It turns out that the Contra-Cocaine thing is TRUE

[ck4829]

Oliver North and associates knew the Contras were bringing cocaine into the US.

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/nsaebb2.htm

Honduran DC-6 is being used for drug runs into the US


$14M to finance arms came from drugs

[wildbilln864]

1. No kidding!

:hi:

[nam78_two]

2. heh

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2894581


Synchronicity...

[wildbilln864]

3. and still going on today!

Please look here!

[radwriter0555]

48. and no one will even notice, will they?

They just don't get it. This shit is all real.... ya can't make it up, it's so fantastic.

[Jackpine Radical]

4. K&R

Ollie North always scared the hell out of me, even moreso than Gordon Liddy. Liddy was always small-time and batshit crazy, a transparent tool of the smart people. Not so Ollie, who puts up such a slick front. He is such a cool, self-righteous goddam psychopath.

[TayTay]

39. And remember he accused Robb of peddling drugs in '94

When North ran against Chuck Robb for that Virginia Senate seat. He is a shameless bastard as well.

[wildbilln864]

41. in one hundred percent agreement with you..

and here's a kick!

[Jcrowley]

5. K & R n/t

[derby378]

6. I think his security goons even rushed some woman who asked him about it

He was speaking at a church in California. One woman stood up and asked him about his drug-running operation. He said something snarky like, "I'll be happy to answer your questions after my presenation, if that's okay with you." That was the cue for his hired muscle to descend upon the poor woman and haul her out of the church like a sack of potatoes.

[TomInTib]

7. "What about the cocaine?" during the Senate hearings.

The guy got 75 years for interfering with a Senate investigation.

[Mythsaje]

10. Seventy-Five years?

Kinda tells you where that particular "Democratic" Senate's priorities were.

[alfredo]

14. Kerry was the one that blew the lid on that story.

[blm]

45. Webb's report came out in 96 - Clinton WH covered it up for Poppy Bush and was

actually still letting his CIA operation still continue while they looked the other way, and sicced the rest of the press on Webb who was treated as a nutcase. A Pulitzer Prize winning reporter was sliced and diced publically with Clinton WH aiding and abetting the takedown of Webb.

[4bucksagallon]

8. I thought that was already a given. Is he still denying that or his electronic security service,or..

his kids schooling. I guess it's not illegal for reptiles as long as they think the laws are "wrong", so I am going to take a lesson from them and ignore the laws I think are "wrong". Makes sense to me.

[peacetalksforall]

15. When you take a close look at the arrogance of North,

Poindexter, Sr., Reagan, Liddy, Eliot and all the other operatives then and compare them to the arrogance of the PNAC boys - a person has to ask where the arrogance and confidence comes from. What ever gave them the authority to flaunt their crimes to openly and blatantly?

It scares me to think why they feel they can strut their stuff like they do.

They know something we don't and I believe it is that our souls may be owned by them more than we realize. And it must mean, that their baron heads have instilled that confidence in them.

They never seemed to mind that they got caught and I don't think PNAC cares that they have destroyed Iraqis.our kids, our credit, our standing, our futures.

They don't seem to care to be known as criminals.

[EFerrari]

20. Some of them ARE the PNAC boys -- like Abrams.

Look at who we have running the defense department! I was just reading up on Gates tonight. Looks like he helped funnel money to bin Laden through Pakistani intelligence. You know, the same guys that funneled money to Ata?

I won't even bother with the TFH smiley.

[ftr23532]

23. For some additional connections between the Iran Contra team...

...and 9/11, http://fortherecordessays.blogspot.com/2006/11/part-11-opaque-world-of-clearstream_11.html">go here and if you don't feel like reading through a bunch on the Clearstream money-laundering affair, skip down to the "Bin Laden's Clearstream Connection" section an go from there. It's like blast from the past.

[EFerrari]

24. Thanks. I want to find out if there are any IranContra felons

who AREN'T back in the government so I can call my senator and ask why, lol.

[wildbilln864]

30. A PNAC Primer....

A little old but interesting site.

[blm]

42. And now his cousin, Dan, is running MSNBC.

.

[Mythsaje]

9. Color me

not at all surprised.

[Warpy]

11. It's still happening

That phony flight school Atta was attending smelled strongly of a CIA drug importation operation. The speed with which it closed up and the total disappearance of most of the people involved is beyond suspicious, as is Jebbie's confiscation of their records, paperwork that simply vanished once Jeb's goons had hauled it away.

This is one of the areas that has me donning a tinfoil beanie. There are just too many unanswered questions, to many disappeared people, and too much vanished paperwork.

I don't have any answers for any of it, but I do have a whole lot of questions.

[thingfisher]

34. I don't know how anyone can read the

Dan Hopsicker site at Madcowmorning news and not get the willys. If he knows so much about these weird connections how can the law enforcement people not know about it also? Unless they are willfully ignorant?

The same people keep turning up year after year in criminal activities linked to intelligence agency activities. Why none of this ever gets any real attention from the government is a mystery unless one is prepared to believe the worst case scenario conspiracy theory.

[ftr23532]

12. Volume II of the CIA's written assessment of the trafficking charges...

...was quietly and with no announcement uploaded to their https://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/cocaine/contents.html">website on October 8, 1998. http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/10/08/impeachment.advancer/">Guess what else was in the news that day that kind of grabbed all the attention ;-)

[tridim]

16. PILOTS, COMPANIES, AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS

WORKING FOR COMPANIES USED TO SUPPORT THE CONTRA PROGRAM
https://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/cocaine/pilots.html#9

(Paragraphs 913 to 961 removed)

Wonder which companies and individuals they censored?

[ftr23532]

19. and here's a part from the "South Front Contras" section

that reminds us that there's potentially a lot more agencies than the CIA (or parts of it) that https://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/cocaine/south.html">use the drug trade:

...
Moises Nunez

# Background. During the 1980s, Cuban-American Moises Nunez was affiliated--either as an owner or a senior manager--with three seafood companies: Productos Del Atlantico in Limon, Costa Rica; Ocean Hunter/Mr. Shrimp in Miami; and Frigorificos De Puntarenas in Puntarenas, Costa Rica. Frigorificos was among the companies that were used by the Department of State in the mid-1980s to channel humanitarian aid to the Contras. In the mid-1980s, Nunez was also a narcotics officer with the Government of Costa Rica.

# Allegations of Drug Trafficking. According to a November 10, 1986 DEA Investigation Report, the DEA office in Costa Rica had, over two or three years, "received information from various sources regarding Nunez' alleged involvement in cocaine smuggling through Frigorificos De Puntarenas." The DEA Report noted that Nunez had entered the United States from Costa Rica in late 1985 in the company of a documented money launderer and that Nunez' name had been found among the personal papers of an individual arrested in connection with the seizure of cocaine.

...

# On March 25, 1987, CIA questioned Nunez about narcotics trafficking allegations against him. Nunez revealed that since 1985, he had engaged in a clandestine relationship with the National Security Council (NSC). Nunez refused to elaborate on the nature of these actions, but indicated it was difficult to answer questions relating to his involvement in narcotics trafficking because of the specific tasks he had performed at the direction of the NSC. Nunez refused to identify the NSC officials with whom he had been involved.

# Headquarters cabled in April 1987 that a decision had been made to "debrief" Nunez regarding the revelations he had made. The next day however, a Headquarters cable stated that "Headquarters has decided against . . . debriefing Nunez." The cable offered no explanation for the decision.

# Then-CATF Compliance Officer and Policy and Plans Chief Louis Dupart does not recall why the decision was made not to send anyone to debrief Nunez. He says, however, that the Agency position was not to get involved in this matter, and to turn it over to others because "it had nothing to do with the Agency, but with the National Security Council. We. . . . told Congress and Walsh. That's all we had to do. It was someone else's problem."
...

what a mess.

[stansnark]

17. wasn't that report released 1 hour after ...

the house voted to impeach clinton? sounds like clinton was sending the senate a clear message.

[ftr23532]

18. that's something I hadn't thought of...

...I had interpreted it as the CIA's leaders using the media frenzy to buy time and put some news "freshness" distance between the release of this report and its discussion in the media because there's a lot of somewhat damning admissions in that report when it's parsed. But that would be pretty interesting if it was also quiet signal to the GOP since it had to be released at some point and the timing could have sent a message.

[Patchuli]

25. Sick G.O.P. then and sick G.O.P. now

The things they find acceptable and unacceptable never cease to boggle my mind.

[AJ9000]

13. And Gary Webb was hounded by the "liberal" NYT, WP, and LAT for saying so

until he finally committed suicide - his career in shambles.

[Judi Lynn]

22. Gary Webb's Wikipedia profile here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb


Dead December 10, 2004. What a goddamned pity.

[blm]

43. That was in 96 - Clinton administration covered up for Poppy and made sure press

targeted Webb as a fantasist. Two years later, the CIA documents backed up Webb, but media never acknowledged it so Clinton and Poppy succeeded in keeping the story from blowing up.

[killbotfactory]

46. Suicide by two shots to the face...

Yeah... that doesn't raise any red flags.

On December 10, 2004, he was found dead from two gunshot wounds to the head. Sacramento County coroner Robert Lyons determined that it was suicide. Webb's ex-wife, Sue Bell, said that Webb had been depressed for some time over his inability to get a job at another major newspaper. <8> Despite Webb's death being recorded as a suicide by the coroner, there is still controversy as to whether it was a suicide or assassination. Many have pointed to the fact that Webb was shot not once, but twice to the face, which is extremely odd in cases of suicide. At the time leading up to his death, Webb was reported as to be working on another piece, and had mentioned to friends that he was under surveillance and constantly being tailed, had been receiving death threats, and had his house broken into. On one occasion, Webb confronted two men he described as 'government people' that were scaling the pipes on the side of his house; subsequently, the men took off running.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb

[wildbilln864]

21. great discussion!

Thanks and K&R!

[formercia]

26. Ollie North, Knight of Malta

When will it sink in?

[underpants]

31. -

[formercia]

32. Ollie North's Note Book

My boss was an ex-marine and he used to keep a journal just like that.

[ftr23532]

37. Bill Casey too!

Bill Casey and a http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2894588&mesg_id=2908046">whole lot of others. I've come across these guys before, but I hadn't taken too close a look at them. It's sinking in for me...:yoiks:

[formercia]

38. If it walks like a duck.....

The boys have tried to take over this country a number of times before. Do we want to go down this road again?

Time to put an end to this bullshit.

[rman]

27. no shit.

Well, it's always good to bring attention to cases such as this one.

[wildbilln864]

28. kick

4 exposure!

[Chimichurri]

29. Yet there he is - on Fox news, all free-like.

[wildbilln864]

33. who knew?

:shrug:

[zreosumgame]

35. through Panama, which is why Poppy invade it

since noriega had the goods on him so he was not allowed (and still not allowed) to talk to anyone.

[Mich Otter]

36. Did anyone doubt it?

Come on, the whole BCCI deal?

[SpiralHawk]

40. republicon hypocrites - no end of them

moralizing in public, being degenerate deviants in private.

Now that the chickenhawk cons are ginning up for a war with Iran, who can forget that Super Traior Ollie North gave Iran our US Hawk missiles -- which the Iranians can use to shoot down our sons and daughters.

Thanks a pantload, Ollie. You are a traitor to our men and women in uniform, and to the USA.

[Imagevision]

44. Reagan allows drugs to enter the US. while Nancy just said to say "NO"

This is part of the foundation of my amerika...

[ftr23532]

47. whereas I just say....

..."KICK"!