reply #72
133. Oh but that is different
She is in her place as first lady, not president. ;-)
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:37 AM
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13. Someone who moved to the South said it the way of insulting someone
with sweet words.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:04 AM
Response to Reply #13
28. We have a term for it
The Nice Nasties.
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Lurking Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:58 AM
Response to Reply #28
51. "Bless her heart."
:evilgrin:
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #51
58. "you pore thang"
:evilgrin:
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #51
59. Just to clarify--that phrase is not always a negative. It's the context that matters.
"Bless your heart" can also be an expression of gratitude, sympathy or compassion.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #59
137. I agree, it can be a positive or a negative, depending on the circumstance n/t
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BamaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:44 AM
Response to Reply #51
121. I call this the Southern Belle Kiss of Death lol
"Bless his/her/your heart" means, dude! You better get the fuck outta my way or your life is over! :D It amazes me how many ppl don't get that lol.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 12:09 PM
Response to Reply #51
134. Now that's a baby.
Barbara Walters way of getting around telling you that your baby is ugly as sin. I hate it!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:48 AM
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18. Laura's comment deconstructed. This is small town "refined lady" version of trash talk.
Yes, it's pretty ugly. Rice is also from a small southern town--she'll get this. A society lady does NOT say another society lady is in anyway inadequate to her job. In public a lady should only say complimentary things about a friend of the family. Rice was part of Poppy's circle in his White House years--and as you know the Bushes always make personal friends & vassals out of their top employees(which to them makes more sense than hanging out with social peers who might not depend on them so much).

If a lady does get called upon to comment on another lady's performance and that performance is subpar, it's required that she say only complimentary things, nothing tougher than "she's managing quite welll in a very tough job," and really ought to blame the critics (who are lower class) for not understanding what a marvelous job she's doing or at worst note that she was thrown into a job where she was given no proper support. You only criticize someone if you're trying to cut them down. Otherwise, the inviolate rule is "kind words."

If she does manage to criticize another lady's work, the dead last thing she should ever, ever blame it on is her lack of family, lack of roots, lack of solid homelife. Commenting that a 50 year old woman is unmarried is the pinacle of social ugliness. My guess is that Rice, being an academic, considers herself a bit above such social pettiness. But she's got deep enough Southern roots that there's no way she doesn't get that Laura is officially Not Her Friend.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 11:02 AM
Response to Reply #18
53. Thanks for the detailed play by play
I appreciated it. She's a jerk, and so is Condi.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #18
67. But I am ROTFL --
Okay, I get it, it's a huge put down. But ya know what? I'm laughing hysterically because only a small percentage of anyone who even heard it will GET it. Stupid Southern Code Talk.

And I'm not putting down the South or Southerners. Just sayin' -- if you want to be clear, say it like it is, dammit!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #67
82. We're just not raised that way.
So, in essence you DID put down Southerners for not understanding that many Southern ladies of a certain class simply aren't raised - and don't know how - to "say it like it is."

I, as a Southern woman, am no lady and would have told Condi to stay the fuck away from my man, whilst telling the man that if he didn't like what the good Lord gave him in me, he could take his wandering pecker and cram it up his happy ass.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #18
105. Obvioulsy, Laura is no lady (nt)
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 12:50 AM
Response to Reply #18
107. You truely " nailed it!"
:toast:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:58 AM
Response to Reply #2
25. She just called her a bastard who has no friends or family...who like her and support her.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:27 AM
Response to Reply #25
44. And that she's a potential Homo?
God bless the woman who can stand to be near her.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:48 AM
Response to Reply #44
47. Yes. I forgot to add homo to that list. Buhwawa!
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #44
86. Oh snap!
:rofl:
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #25
75. AND a child n/t
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:05 AM
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31. i think the subject/title was more specious than the piece called for...
'Laura Bush Get Snippy & Snarky w/Condi Though As A Member Of The BFEE What's New About That?' would have been nearer the mark
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 11:21 AM
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56. I'm born and raised southern, for more years than you've lived there, and I know exactly what....
...the poster means. I'll translate, since your southern-dar is apparently malfunctioning:

"We don't think Condi should run (we've already decided to throw our support behind someone else), and besides, everybody's going to think she's a lesbian, and she's already got that black thing working against her."

Bush loyalty goes only one way (TO the Bushes). As soon as you're no longer useful, you're cast aside, usually in less than pleasant ways.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:16 PM
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66. The most discordant phrase for me
a midwesterner transplant to the NYC area is "supportive friends" - the implication that she doesn't have them is obvious. That is nasty.

It's interesting that it didn't even come up when Bob Kerrey was running that he was single at that point. I also think that Feingold would not be hurt by not being maried at this point.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #66
78. must be a midwestern thing because that was my reaction too
also a transplated midwesterner


If Pickles had stopped after the comments about the family, I would think it was just a bias against unmarried women stereotype kind of thing that the Rethugs (and some Dems) have a problem with. But Pickles was much, much uglier than that. I suspect Pickles is quite jealous of Rice. Can you imagine a stay-at-home husband saying something like this about, say, a male corporate VP with whom his wife works?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 07:48 AM
Response to Reply #66
126. Kucinich was single too when he ran
And it was seen as cute.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 07:48 AM
Response to Reply #66
127. As much time as Condi reportedly spends with the Bush family,
she might have been under the delusion that they were her supportive friends. I guess Laura's doing her a favor by clarifying that.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 11:11 AM
Response to Reply #127
129. good point
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #2
93. She was putting Condi in her place
and since Condi no longer has her own family, she better not start thinking she's part of the Bush's.

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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:32 AM
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46. It implies that Condi is gay.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 11:00 AM
Response to Reply #46
52. ahhhhh. Glad we have bilingual people here. thanks.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #52
62. I wish I had two tongues
:evilgrin:
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Lurking Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:28 PM
Response to Reply #62
63. We all wish you had two tongues.
:evilgrin:
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #3
68. "childless (absent W)" **snarf** That was pretty good.
Bu**sh** is more likely her pampered darling baby boy than any romantic interest. Laura should give thanks she can get someone to babysit.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:27 AM
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4. In effect, Laura is saying that Condi has no friends!
"You need very supportive family and supportive friends..."
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:29 AM
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6. Laura didn't say "bless her heart"
So I'm a bit confused, too.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:33 AM
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10. LOL
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #6
16. As a fellow southerner
good one! :rofl:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:04 AM
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30. Yeah, you've gotta have the "bless her heart" in there. That means it might not be a dig.
Though it still could be.

Laura's sooooo Kappa Kappa Gamma!
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:56 AM
Response to Reply #30
48. Actually Kappa Alpha Theta!!
Gotta love those Texas sororities
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #48
57. Would that make it a (wait for it)
KAT fight?

GDRFC

-Hoot
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:59 AM
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37. This southern woman agrees.
"Bless her heart" is the key to these kinds of slams.
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #6
40. OMG!! LOL!!
That was brilliant! :applause: :spray:
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 03:45 PM
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73. What does it mean
when people say "bless her heart?" My mother was from the South and said that often. What is it supposed to mean? A slam in disguise? condescension or what?

I must say that growing up in the NW with a mother from the south involved some code breaking but I guess I never got the "bless her heart." I thought it was a term of endearment. :crazy:
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:08 AM
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113. I lived in Tennessee for two years and heard this alot.
I heard "bless ITS heart" alot too. Like you, born and raised in the northern states, I thought it was a term of compassion. I never guessed it was any kind of a put-down, although it did always seem to preface some kind of comment indicating something/someone was "sub-par" somehow. Oh well, guess we've all learned now what "compassionate" means to these people now, as in "compassionate conservative".
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 11:59 AM
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131. I heard this too from my mother and she was a mid westerner
I think when it is said, like "bless her heart, she just can't help herself." it meant "she's wrong but you have to over look it because she is just not as strong, smart, etc as we are."
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:29 AM
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7. HAH!!! Oh, man...Laura Bush puts the "assive" in passive aggressive!!!
How on earth can some people still think of her as a sort of sweet librarian lady when she's so obviously such a nasty piece of work? :popcorn:
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:39 AM
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15. Right - when I see her genuinely laughing at her husband's
cruel sadistic jokes, I think she is pretty dark herself.
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:35 PM
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69. One can Almost understand why
the Little guy in the White House is such a major jerk when he is "Prezidentin".

Having to live with those two nasty women ,(Big Mama and Pickles), he probably gets nagged and harassed by them at home.

I worked for a guy, in my teenage years (1962), who was extremely hen-pecked at home, and was the nastiest SOB I had seen in all my 16 years.

:nopity:
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Kookaburra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:30 AM
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8. I caught it kpete...
She's good -- didn't even use the requisite "bless her heart" after the slam either. Ugh!!! I grew up around those kind of women, and SWORE I would never become one of them.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:31 AM
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9. Most definitely a dig...particularly the "single..only child" part.
Unlike the other poster, I've lived in the Deep South for 38 years; have dated many a Southern Belle; and Pickle's comments are prototypical of the Southern woman "backhand slap."

J
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:39 AM
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14. well if you F*ck "with" the president... the wife is going to find out, she's lucky it is only claws
in her..
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #14
88. LOL, no lead, the Secret Service frowns on First Ladies packing heat
and she has drivers now, so no bumper tag these days :evilgrin:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:41 PM
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92. she KILLED one cheating bastard.. broadsided him at high speed thru a stop sign and got away with it
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #92
101. Yes, I know, thus the reference to the fact that she has drivers now
and can't use her bumper.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:28 AM
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117. Laura already gave her blessings to Jeffie Gannon for Bush, she also does photoshots...
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:45 AM
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17. Oh man!
I'm from Eastern KY and even I can see the subtle (but brutal) jabs!

"Probably because she is single..." ("Condi can't get a man")
"...her parents are no longer living..." (Ouch!)
"...shes an only child..." ("She's a spoiled brat!")
"...You need a very supportive family and supportive friends..." ("Condi doesn't have any friends")
"...to have this job." ("George and I made it, Condi is a tag-along peon...Back off, Condi")



This is series!!!111!!!!1! :popcorn:
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Maggie_May Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:52 AM
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19. I just figured it out
Laura is jealous of Condi. Well just think about Laura has George as a husband. Condi doesn't have a crazed mother-in-law or brats for kids. And lets face it you know Condi has more shoes than Laura. Whats not to be jealous of?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:54 AM
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21. Rice may have more shoes... But Laura's got more hip waders.
And she fills them out better, too!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:08 AM
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41. Tweeeeet!!!! Flag on the play - the hip waders comment. nt
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:42 PM
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64. Condi has title of SoS and Laura is the first lady....
who has to go out and kiss people's asses. Yep...jealousy. Good one, Maggie May.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:53 AM
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20. Don't overplay the "my husb-- the president" business. Rice does date around.
The current most likely candidate is Peter McKay, reputedly "Ottawa's most eligible bachelor."
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:01 AM
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27. And I thought it was Alec Baldwin (or his CEO character from 30 Rock)
Edited on Fri Dec-15-06 09:02 AM by The Count
Looks to me there's a concerted effort here to "normalize" the Condalize (how can I resist?)
In case you missed it, the promo for that show hinted at THAT story line (or obscure reference)
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:10 AM
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34. Some shots of Pete & Condi on their date
Edited on Fri Dec-15-06 09:11 AM by Bucky
"If we're going dutch, then I'll just have a coffee."

McKay is an MP. Instead of "districts", Canadian legislators are elected from "ridings." So Dr. Rice got to thank the Honourable Mr McKay for inviting her up to see his riding. And perhaps then he got to thank her for letting him see her riding.

"Sorry, pops, no one talks to da secretary."

"I want to thank Peter for showing me this big tube."

"When you said 'meet the folks,' I assumed you meant your parents."

"Yes, Condi, that face there. Don't make it any more."
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QuestionAll... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 02:13 PM
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138. lol! Condi in 'houndstooth'. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:05 AM
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32. And for a moment, I thought you were serious.....nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:57 AM
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49. MoDo must be in therapy or detox to keep from using the "husb..." in one of her columns.
Since it happened at a private NYT event, no doubt they won't let her use it.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:55 AM
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22. a definite put down if ever there was one. Old Barbara Bush couldn'thave thought of a better one
her own self!

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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:59 AM
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26. Great challenge! Babs: "She is a beautiful woman whose skin color only reminds us
of how fortunate we are to live in a country where ANYBODY can climb"
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:29 AM
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45. OMG, you're scary
You have Bar down. Did you have to practice long to get that evil?

:rofl:
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 04:26 PM
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76. No. Once you go in Babs' mind, you NEVER forget!
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:24 PM
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99. Kinda like profiling serial killers, ain't it?
;)
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:55 AM
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23. Flattering with contempt, backhanded compliments - * is her husb...
Edited on Fri Dec-15-06 08:57 AM by The Count
I get it (even if I am not from the South). Gone are the days when Pickles used a car to make her points...
I guess she made some strides in her "Please don't divorce me" negotiations.
Does it mean they also revoked Jeffy's press pass?
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:55 AM
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24. The only thing that would have made her comments
even worse, would have been to add "bless her heart."
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:04 AM
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29. Interesting phraseology
Edited on Fri Dec-15-06 09:08 AM by Le Taz Hot
"sinks her claws" and "catfight." If those terms are not appropriate for Pelosi/Harmon, neither are they appropriate for Mrs. Bush/Condi.

On edit: Speeling
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:08 AM
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33. Why?Did Pelosi/Harman exchange personal remarks while fighting over some guy?
Edited on Fri Dec-15-06 09:08 AM by The Count
because if that happened, I missed it.
Which brings the interesting point: I very rarely saw the women put down terminology to deal with Condi re: her job. But this is obviously personal. The terminology more than applies.
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:49 AM
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35. Hell, I'm not from the South, but damn!
Even I picked up on that insult. Now, I'm not a fan of Condi, but geez, that was just plain rude of her to say...about anyone.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:56 AM
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36. Can't wait for the steel cage match
I expect Nero and his buddy Karl will be sitting ringside doing this:

:popcorn: :popcorn:
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:03 AM
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38. Ouch.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:06 AM
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39. at least she didn't call her "perfectly nice"..isn't that the kiss of death?
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:10 AM
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42. Well, georgie couldn't have gotten a job as a street sweeper
without "very supportive family and friends".

So I get where she's comin from!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:24 AM
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43. All she needed to make it perfect
"Bless her heart."
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:58 AM
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50. Yeah, you need people who help rig elections, silence the media
and generally clean up after your sorry ass to have this job.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 11:11 AM
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54. They smile in your face...
All the time they wanna take your place
The backsatabbers...

The O'Jay's got your number, Laura. :)
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 11:14 AM
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55. "Condi, You Are ALL ALONE IN THIS WORLD AND WORK FOR US
Don't you ever forget your place."

That was the message.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #55
61. That is exactly
How I read it -

Like minds with you - Beetwasher.

kp
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 12:01 PM
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60. Butter wouldn't melt in her mouth.
(Laura's, that is.)

I was raised in the South, too.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:19 PM
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84. Ah, yes. Laura does the classic
say something totally insulting, just follow it with "bless her heart" and you're still a lady.
"Why Condi couldn't attract a husband, have children, and doesn't have friends because she's one of those hard-edged "working women".
Bless her heart.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:50 PM
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65. I'm not from the South, but I certainly picked up on the
cattiness of those inappropriate remarks. All she had to say when asked the question was the part about Rice as a "really good candidate". That's all. The rest of the remarks were snarky and petty. I guess ole Laura is one prize bitch, southern magnolia.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:41 PM
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70. I would give ANYTHING to hear Condi's response to this
:rofl:
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:05 AM
Response to Reply #70
111. While taking off her wig and removing her earrings.......
"Oh no you di'n't, bitch!!"

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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 03:05 PM
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71. i'm certain some spokesperson will 'clarify' those remarks
her and georgie boy just can't speak at all without a script.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 03:53 PM
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74. So, our First Lady doesn't believe single people
or people who are only children have the right background to be president?
Unlike spoiled, entitled men from influential families?
I'm just not following her reasoning here.
Also, is she saying if your parents are deceased, you're also not a good candidate?
And she also is implying Condi has no friends.
Wow.
I guess ole Dubya did marry someone just like dear old Mama, didn't he?
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 07:45 PM
Response to Reply #74
80. why would anyone with a good heart, head or character marry *?
Someone could have, I supppose, but she would have left him long ago.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:10 PM
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81. This only child resents Pickles and Condi

I can't take either one of them.

Being an only child should not be a problem. If we look at GW, it would be better for this earth if his parents had not had any children.

Pickles should be ashamed.
She shouldn't talk about " the other woman" that way.

Wouldn't it be delicious if Condi and GW got married!
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 04:44 PM
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77. Some tabloid has been claiming Bush & Condi are having an affair
There's one national enquirer type tabloid (not sure which one) that seems to always have stuff about that every week. I always look at the covers of all of the magazines while in line at the grocery store and noticed there's been a bunch of articles about it. I always kind of snickered and thought it was probably b.s. - but maybe it's not so crazy after all.

I might have to stoop to buying one of them - much as I hate giving money to those outfits.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:39 PM
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91. (maybe not so crazy)





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LyndaG Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:03 AM
Response to Reply #77
110. Well ...
Remember the time Condi referred to W as her "husband"??!! Hmmmm ...
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 07:39 PM
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79. How long before they're sparring like Krystle and Alexis?
LOL
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:27 PM
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87. I'd pay to see that
n/t
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:18 PM
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83. they probably both think he's cheating on him with the other when he's really getting those scrapes
on his face from Jeff Gannon.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:12 AM
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114. OUCH !!
n/t
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seesdifferent Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:32 PM
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89. Olbermann picked up this story for tonight's show
KO on Countdown did a few minutes on this issue, had a guest commenter. They stopped just short of the catfight language, but did get into the issues raised here, particularly the "single" issue, but also touching on the "with friends like this..." issue.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:38 PM
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90. Hi Sees!!!
Welcome to DU

:hi:

:hi:
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seesdifferent Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:58 PM
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135. hey, back atcha
you undergrounders are alllll right !
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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:48 PM
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94. A New England version of this wouldn't be quite so
Edited on Fri Dec-15-06 08:48 PM by cadmium
nasty; Something to the effect that:

She's very nice, but she has been under a lot of pressure. I'm sure she misses California and misses her books.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:59 PM
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96. I would expect no less from
the scorned wife directed toward her husband's "squeeze".
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:23 PM
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97. "this job?" Shouldn't it be "that job?"
This seems self-aggrandizing.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:24 PM
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98. Oooohhh ow... ouch
this is quite the verbal catfight
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 12:44 AM
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103. " First Rival " bawahahahahaha !
:rofl:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 12:49 AM
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106. LOL!
Go get her Laura! :D

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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:52 AM
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122. Swamp'r! Your alive!
Long time no see! :hug:
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 12:52 AM
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108. How does the South have anything to do with this?
Edited on Sat Dec-16-06 01:27 AM by Infinite Hope
To me it says "she doesn't have the stereotypical family association that the public likes to see in a candidate." Laura's spoke very favorably of Condi before. There's nothing to make this seem like a snide remark. Laura's talked candidly about candidates and their pros/cons before...this is nothing new.

This statement alone provides no solid basis for negative meaning....especially viewing it in light of past comments, it's very much just an explicit statement of fact meant to indicate that while Laura would like to see Condi run, it would be difficult for her given public mentality toward candidates.

Do you really think Laura, of all people, would be discussing presidential politics in a nation-wide broadcast and make snide remarks about not being able to get a man? It makes no sense. It has nothing to do with presidential politics. That's not Laura, ever-poised. If it were Falwell, then perhaps. But Laura? I think such negative intent is very far-fetched. She wouldn't say something like that in a major broadcast when discussiong a serious issue (she sticks to serious discussion....that's her method). Links:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/13/laura.bush /
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/13/200306.sht...
http://www.ovaloffice2008.com/2006/01/condoleezza-rice-...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/20...

I don't see how being from the South makes this any more significant...maybe it's allowing you to see it in a unintended context? I live in North Carolina. Elaborate please.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #108
128. please read through the numerous posts above
that elaborate and explain alternative interpretations different from yours.

Please note that she didn't merely make comments about supportive family. She also claimed Rice did not have supportive friends. She didn't talk about what the public likes to see; she talked about what candidates must have, which she claimed Rice lacks.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:21 AM
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116. Chevron named an oil tanker after Rice, perhaps Rice can hire some of her girlfriends
Like Rove inviting Jeffy Gannon over to the whitehouse.

Rice is top shelf when it comes to the neocon loyalty, it seeems that it's time to test the waters and become familiar with a display of confidence to which many of the $$$ doners noticing from the side lines.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:30 AM
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118. ouch! condi-you have no "supportive friends"
wow! dig those claws in deeper pickles
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:41 AM
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120. Doesn't this sound like a scene from BEDTIME FOR BONZO?
"Bonzo is sleeping with ME tonight!"

"Oh no you don't! He's MY husband!"
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:59 AM
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124. Condi never killed her high school boyfriend either, right? n/t
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 02:36 AM
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125. As a single person,

FUCK YOU PICKLED POOP

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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 11:24 AM
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130. Every time Pickles opens her mouth...
She knocks the level playing field for women back 30 years....SUFU :banghead:
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