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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:00 PM
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Land Shark: DEFENDING DEMOCRACY OR DEMOCRACY DENIED? LESSONS OF 2006
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DEFENDING DEMOCRACY OR DEMOCRACY DENIED?

LESSONS OF 2006



In the last year we’ve learned a lot about electronic elections. After one federal electronic election nationally just in the past month (and two in San Diego California in the past five months) we specifically know a lot more about how elections operate under a "paper trail/audit” regime than we did even just a month ago.

I’ve worked a lot as an election lawyer in San Diego County in the past five months. Just ask citizens and activists in San Diego if paper trails and audits work – they are having to litigate just to try to get at the paper trails in a disputed election from June 2006, much less the paper trails from the recent November election. The elections officials ran out of absentee and paper ballots as voters opted out whenever they could. Officials retaliated by not even starting to count paper ballots until the Thursday after the election, deliberately creating a second class status for paper, in which the Democratic candidate for Congress Francine Busby won, in favor of the electronic ballots which were effectively deemed, like preferred stock, entitled to be counted first on election day along with certain absentee ballots that also leaned Republican. Clearly, elections officials love the lack of accountability that electronic elections provide, but this puts them in direct conflict with the need of the people to supervise and oversee their own elections.

As one of the few lawyers in America who has litigated election contests involving electronic voting, it’s my opinion that the common results of any disputed electronic election will be (1) the officials will try to stall or prevent embarrassing information from getting out at any time when it would really matter, and (2) the paper ballots and paper trails will be suppressed and discouraged in favor of low-accountability and high-convenience electronic ballots, and (3) in all likelihood the statutes of limitation on election contests, which run in 10 to 60 days after the election, will expire long before the paper trails are accessed and fully analyzed. Moreover, many analysts are still hard at work on the November 2006 election, even with information that is readily available the analysis of the same takes time. Just out today is “Landslide Denied”, showing the Dems would have done better under a fair system, while the pundits inexplicably blame the exit polls for oversampling Democrats when a scientific approach requires, at the very least, both exit polls and elections to be scrutinized, the pundits simply assume the fault lies with exit polls and examine neither elections nor exit polls. http://electiondefensealliance.org/landslide_denied_exit_polls_vs_vote_count_2006

With Congress poised to act swiftly in January, it’s time to revisit the Holt Bill (HR 550) in light of what has been learned in the recent federal election, especially the two federal elections in San Diego featuring touchscreens from Diebold, complete with paper trails and manual audits. In San Diego, the only main differences between the Holt bill and present California law are that a 2+% audit would happen under Holt instead of a 1% CA audit at present, source code would be disclosed under Holt, and Holt would strengthen the federal Executive’s role or the Administration’s role in elections by strengthening and making permanent the Election Assistance Commission (EAC).

I can't stress enough that we've essentially seen the (Holt) future in San Diego, we've litigated the future in San Diego, and it’s not good. Sleepovers are king and create deniability for the viruses or hacks that are never disclosed by escrowed source code. San Diego features exit poll discrepancies according to a Zogby exit poll www.bradblog.com/?p=3772 and the elections officials don't care, they just trumpet their checks and balances and meaningless tests and audits. These tests are all meaningless because it doesn’t matter what happens on a test day or test conditions, the only thing that matters is what the computers are told to do on Election Day.

In the end, and in several major and independent ways, the American people are really being taken for fools. They are being offered a few choices, but only so long as they give up on the one thing that we can never give up in a real democracy: public supervision of elections. The public supervision of elections that went the way of the dodo bird with electronic voting is an indispensable part of democracy, and an inalienable right of We the People.

This queues up the core of the continuing debate over Holt, whether a government of the people, by the people and for the people can deny public supervision of the sole channel of power transfer to the government, and substitute “paper trails” as a “reasonable and realistic” compromise. Paeans can and should be sung to political compromise, and the necessity for the same, but as to a few core principles, Patrick Henry’s words are more applicable “Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death.” Can we really live with invisible ballots and no public supervision of elections? Is it too much to expect to insist on a reversal of these conditions now, with a new Congress?

Within 24 hours, the website www.hr550.com will be up with this essay and a lot more info on this.

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"Political Realism" in Elections, Democracy, & the Holt Bill

In 2006, the key issue in the debate on the Holt bill or HR 550 was what is "realistic" for election reform in the last Congress. Once again, this is the central point of disagreement in the new more Democratic Congress.

Self-identified "strategic" thinkers often favor Holt while more "purist" thinkers like "values" and "democracy" thinkers, together with those unwilling to compromise as much as Holt is perceived to do, stake out the anti-Holt position.

My own position has been that Holt is not "strategic" in any good sense of placing us in an advantageous position from which to fight for further reform, because Holt’s addition of paper trails are commonly understood by reporters and average citizens to be all the protection that’s needed…. Moreover, Holt advocates while consistently against touchscreen DREs have never shown us what the next steps are AFTER Holt even though they call Holt the first steps. Moreover, recent experience shows that paper trails won't and haven't worked in actual practice. Thus, the voter “confidence” in DREs that would be manufactured by Holt's formal name when and if it is enacted as "The Voter Confidence Act of 2007" is very ill advised and dangerous. Vigilance is always the watchword of liberty, not ‘confidence.’

Yet the "realism" debate points to the true issue: Is it realistic to agree to something and give up full fledged democracy for a few more years, on the grounds that taking an alleged first few steps with Holt will help us later? Is Holt a step forward, and does it land us in a strategically wise place to fight from?

San Diego, where I lived much of the last five months and served as attorney, would pronounce the Holt-like paper trail and audit system applied to Diebold TSX touchscreens a complete failure. If the question is whether Holt will improve the situation or place us in a better position to fight from, I’m one of the lawyers who might be asked to execute that fight, and the answer to the answer is an emphatic No: Holt does not and would not improve our position.

Much more promising for democracy is this: If we articulate our arguments in their more "pure" democracy form, then we connect with democracy and the Constitution and most importantly, and we suddenly start benefiting from 92% public support numbers in the Zogby "92% poll" support for public witnessing of vote counting, instead of suffering from the probably less than 10% who even have a clue what VVPAT stands for and what's a good audit and what's not....

The real political reality is that 92% of the American public wants the right to "witness vote counting" and "obtain information about vote counting" which are the exact concepts tested in the Zogby poll.
See http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3307

Holt provides NEITHER of these universally supported democratic values in any form, it instead simply deceptively substitutes "paper trails" as a feel good non-solution. Paper trails on DREs solve absolutely nothing for two major reasons: (1) Something like 75% of people don't check the paper, and the errors on that paper are made into sacred "voter verified" fraud and error, and (2) Even those who do check a SECONDARY paper trail miss many errors. Paper trails simply are not a failsafe mechanism nor even a meaningful check and balance. Yet Holt would congratulate us all by calling this law the "Voter Confidence Act of 2007" and the media would suggest that we all go back to sleep singing "happy trails", having achieved "paper trails." Activists who persist will be defined as disgruntled radicals always coming back for more.

It's hard to think of anything more dangerous or worse than creating false confidence on top of DREs, with their secret vote counting. IN fact in San Diego, the paper trails and audits have yielded little new information, zero timely new information, but they have increased the confidence and naiveté of reporters, who specifically mention it as a reason to have confidence in DREs.

If we want to talk about political reality talk about these realities: (1) even the weakest politician can run on and win with 92% numbers. What is Holt's problem? The Zogby poll insists on VISIBILITY so the public can supervise... (2) Who in their democratic right mind would accept the continued elimination of the public's ability to supervise its own elections as ACCEPTABLE? There are many polls that make fun of the public’s lack of knowledge about civics, but here we have clear evidence that the public is nowhere near stupid enough to give up observation of vote counting, and yet the geniuses in Congress itself (or some of them) are said to claim that it is politically “unrealistic” to believe that Congress must serve and support the values of 92% of the American public, with even support across all political parties.

Given that Holt would continue under the banner of "voter confidence" the complete inability of the public to effectively supervise or oversee its own elections, and would hand more money to the corporations who have privatized our elections and made vote counting their private property by allowing them to sell paper trail machines at something like a thousand dollars apiece more, and would centralize control of our elections in the Bush administration by further strengthening the EAC, anybody that favors Holt without major misgivings and apprehensions is questionable. Holt’s proponents admit as much, and smartly raise the banner of strategic compromise and realism.

I am arguing in the rather unique area of elections from a rather unique perspective: The more “uncompromising” position on election transparency is supported by virtually everyone in the United States, so why in the world would we not want to be more “uncompromising?”

Ultimately, isn’t it very unrealistic to think that a truly democratic system can resist the wishes of nearly 100% of the public for very long, when and if the issue is clearly and consistently brought to the fore? On the other hand, if you talk in terms of Holt's technical debate about acronyms like VVPAT, DREs, EACs sampling protocols and ABCDEFGs, the public education necessary is so large that it may seem Holt is all we can accomplish. The very technical approach of Holt also insures that our sights are set too low.

However, when we realize that HAVA and HOLT by extension attack the very foundations of democracy and destroy them (publicly supervised vote counts) there is no acceptable compromise on that principle, because it is the very foundation of democracy and freedom: Government with the people in charge, 'of the people, by the people, and for the people." Without publicly supervised vote counting, or alternatively with secret vote counting, we have nothing in terms of democracy, and any bones we are tossed upon that foundation are pure illusions that gain us nothing in terms of legitimate democratic elections.

This second basis alone of "Secret Vote Counting" fully justifies the complete eradication of electronic voting done under trade secrecy. We simply can not build upon such corrupt foundations. Think of it this way: Your political enemy counting votes in secret is the picture of tyranny, while your political friend counting votes in secret is the picture of corruption. No credibility exists when secret vote counting is used, and in many ways we make a mistake in moving on to ANY other issue, which is probably going to be less clear-cut and comprehensive than this objection is.


To be sure, if you were involved in these last 2006 federal elections, you know for sure the people are no longer in charge. Yet accepting THAT as political "reality" may constitute something like treason in a real democracy, because it involves tolerating, condoning and affirmatively accepting conditions under which We the People are clearly removed from being in charge, which is the very core definition of real democracy. Though I take no joy in using that word and don't generally wish to do so nor will I say it to anyone personally, if this is not treason in a democracy (once one specifically knows that it continues to remove We the People from being in charge) then what would be treason? In bringing up this point in this particular way, I only wish to stress that this ability to oversee elections is extraordinarily important, and can not be the subject of compromise if you want to call our system a democracy. I agree that it is counterproductive even if true to throw this term around with respect to any specific individual, and in fact individuals who feel personally attacked will cling to their unwitting anti-democratic assumptions all the more fiercely. Functionally, my bringing this up forces the issue of whether we really believe that the public must be in charge of elections. If so, we can not possibly favor a Holt bill that fails to restore public supervision of elections.

When it comes right down to it, we have no right to tolerate DREs or saddle future years or future generations with their invisible voting. They must be ended, now.

The test or the sine qua none of democracy is not elections per se (some dictators and aristocracies have them) but the recognition that the people are the source of all legitimate power and authority.

In that light, who will dare to deny We the People the right to supervise the one and only channel of power from the people to the government: elections?

Who would dare to argue that the government or its chosen vendors could count the votes in secret that determine the government's own tax power and political power?

Who would dare to suggest that the people could not in fact be allowed to supervise their own democratic elections, when We the People are the indisputable boss of this country and the government is the servant?

Who could but laugh when the government servants purport to tell the masters We the People that they need not be troubled with their supervisory duties any more, and the government will handle the writing of its own paycheck from beginning to end?

We must, now, laugh at any one who denies We the People the full rights to witness vote counting and obtain full information about vote counting (92%), or else we will be forced to cry instead about the permanent death of democracy. The American People may have a better recall of the Three Stooges’ names than the names of the three branches of government, but they are operating at a genius level when they answer, at 92% rates, that the public must keep its eye on those elections. From this, and only a very few other core principles, there can be no compromise if we desire to remain free. Because a tyrant will have no difficulty whatsoever faking electronic elections to perpetuate itself, elections must always, and perpetually, remain intact and publicly supervised before it is too late.

But even if you don't feel as strongly as I do, the principles this country was founded on compel this.

Even if you don't feel as I do, the Holt bill's "protections" of paper trails and 2% audits won't actually protect us from anything.

"If you feel as I do" (to echo the movie V for Vendetta) a democracy is when "the government fears the people, instead of the people fearing the government." Today, which is feared more?

I fear that the principles of legislative compromise, SO OFTEN RIGHT, are in this particular instance involving the foundations of democracy, dead wrong. No matter how you feel about the present government, no United States government need fear its own citizens except through legitimate elections, and with electronic secret vote counting even if it is replete with paper trails and purported audits, true tyrants are safe. This should make any liberty-loving patriot tremble.

Some things are not the subject of compromise or "realism" under the American way. "Give me liberty or give me death" said Patrick Henry.

Every single time someone denies We the People the right to observe our vote counting and obtain information on it, we should ask the question again

"Who would DARE to deny We the People full supervision of their own elections?"

If no one would dare to do so, then there should be no opposition to repealing HAVA and restoring full public supervision of election vote counting. On the other hand, if you get a specific answer to this question of someone who would deny the public full supervision of their own elections, then you've found what the Founders called the Tyrant and what we today would call an abuse of power.

The ultimate political reality in light of the 92% is that Tyrants and abuses of power regarding elections can never survive in America unless activists and citizens unwittingly give them political cover. If we but force everyone to identify their core principles in elections, the Tyrants, the abusers, the vendors, and the excusers hang themselves from the highest tree.

To win, the election integrity movement only needs to do one thing, and do it repeatedly and well: Continually argue for full democratic supervision of elections by the people, and conversely denounce secrecy and non-transparency. Then, to oppose public oversight of elections is immediately exposed as anti-democratic, and the debate is won in favor of democracy and public supervision before it even begins.

Who will dare to deny We the People this most basic inalienable democratic right?

Ask every politician and election official in the country this question, on camera, on the record. I believe you’ll start to see some “movement” in high places.

Ask reporters this question, point out secret vote counting, and then give this quote from Joseph Pulitzer:

"There is not a crime, there is not a dodge, there is not a trick, there is not a swindle which does not live by secrecy. Get these things out in the open, describe them, attack them, ridicule them in the press, and sooner or later public opinion will sweep them away."

We have the 92%, the great strength of democracy and the great weakness of secret vote counting all pointing in our favor simultaneously. We can only lose if we are not persistent, or if we allow the subject to be changed to acronyms instead of defending democracy. When we defend democracy and public supervision of elections we can take anyone who stands in the way of that to the cleaners.


---Paul Lehto
Attorney at Law

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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:21 PM
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1. Looks like there may be action on legislation as early as January
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:58 PM
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2. "public supervision of elections
the one thing that we can never give up in a real democracy"


and hurry back to SD

we need you here...
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:13 AM
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4. ground zero for californians taking a stand on elections, like Kpete v. Haas....
That makes SD an attractive area to be sure.
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 02:12 AM
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8. If by January ...
Then I think we must haul Mr. Revere from his warm and cozy place by the fire, clone him (that's legal now, no?), and have him saddled and riding by December.

And ride, with his message, for the whole bloody month of it.

This must be our hour!





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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 04:59 PM
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29. Thomas Paine, too. We need to clone him ASAP.
k&r
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:11 AM
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3. Holt 550 is Lipstick on a Pig.
There's no reason to endorse touch screen voting yet Hold does so.

Why don't activists simply wake up and accept that part of a return to democracy is the
elimination of computerized voting altogether. The public is clear on this and expresses
that clarity over and over. They don't trust the machines.

We are well past the time when leaders or activists need to express unpopular or nonsensical
programs on the public.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:21 AM
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7. "elimination of computerized voting altogether" that's right!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 02:14 AM
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9. And how did Voter Verified Paper Ballots do in the 13 states where they're mandated?
Any word on that? No, didn't think so.

If they didn't help in the quesitonable contests in those states where they both exist and are mandaded (along with audits), what use are they? (Rhetorical question;) but take a shot...
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:06 PM
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32. And nobody could be more clear on it than the experts, either, Auto,
could they? They are adamant that there is no such thing as an unhackable computer. End of story.

Anyway, why shouldn't you join the rest of the international community who use pencil and paper? Given the Wild West political culture of the US, even the principals of a nationalised election-machine industry would soon be bought and paid for. But privatised voting????!!!!

I know you concur with all this Auto, but I'm sure you won't mind my using your post as a reinforcing peg.
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:14 AM
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5. HR550...
Edited on Sat Nov-18-06 12:15 AM by GregD
For starters, that bill is dead, in terms of the number. In it's original submission is was 2239, now 550, and when it is submitted in January it will take on yet another new number. Why build a site around an extinct bill number?

But HR550 is as flawed as the paperless voting machines. I have a whole rant I could share about this, but in speaking with people in the election integrity movement, I think there is a growing sense that VVPAT is toast as is DRE technology.

The screens appear to be faulty and require constant recalibration. The manufactures have done a crap job of implementing the printer technology, there appears to not be widespread verification by voters that the printed tape is an accurate reflection of the screen, they jamb, they run out of paper, as well as other issues.

Flame me if you will, but I truthfully think there needs to be a general awakening to the fact that DRE voting was a fad, and we have to move on to something more stable. It's a freaking pity that so many municipalities just got these machines, literally in time to use them for the 2006 election cycle, but those machines have got to go.

I believe that the public should press for adoption of prencint-based optical scan, open the software and hardware to the closest scrutiny, and if the vendors won't cooperate - then the vendors must be eliminated from the process.

I further propose that the software development for voting systems be taken over by individuals of great integrity; that they be employed by a not-for-profit foundation that would work under the auspices of someone like the Federal Elections Commission, and that all such software would be strictly open source and made available for public review. The application would need to be made sufficiently flexible that all municipalities could use it, and thus establish some clear and meaningful standards nationwide.

For accessibility, a ballot preparation device should be developed. Careful selection of a touch screen technology that is not so vulnerable (as the screens that the current generation of systems are based upon) appears to be needed, and this device should do no more than print a paper ballot that is then scanned similarly to all other ballots.

The only exception to this that I would pray for, but which I believe would only happen if it became evident that there was the political will in Congress, is hand counted ballots. Is there such willpower to do that? Dunno. I'd be awfully surprised.

But absent HCPB, I'd be a lot happier with optical scan systems running publicly scrutinized software that was encoded using technology to make certain that all machines are running the most currently available and certified versions.

Greg
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:19 AM
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6. thanks for the comments
already plan to get the new bill number but there's lots of name ID on HR550 so we'll just point that site to the new one when it's out.

"Flame me if you will..." you said, but I don't see much reason for flaming.

I disagree with the notion of "trusted nonpartisan" officials or programmers. A Ken Blackwell or Katherine Harris can get a nonpartisan position or develop while at such a position... It is far more dangerous to have a system that APPEARS trustable but in fact is not because it's so dang hard to blow the whistle or get reporters to take it seriously because it seems so cool.

Instead, the best approach is to maximize transparency and distrust, which in the end creates the most trustable result, ironically.
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 08:39 AM
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13. Someone has to program them
Edited on Sat Nov-18-06 08:42 AM by GregD
Like I say, there has to be a programming team *somewhere*. If you take it away from corrupt manufacturers, create a team who is charged with the task, and then inspect the hell out of it. Nothing avoids an internal QA review, and outside review is unrestricted.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 05:01 PM
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30. No. Great idea but Carlyle Group will somehow get that contract. Period.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:02 PM
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18. I'll flame you...
Screw that *92%* bs. There isn't one single honest person who thinks the votes should be counted in secret.

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Once the DRE's are done away with and we institute HCPB for federal elections, the people will need to rise up and begin organizing citizen vote counting committees. The money that once purchased the computers would flow to these citizen committees and finance their operations.

Once established, these committees can begin to count all the votes, by hand, from paper ballots.

Each and every committee will be open to any registered voter.

A set of by-laws that are nationally uniform would be at the foundation of each and every locally organized committee.

Anything less will allow secret vote counting to continue infecting our democracy.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:07 PM
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19. don't forget most of the rest of the 92 are undecided
and on top of that, the wording of the question had to do with the right to witness and didn't force awareness of the negative by saying
"secret vote counting"
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:49 PM
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22. Yeah, but 550
will keep people from being witness, so how in the hell can any real election integrity activist be in favor of 550?

I just don't get it..... how can anyone who believes in real democracy be in any way shape or form in favor of such an anti-democratic bill like HR550?

Are there actually some dishonest people who are in favor of continuing secret vote counting? And some are in our midst of reformers?

Ya know, it must be the big money that influences these type of people. 'Cause we know big money has corrupted democracy before. Eh?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 09:02 AM
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14. Elections are big business
and we need to get BIG Business out of the Elections.
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 02:19 AM
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10. Pure...Genius
Edited on Sat Nov-18-06 02:21 AM by GuvWurld
I agree 100% about the purity of arguments. Water them down and you get false alternatives.

We are not extremists who would take action in the name of our principles, in order to restore ideals disregarded by the true extremists, those who usurped our power.

We are the super-majority (92%) in the progressive center who must make the pure play in the name of our cultural heritage lest the power-usurping extremists on the one side pacify the masses by winning over the other extremists - those extremely tolerant of not being Free People.

I love this instruction to the community:

"To win, the election integrity movement only needs to do one thing, and do it repeatedly and well: Continually argue for full democratic supervision of elections by the people, and conversely denounce secrecy and non-transparency. Then, to oppose public oversight of elections is immediately exposed as anti-democratic, and the debate is won in favor of democracy and public supervision before it even begins."

There's a touch of Sun Tzu in that strategy, yes?

Good work, Paul. Thanks for your contributions in the courtrooms and everywhere that you help to forward the development of our collective thinking.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 04:58 AM
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33. Thanks for focusing on what I agree is most important
and amplifying that... with good links and discussion.
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:42 AM
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11. draft Declaration of Democracy by many leaders in election integrity
This was authored by Brad Friedman of The BRAD BLOG and Velvet Revolution and a number of other election integrity leaders. It was and remains an effort to find common ground among people whose goals are the same but who sometimes differ in strategy/approach. I offer it here so that those working on new legislation can work from it.

A DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY
FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA


Originally drafted by participants of the "National Summit to Save Our Elections"
Portland, Oregon, 10/3/05
UPDATED: 11/16/2006



Whereas democratic elections in America must produce conclusive outcomes which create a basis for public confidence in the results reported and which establish an accountable government that is truly of the people, by the people and for the people…

Whereas the right to vote is fundamental to freedom and democracy, as is the right to have that vote counted accurately and as the voter actually intends…

Whereas the United States of America must represent the highest standards for electoral democracy in the world…

Therefore, be it resolved that we insist upon the following baseline standards towards our shared goal of free, fair, verifiable, independently audited and transparent elections in the United States of America…

  • A paper ballot, verified by the voter after voting, must always be the legal ballot of record in all elections in the United States of America.


  • The counting and auditing of votes are to be publicly witnessed, and the results will be publicly displayed at the location where voter ballots are surrendered into the county board of elections custody before they are shared with a central tabulation center.


  • All ballots of record shall be tabulated on the final evening of each election in the location where they are originally surrendered into the county board of elections custody. A random statewide sample of all paper ballots shall be hand-counted.


  • Audit results must be announced upon completion, and prior to the announcement of any tabulated election results.


  • If the results of the random hand-counted audit differ from the tabulated results by greater than 1%, or show a different election outcome, then a mandatory full hand recount of the paper ballots shall be conducted in the affected venue to determine the official results for use in the final certification.


  • Privately created and programmed voting, tabulating and signature-validating machines may be used as a secondary check and balance against the paper ballot of record, providing the source code and software used is publicly administered, fully publicly disclosed, verified by independent experts and can never be used via any form of electronic networking of any kind.


  • The chain of custody standards for all ballots and voting equipment must be equal to or greater than the security standards maintained in law enforcement proceedings.


  • As ballot integrity is as important to the democratic process as the accurate and transparent counting of each vote and the ability of every eligible voter to cast that vote, either a valid photo ID or a signature, for later validity matching -- as according to the same standards used for vote-by-mail, absentee and military voters -- should be presented at the time any vote is cast.

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    mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:52 AM
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    12. What is your take on the bill by Kucinich which would mandate hand
    counted paper ballots for all federal elections? It would seem as if we need to move fast to support a truly democratic bill and this seems the best out there. Should we now start lobbying all Holt supporters with this info. Can you modify your excellent paper to have a stronger statement as to what legislation should be passed?
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    lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 09:19 AM
    Response to Reply #12
    15. What Mom Cat said!
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    glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 10:36 AM
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    17. Holt should join him. That would bring his bill's supporters over faster.
    He could graciously drop his, or incorporate better aspects of his into some kind of Kucinich-Holt bill.
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    Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:10 PM
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    20. Kucinich's bill is a good one,
    could be extended beyond the presidential but the presidential is obviously the most important.
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    stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 09:57 AM
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    16. So pleased to have Mr. Shark's relentless,
    deliberate, and focused voice of reason to guide us in this often mind boggling debate.

    Thanks so-o-o much.

    K & R'd
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    Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:26 PM
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    21. Thanks stellanoir, and to make this a lot shorter someone else
    with the gift for getting to the point has put the key to the whole thing in a box:

    <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2749355&mesg_id=2750424>
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    followthemoney Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:52 PM
    Response to Original message
    23. Great post Land Shark.
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    bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:54 PM
    Response to Original message
    24. This treatise is a veritable Voter's Manifesto.
    Superb piece of thinking and writing.

    :thumbsup:
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    pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:07 PM
    Response to Original message
    25. Kick & Nominated
    Paul - I heard you on Thom Hartmann - keep up the good work!
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    lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:56 PM
    Response to Original message
    26. Bottom line on article:



    snip-

    "Who would DARE to deny We the People full supervision of their own elections?"

    If no one would dare to do so, then there should be no opposition to repealing HAVA and restoring full public supervision of election vote counting. On the other hand, if you get a specific answer to this question of someone who would deny the public full supervision of their own elections, then you've found what the Founders called the Tyrant and what we today would call an abuse of power.

    -snip-

    To win, the election integrity movement only needs to do one thing, and do it repeatedly and well: Continually argue for full democratic supervision of elections by the people, and conversely denounce secrecy and non-transparency. Then, to oppose public oversight of elections is immediately exposed as anti-democratic, and the debate is won in favor of democracy and public supervision before it even begins."

    Thanks for thoughtful article. This subject needs to be kept alive.

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    MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:43 PM
    Response to Original message
    27. Is there a write-in campaign to present to the new and old demo-
    cratic leadership in the House and the Senate so they know we want urgent and immediate repair of the voting process? If I can sign somewhere and/or call someone, please post the info.
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    Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 04:45 PM
    Response to Reply #27
    28. we'll get some info posted, but Congress is poised to do more Damage
    to lack of public oversight by making it appear more palatable even though it's not....

    Though Kucinich's HR 6200 addressing only the presidential election moves in the right direction.
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    Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 06:12 PM
    Response to Reply #27
    31. check this link (near the bottom of the page) to take action against HR550
    <http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_nancy_to_061118_stopping_h_r__550_be.htm>

    (this is a different editorial on the same subject, link is at bottom of this page)
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    elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:25 AM
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    34. KICK
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    elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:02 PM
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    35. kick
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