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Founders Know Best Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:24 PM
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Impeachment LTTE's all over the nation! Impeachment is a viable option
http://www.dailypressandargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061126/OPINION03/611260334/1014/OPINION
Impeachment is a viable option

Impeachment is not off the table, Nancy Pelosi. Congress must investigate and exercise oversight to the most corrupt regime in American history.

The list of abuses created and implemented by Vice President Dick Cheney and President George W. Bush is long indeed but includes billions of dollars in no-bid contracts; changing laws on torture to themselves escape punishment later; weakening environmental laws again to line their own pockets and those of their friends in the oil, gas and logging industries; and putting Americans in danger everywhere on Earth by thumbing their noses at long-accepted international laws, treaties, protocols, Geneva Conventions, etc. Did I forget lying to the world to carry-out a pre-emptive war to avenge Daddy in Iraq? This war was planned before G.W. came to office. Impeach!

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http://www.dailypressandargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061126/OPINION03/611260334/1014/OPINION
Dear Editor: One of several reasons for electing Democrats to the upcoming Congress was to make sure that President Bush and Vice President Cheney would have to account for all the crimes they have committed against this government and against the people of the United States - as well as the world.

If nothing is done to impeach them for their fraudulent, horrendous behavior, we essentially are saying that we will let any vice president and president get by with any impeachable offense as we do not want to ripple the waters - we don't want to cause any problems, because it may be difficult - or it may cause people not to vote for Dems again.

What these two top men have done is commit treasonous actions toward our country! This Congress is constitutionally required to investigate this administration if there is any reason to believe they have committed fraudulent acts in their tenure of governing. This is not at anyone's option - this is your constitutional responsibility.

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http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061111/OPINION/611110312/1047
I reminiscence about the old days when America was a place for people from different countries to look up to and someday hope to be a part of.
I now look with complete disdain at what has happened under the reign of a dictator running loose as our president.
At one time, the United States was the most revered and admired country in the world. Now, it is the most hated nation. President Bush has turned the nation into the most arrogant and bullying country in the world. Bush has run roughshod over Iraq and caused the death of nearly 3,000 U.S. servicemen and women….
Impeach this egotistic maniac before we are at war with every foreign power in the world.
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http://www.mcall.com/news/opinion/letters/all-colemannov25,0,1457136.story?coll=all-newsopinionletters-hed
When Bill Clinton was president, Congress tried to impeach him because he lied about a sex act. George Bush’s ‘’regime'’ has included a war based on next-to-nothing evidence that has killed thousands of Americans and innocent Iraqi citizens….

What’s happening to Bush? Demand action. We need everyone involved.
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http://www.winonadailynews.com/articles/2006/11/22/opinion/letters/letter1.txt
There are a number of reasons why Bush and Cheney could and should be investigated, impeached and convicted of high crimes against humanity and the United States Constitution.

Bush and Cheney have lied more often than they have told the truth about the illegal and immoral war in Iraq. Put them under oath and see how long their noses get. If this pair is not convicted of crimes against our nation and humanity, future leaders of our country will feel free to start other immoral wars while our hands and minds continue to be stained with the blood of humanity that will never wash clean.

If Bush and Cheney are not convicted for their crimes, our integrity and our freedom will soon disappear.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:28 PM
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1. I haven't commented on impeachment that I can remember but
if we are ever to be forgiven by future generations of Americans and redeem ourselves to history, Bush and company must be impeached. I believe, however, that the need to impeach will be borne out as a result of investigations.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 01:38 AM
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15. But there's nothing to "investigate"
There really is nothing to "investigate" when it comes to Geneva violations and illegal spying. The regime admits and "defends" these clearly impeachable offenses -- in direct contradiction to rulings by the USSC and the FISA court. An emperor doesn't get more naked than this.

The "investigations" question is whether to hold "impeachment hearings" or "open-ended fact-finding hearings" on specific matters (that may or may not lead to impeachment charges).

Doing the former (while not even "required") could well be helpful to bringing more of the public (already a majority) and even Republicans back into the reality-based community where impeachment is imperative to defend the Constitution and begin to Redeem Our National Soul.

Doing the latter displays weakness and sends the message that there is some uncertainty about the ongoing reality that is staring us in the face. That is why the "off the table" comment is so damaging. It is a self-defeating prophesy regardless of whether or not there's some "strategery" behind it. If you don't broach the accusation, you garner zero attention or moral support for the activity.

The public is already way ahead of the LieberDems on this:


Because they're not being gaslighted by the DC/Euphemedia Wurlitzer. They already know that the never-elected, never-legitimate regime is the biggest obstacle to improvement in any situation, foreign or domestic.

Impeachment IS our positive agenda.

It is our ONLY moral, patriotic option.

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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:42 AM
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17. "...and even Republicans back into the reality-based community."
We keep hearing from a lot of people that "we don't have the votes to impeach." A lot of Republicans distanced themselves from Bush in this last election, and I think many of them are taking a realistic look at their political futures, as well as where the country is heading, and they don't like it.

We must proceed *as if* we have the votes. "Build a field and they will come." The field is the moral leadership that we must push our newly elected Congress to display. If we have to build a moat around Nancy Pelosi to curb some of her bipartisan impulses (read that "colluding with the enemy"), then so be it. :) I don't like categorizing people as friends or enemies, but we have to take a stand against the criminality of the Bush administration!

RW Christians seem to be abandoning the religious leaders who are being exposed for the hypocrites that they are. With any luck, there will be more of that when investigations reveal the nature of the abuses on the part of Bush, et al., which abuses have hit people in the pocketbook, caused moral indignation, or both!
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:28 PM
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2. Impeachment is imperative. - n/t
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:41 PM
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3. Investigate, Then Impeach, Then Send Them to the Hague


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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:43 PM
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5. That's the image I'm talking about that needs to be in the
history books to comply with the sentiment in my first post in this thread.
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:42 PM
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4. Investigate - Investigate - Investigate Under Oath !
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:43 PM
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6. Those of you old enough to remember
NOT me, I am going from history books... can we all say Watergate? That came from the same sense of it HAS to be done

Let them investigate and as more and more crap surfaces they will gain the political capital they need
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:43 PM
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7. Watergate was picnic compared to what's coming for Bush.
Edited on Sun Nov-26-06 11:44 PM by Texas Explorer
Nixon didn't do time. I believe Bush's crimes will dictate prison time.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:49 PM
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9. Only becuase Ford pardoned him
but it is absolutely batshit crazy when you long for Nixon's days... this is how bad things have gotten

;-)
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 11:11 PM
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23. I was a high school senior when Watergate hearings started
W is so much worse than Nixon it is hard for me to comprehend how we got into such a situation.

Nixon was a paranoid, secretive politician who would do anything to win an election. He had that much in common with BushCo.

Some of Nixon's actions in the Vietnam war and Watergate were criminal, but they are such petty offenses compared to BushCo. And yes, Nixon had to be impeached. Once the facts go out, his removal was like a glacier calving icebergs into the sea, slow and unstoppable.

Hopefully, the same fate awaits BushCo.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:48 PM
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8. To DUers who are fearful beyond belief of doing the right thing:
What will you say to your grown-up child, when she asks you why you didn't do anything about Cheney when you had the goods on him, and you had the chance. Because you let him off, he came back 20 years later to advise a future jackass POTUS, and start another mendacious war.

Are we so stupid and cowardly that Kissinger's advisory role to the administration doesn't IMMEDIATELY end this argument, unanimously in favor of impeachment-directed investigations?

Do we have no sense of obligation to future Americans at all, to stop it now, rather than letting them drift through the years, to resurface in the future, and perpetrate MORE crimes?

Fucking irresponsible cowards.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:50 PM
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10. Trust me, tomorrow I will be writing the next
in a series of letters to my reps... they are gonna get tired of raedying the I word from me... but that is what it will take
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:54 PM
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11. If you want impeachment, the public have to be behind it.
This is one way to ratchet up that support.

Like in 1974, there has to be an ever rising chorus calling for the removal of the these crooks. This is especially true since, without public support, there will be no articles of impeachment from this Congress. The latter may be a regrettable truth, but it is an undeniable one. Without a significant cry of public support, the Congress will not and should not impeach anybody.

Let's work the system, DUers. Make them realize that we're all behind them.

Keep those cards and letters going...
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 12:07 AM
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12. Cards, letters, and freewayblogs
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 12:43 AM
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14. Right, freeway blogs, too.
Paint the sky if you can.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:29 AM
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19. God want's Bush Impeached
was up for only 24 hours on Cape-
someone replaced it with God Bless our Pres
turkey yakfest barf
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 02:35 PM
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21. God Bless our Pres
Asks to be made into "God less our Pres"
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:46 AM
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18. Hear, hear!
A letter a day (or more) keeps appeasement away!

And the phone ain't bad, either! :)
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 12:31 AM
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13. Welcome to DU, Founders Know Best!
:patriot:

:toast:

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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:35 AM
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16. Welcome to DU. Great post.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:10 AM
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20. I'm all for impeachment
But remember, that's different than removal from office.

Bush appointee John Roberts would be presiding over Bush's trial.
Then it would be necessary to get ALL DEMOCRATS + Joe Lieberman + 9 Republicans to vote Bush out of office.

As for impeaching Cheney....
The Constitution only says the Chief Justice presides over a presidential impeachment trial. All other trials would be headed by the president of the Senate, who is, DICK CHENEY.

So, in theory, Cheney would preside over his own impeachment trial.

I'm sure this would be challenged and decided by the Supreme Court. (unfortunately I can guess how the Kennedy/Scalia/Alito/Roberts/Thomas majority would rule)

It's easy to say Impeach, Indict, Imprison! But there are obstacles.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 06:17 PM
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22. Viable? That's a good one! Like morning following nightfall being a
plausible scenario, you mean?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:37 PM
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24. GOTTA kick this. It absolutely IS an option. It's the ONLY option
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 01:38 PM by calimary
if we're ever to recover our national dignity and our moral conscience.

Hell, if we're ever to recover, PERIOD.
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