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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 07:27 PM
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My views on impeaching Bush are much like my view on the death penalty.
I am somewhat ambivalent. With the death penalty, I don't believe it deters murder, because if someone wants to kill another, he will. It doesn't change the past, as impeachment wouldn't.

But, when I think of people like John Couey, who kidnapped and killed Jessica Lunsford, burying her alive, I think that some sons of bitches don't deserve to be alive. They don't deserve to be on the earth, breathing our air.

Bush has, in essence, buried America alive. We are now digging ourselves out. Impeachment won't change the damage that Bush has caused. It won't bring back our troops that died in Iraq. It won't turn back the deficit, or the debt. It won't bring gas prices down to $1.30. But, this bastard doesn't deserve to be president. He has turned our Army into his own private mercenaries, and did not allow them to capture the Bin Laden, who inspired the death of 3,000 Americans. As Governor, he seemed to take glee in the executions of death row inmates, saying "justice was done". With Bin Laden still out there, and a war in Iraq, complete with torture of enemy combatants inspiring more terrorists, justice has not been done.

Will an impeachment be justice, or will justice come in the form of censure, repealing of laws, and much increased oversight?

I guess that remains to be seen. In the meantime, I will remain ambivalent, and intrigued.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 07:39 PM
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1. I've only seen one legitimate DP case in my life
and that was Ted Bundy, who escaped from custody twice to continue his killing spree. Everybody else could be maintained much more cheaply in prison with no possibility of parole.

I survived a murder in my family. I am against the death penalty.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 07:54 PM
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2. dp and impeachment
There must be investigations first.....then we impeach


The DP is good for people that murder
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 07:58 PM
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3. There have been a decent number of cases where I agree with it.
As a measure to prevent murder, it clearly doesn't work. It doesn't change what happened. I really have mixed feelings on it.

I can surely understand your being against it, and am sorry for the loss in your family.
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Randy Ranger Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:03 PM
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4. I too oppose the DP-----But;
I have to in all good fath support impeachment.  This S.O.B
does not deserve to be president!!
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YellingTuna Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:37 PM
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5. However, if a serial killer is left on the street he will continue to kill.
Would you let a killer not be arrested for another 2 years? I don't completely agree with the death penalty either. However an impeachment of Bush would be like an arrest of a killer before he has even more time to strike. Regardless of the death he has caused already, why let him continue?
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 09:07 PM
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8. I suppose the question is how the congress/senate goes about it
Impeachment, investigation, oversight, censure, who knows. I am also wondering what passed laws might be repealed, at least I hope some will be repealed.

I love how leading up to the election, he was saying a dem victory was a victory for the terrorist, and now he is bipartisan all of a sudden.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 09:18 AM
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9. Hi YellingTuna!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 09:00 PM
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6. however, as i read somewhere, impeachment would serve to uncover the
scumbaggery of the Bush family once and for all--and maybe once and for all people would not want to elect such scumbaggery no matter how much money they had, and no matter how much the bushes lied, or how much the bushes paid other people to lie about their opponents.

impeachment would also establish a record for history of much of what they want to keep hidden and locked in the dark dungeon of their muddy, swampy, lies.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 09:06 PM
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7. I fully support the founding fathers and the checks and balances
they put forth including impeachment.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:16 AM
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10. I don't believe impeachment should be taken off the table
I think it should remain on the table, surrounded by stuffing, potatoes, veggies, cranberry sauce and gravy.

It should be there for all to see.

Whether or not to actually carve it up and serve it - is a different matter.

For many of us on the DU or other similar sites - we know crimes have been committed which would result in impeachment. However, the general public only has, a best, a tiny inkling of the length and depth of crimes.

If we chose to serve impeachment, we must bring "the people" to the table. Just my opinion, but what saved Clinton from conviction after being impeached was the level of support he had from the people. The people came to the table, looked at what was being served and said "no, thanks".

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