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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:09 PM
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Hippies still trying to ruin the country
As a proud flower child and leftie loonie myself - I had to post this -kpete

Hippies still trying to ruin the country
By Jenean Mcbrearty
CONTRIBUTING COLUMNIST
America won't win another war until the 1960s flower children are pushing up petunias.

Radicalized, the flower children morphed into lefty loonies who now masquerade as social progressives. No matter what they rename themselves, however, their agenda hasn't changed.

They still want utopia, and it wouldn't be worth mentioning except that their naivetŽ has aged into a persistent denial of reality that may have devastating consequences.

For example, consider their continued belief that America's armed forces are neo-Nazi stormtroopers who delight in burning babies to further the aims of imperialistic corporations.

Such nonsense, now treated as legitimate by the left-leaning media, denigrates the patriotic values and sincerity of half the nation. It undermines the war effort, insults the dead and the survivors of battle and their families, and supports the aims of the enemy. Translated into immigration or national defense policy, it is an invitation to the world to destroy our country.

more nonsense at:
http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/editorial/15986574.htm
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:11 PM
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1. Why are they so afraid of us?
Why are they so afraid of the idea of living in peace and harmony with other people?

Isn't this what their Jesus teaches?

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:23 PM
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15. The flowers we put in their rifle barrels
might cause a backfire? I thought only Bugs Bunny's finger could do that.
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evilgenius602 Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:12 PM
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2. ahhhh go play in traffic
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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:14 PM
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8. Does your mommy know you're on her computer ?
Hmmmmmm ?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:13 PM
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3. I wonder what planet Jenean lives on
What kind of spelling is that for the name, anyway?
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:13 PM
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4. knock it off, ya damn dirty hippies!
what's the deal with blaming the hippies? it's like these people are pathological because the van broke down in Branson on the way to Woodstock or something.

i don't get it.
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let us vote Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:14 PM
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5. Have you hear about the military personnel who are on trial for such crimes?
In Fallujah they dropped white phosphorus on children and babies and burned off their flesh. If decency makes a person a hippie, then hopefully the hippies will sent all the non-hippies to Guantanamo.
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sal paradise Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:14 PM
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6. Yeah, it's clearly pacifists that are botching the Iraq war...
makes a lot of sense. It's defintely not hawks and misguided politicians that are causing all of our problems overseas. (sarcasm)
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:14 PM
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7. I thought perhaps it was satire.
But I fear they are serious.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:15 PM
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9. Well, it's obvious, isn't it?
Hippies fragged the budget, got us into an unwinnable war, and circumvented the Constitution at every turn.

Oh, wait. That's the other guys.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:21 PM
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14. Hell it couldn't be the hippies they're all in jail for pot!
While Bush is going around torturing people and causing Shock and Awe like Nixon was!
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autorock Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:16 PM
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10. Kentucky needs an enema
I don't think I've seen such a huge compilation of right-wing cliches in a single article. It's borderline incoherent.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:17 PM
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13. "borderline" - Ha.. . . . . .n/t
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:16 PM
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11. I wear my hippie badge with honor
it took me going to the 'nam to earn it though
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:26 PM
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17. Word!
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:17 PM
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12. Oooh Utopia....what a HORRIBLE place that would
be....
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:27 PM
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20. Where the streets are paved with gold and the soul of man NEVER dies?
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 07:27 PM by Hubert Flottz
Utopia = Heaven...one man's trash is another man's heaven. I like cloud 9 it beats the hell out of Bushit!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:31 PM
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22. Like who would want to
live in the garden on eden? All those beautiful men and women running around naked all the time. I mean that would be awful.

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:37 PM
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27. Right...
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 07:38 PM by Hubert Flottz
Why would any sane person have chosen Utopia over all the fine things in Vietnam back in the day?

Edit... Now you know, why I never want to "grow up!"
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:25 PM
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16. The author has admitted she was wrong
Ms. McBrearty,

Q: Whose life is more important: the 12-year-old Iraqi firing an Uzi or a soldier from Kentucky? A: They're equally important. Until people like you realize that fact there is no hope for peace.

As a matter of fact, most Iraqis are just like you are--they are willing give their lives in defense of their country. That is why we will lose the war in Iraq--and why millions of "lefty loonies" like me tried to prevent it in the first place. As it turns out, we were right, and you were wrong.

Now I will have to disappoint you by admitting that although I'm much too young to be a hippie, I'm more than happy to take up their cause. I'll be spending my life fighting to keep "righty loonies" like you from killing off the rest of the world.

It must be disappointing to know you can't force people to be what you want them to be.

wtmusic

McBrearty writes back:

It is easy to say you did everything you could to prevent the war. What, exactly, did you do? Vote democrat? Gosh, that's brave. But, my article was not about the Iraqi war. It was about the coming real threat from Iran and N. Korea. It was about the Marxist neo-Communists trying to win through anti-militarism what they cannot win in the market-place of ideas: a "social utopia". If you are not a radicalized hippy, then the article does not apply to you. If you are a radicalized hippy, well, I'll pray for you.

It is easy to say the lives of children with weapons are as important to a Kentucky soldier. You're not the one staring down the barrel of his gun.

My point is, when FORCED to make a choice, what would you choose? NOT choosing is a choice. It's a choice to die. It shouldn'tbe necessary to make that choice, but that kind of idealism doesn't make the choice go away in the face of fascism.

I have made my choice. I believe that my child's life is more important than an Iraqi child's life. My country comes first over others' countries. My way of life is better than others' way of life - and if they try to destroy my chlild, my country, my way of life, then I will kill them or die trying. At least, I will honor and thank the brave people who maKe it possible for me and you to disagree. When the first Irani nuclear weapon explodes in America, you hand the Iranis a flower, I'll get my gun.

Regards
Jenean


Jenean,

Re: "the coming real threat from Iran and North Korea"--that was exactly the same hysterical tone we heard in 2003 when the president was busy selling his war of opportunity as necessary to the nation's security. And even assuming Iraq had something to do with 9/11 (they didn't), what's the score now? 3,000 dead on 9/11; some half a million dead from our illegal invasion. We have given both countries more reason to be afraid, to arm themselves, than they have ever given us.

Some of the things I did to try to prevent the war were: repeatedly telephone/write/fax my representatives; participate in demonstrations; stand on a street corner by myself with a sandwich sign that said, "No War in Iraq" (I got the finger from many Americans, and thanked by Iraqi nationals), produce an antiwar television commercial on my own dime and have it played in 3 national radio markets (total cost to me: about $6,000). Kind of pointless, wasn't it? I did it because I knew this was where we would end up, and it was all I could do. The only reason I can sleep at night is because I can honestly say I tried. I'm currently supporting three Iraqi orphans who were likely orphaned by American bombs.

So you can continue believing they want to destroy your child, your country, your way of life, all of the hysterical fearmongering--but I won't have any part of it. Your own tax dollars have destroyed more lives than you'll ever know.

wtmusic

You sir, are a very foolish person.

You, who undoubtedly supported our attack on Iraq and the ongoing disaster which followed, have a right to call me "foolish" based on what again?

Just to repeat: I was right, you were wrong.

Get used to it. Get over it. It is people like you, not "hippies", who are ruining the America I knew and loved.

OK you were right and I was wrong.

There you have it.
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PreacherCasey Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:33 PM
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24. Thank you for posting this.
This says it all right here. The straight dope from the reptilian brain: cold, callous, ignorant, short-sighted selfishness. It chills my bones to read type of garbage.


"I have made my choice. I believe that my child's life is more important than an Iraqi child's life. My country comes first over others' countries. My way of life is better than others' way of life - and if they try to destroy my chlild, my country, my way of life, then I will kill them or die trying. At least, I will honor and thank the brave people who maKe it possible for me and you to disagree. When the first Irani nuclear weapon explodes in America, you hand the Iranis a flower, I'll get my gun."


THIS is what we are fighting, both in the terrorists and HERE in America.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 02:33 PM
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44. While I would like to think she agreed with you,
I'm sure she still sees you as a "smelly hippy." And while I can understand how she would value her child's life more than that of another, I can't agree with the idea that an American child is worth more than an Iraqi child.
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PreacherCasey Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:27 PM
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18. Jenean is right. Obviously the only solution is to indiscriminately kill
everyone in Iraq, Iran, and North Korea.

After all, it's not like they're human beings, they're our enemies.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:27 PM
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19. it really gets me how the label the OBVIOUS as nonsense
Why dont they say that breathing is nonsense too???

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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:28 PM
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21. This Hippie wannabe was born in 1980
That wackjob has a long time to wait until I am pushing up petunias.
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:48 PM
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28. A hippie in spirt is a real hippie, not a wannabe.
Welcome to the Bus, from an old hippie! Nice to have you aboard.
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:32 PM
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23. Here's my email to her.
Right, and your not a right leaning neo con. You may have forgotten but your half lost the election to those hippies. You might want to check them out. They actually believe that every religion has values. That people actually have the right to worship whosover they choose. That peace is always better than war. Just ask the families of those who have died in this illegal war. If all you care about is winning something, why don't you try winning in a way that will help America. Maybe work on Global Warming, or something important. Your article is just an attack on American citizens who have just as much worth as you. Only, they seem to be a little smarter than you.



Thanks for your time.
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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:33 PM
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25. Sometimes I wonder
if some of these really rabid right-wingers work in glue factories. I can actually understand how someone would become a hippie, but how someone would get so warped and divorced from reality as this writer has is beyond my comprehension. I mean, what do they get out of it? Is it the fascism thing, where it works because it makes losers feel like the winners?
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:34 PM
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26. Wow! I didn't realize I had that much power!
After reading that column in its entirety, I just gotta ask: Wtf is she smoking?!?!

If her tirade contained anything remotely resembling internal logic and coherence, I might be tempted to attempt a rebuttal. Unfortunately, it's nothing more than a frenzied flinging about of assorted unconnected bogeymen (terrorism, Lenin, social justice, Buddhism, etc.) -- it would be like trying to pin down the shadows cast by a revolving disco mirror ball.

I'm just thankful that after my misspent youth of sex, drugs and rock'n'roll, I am still far more capable of critical thought than this poor benighted ignoramous.

Oh, and the "military-industrial complex"? Yeah, it was that infamous hippie, President Dwight D. Eisenhower who warned us about it -- from Haight-Asbury, while tripping on acid, protesting the Vietnam War...

:eyes:
sw
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:48 PM
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29. We had a LTTE very similar to this in
our local paper today. How weird. Who's feeding this tripe to the RWingers?
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:50 PM
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30. Once the left leaning media is mentioned, you know
that she is off her rocker.
:silly:
Use talking points much Jenean?
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PreacherCasey Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:59 PM
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31. Flaming ignorance kick. n/t
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Minnesota_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:59 PM
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32. "..until the 1960s flower children are pushing up petunias." How Coulterish of Jenean
I wonder how many RW nutcases she expects to act on this provocative statement?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:05 PM
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33. Yeah. I had a lot of trouble cashing all those checks from the Kremlin.
The ones I'm getting from Fidel and Hugo now hardly pay the mortgage on the McMansion and I had to settle for a used Hummer.
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carlydenise Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:13 PM
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34. I wish John Lennon were alive today......
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 08:15 PM by carlydenise
I just finished watching "John Lennon-imagine", and watched a couple of interviews he had with journalists during his bed peace days, journalists who were surprisingly similar in value to this jeanean person. I would love to see this jeanean mclooney go head to head with John Lennon. I am a hippy, was one as a child, to see this rubbish printed in a paper, but no articles about ending war and helping restore peace,helping our homeless people living in a country she so proudly boasts about fighting for, is beyond me. I guess this is what sells papers and lines the pockets of corporate America. Oh well.
Carly
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:41 PM
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35. I have a couple of observations...
Jenean, that paragon of what is righteous and holy, says this..."Whose life is more important: the 12-year-old Iraqi firing an Uzi or a soldier from Kentucky?"

I would like to give her an answer. Jenean, the main difference in your comparison, is that there are NO 12 year old American children holding Uzis in order to fight against an invasion of America by Iraq. I know this is a hard concept to wrap what passes as your mind around, but we waged an illegal war against a country who had not hurt us. There were absolutely no Iraqis, 12 or otherwise, who brought down the WTC buildings.

I know, it's tempting for those who are unable to think rationally, to refuse to distinguish between Osama bin Laden, a Saudi, and Saddam Hussein, an Iraqi Sunni Muslim. Al Qaeda was not in Iraq. Osama and Saddam loathed each other. We can not avenge the attacks of 9-11 by invading and occupying a third country. There were no WMDs, zilch, and no reason, other than Chimp's deranged lust for war, and oil, and power. Perhaps, though, for you, and others who lack the ability to use logic, they are all Muslims, so if one Muslim attacked us, we can let him go at Tora Bora, and attack the country your president has been talking about waging war against even before he stole the election of 2000. Destroying one country is as good as destroying another, right?

Now, if another country, a South American country, decided to attack us for some specious reason, when we had not shown any hostility against them, would you enjoy reading the translation of a Latina mother snidely saying that her child was worth more than your child, who just might, after having this country attacked, and half a million or more killed, say that if your 12 year old took up a gun to defend this country, that would be wrong? That her child's life was worth more, even though her country had invaded yours?

Well, because I'm in my sixties, I suppose that my views are more in line with the views of hippies. You can say whatever you want about us, screech whatever you want, and we shake our heads, sad at your inability to use reason and common sense. You would have made an excellent citizen in Germany in the years leading up to WWII. That is not meant as a compliment. For me, every child is equally important in the eyes of God, so which one is important in the eyes of an ignorant bigot does not interest me.

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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:56 PM
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36. Jenean....
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 08:57 PM by BlackVelvet04
you ignorant slut.

I just love how these dry-drunk types always revert to calling those who oppose them loonies. Typical alcoholic argument when backed into a corner and proved to be wrong.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:58 PM
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37. agenda hasn't changed.
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 09:03 PM by G_j
so love and peace still suck?
:shrug:
What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding

By: Elvis Costello

As I walk through
This wicked world
Searchin’ for light in the darkness of insanity.

I ask myself
Is all hope lost?
Is there only pain and hatred and misery?

And each time I feel like this inside,
There’s one thing I wanna know:
What’s so funny ’bout peace love & understanding? ohhhh
What’s so funny ’bout peace love & understanding?

And as I walked on
Through troubled times
My spirit gets so downhearted sometimes
So where are the strong
And who are the trusted?
And where is the harmony?
Sweet harmony.

’Cause each time I feel it slippin’ away, just makes me wanna cry.
What’s so funny ’bout peace love & understanding? ohhhh
What’s so funny ’bout peace love & understanding?

So where are the strong?
And who are the trusted?
And where is the harmony?
Sweet harmony.

’Cause each time I feel it slippin’ away, just makes me wanna cry.
What’s so funny ’bout peace love & understanding? ohhhh
What’s so funny ’bout peace love & understanding? ohhhh
What’s so funny ’bout peace love & understanding?



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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:00 PM
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38. Of course they do -- to those who are invested in hate and war.
Hey, GJ, great to "see" you! :loveya:

sw
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:02 PM
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40. :-)
hey sw !! LOVE !! G_j
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:01 PM
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39. What a steaming pile of straw man drivel.
"Here, let me throw out a whole bunch of shit that I've completely made up, and then proceed to talk about how awful it is!"

I've heard homeless people arguing with mailboxes that have made more sense.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:10 PM
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41. I had several email exchanges with this uh, person...
She is a lost cause. I promise.
:puke:
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:14 PM
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42. Did that guy from Weekly World News ghost write this?
Ed Anger?
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 02:26 PM
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43. Iraqis use Israeli weapons?
Whose life is more important: the 12-year-old Iraqi firing an Uzi

So, Iraqis use Israeli weapons?

I have NEVER seen footage of an Uzi in Iraq...
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