Haggard: Why is it all about the gay sex, and not the meth?

[KamaAina]

I mean, come on, this is meth. It's a serious enough problem that people have to sign a flippin' log book just to get their Sudafed because of it, for Pete's sake. And here's a big-time White House advisor using it. So where's the uproar?

Maybe if he'd gone to a garden-variety female hooker there'd be an uproar about the meth? :shrug:

[Fierce]

1. Probably because God hates teh gay and unmarried sex.

He doesn't say much about teh meth.

[central scrutinizer]

2. He said he didn't use the meth, ergo, no story

A man of God wouldn't lie, would he?

[KayLaw]

36. I know you're kidding

But I think you're right in a way. He won't admit it, though, because he can go to jail for that.

[TechBear_Seattle]

3. I don't think Haggard ever preached against drug use

Two things. First, Haggard was vociferously anti-gay and said (apparently) next to nothing against drug use. His hypcricy makes the gay sex aspect much more salacious.

Second, as far as his Talibangelical following is concerned, drug use is a very minor sin. Homosexuality is a very, very big one.

[KamaAina]

6. Talibangelical!!!

Oh SNAP!! :rofl:

[Sadie5]

7. NBC had a video

about Haggards wife saying how she still loved him and so forth. I would be willing to swear that the blame for his gay tryst will be all blamed on her.

[TechBear_Seattle]

10. Which would be against their own rhetoric

"Being gay" is a choice that one makes for himself. If his wife "drove" him to "be gay," what does that say about his ability to be "the head of his family, as Christ is head of the church"?

[KamaAina]

14. Sad to say, it's already started

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2577109&mesg_id=2577109

[caseycoon]

25. Blame the wife?

GOOD GRIEF!
What are these people using for brains?

[donheld]

35. Welcome to DU caseycoon

:hi: What are these people using for brains? Some days it's hard to tell. A rotten banana would be better than what some are thinking with.

[No Exit]

43. Exactly! The reason it is "all about the gay sex and not the meth"

is because homosexuality has been a main theme of all these phony evangelicals, in recent years.

They have made a lot of enemies by being so unforgiving of other people's viewpoints. Considering that phony evangelicals travel under the banner of "Christianity"--a religion which preaches tolerance and forgiveness--their hypocrisy is glaring.

I remember, years ago, that a former beauty contest winner, who tried to break into show biz, had the meanness to get rather rude in speaking about homosexuals. Her name was Anita Bryant. People--many of them homosexuals--rose up and destroyed her.

Where were these people, I wondered, while hundreds of "Anita Bryants" have taken over our radio stations and even our politics? Where were those homosexuals who wouldn't take any shit off Anita Bryant?

Looks like they're finally back. Looks like they're hunting republicans.
I think uncloseted homosexuals have been friends of the truth during the Foley and Haggard REPUBLICAN scandals. And gay men who've trysted with some of these closeted, self-hating, republican homosexuals are no longer remaining silent. I think it's great.

And I'd love to see a chapter in history books, one day, entitled, "How the Homosexuals Saved America".

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. I don't care if he used meth.

I care that he's a bigot. And if hypocrisy brings him down, all the better.

[LisaM]

8. We should care that he's used meth

It's a far bigger problem to society than homosexuality.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. Sorry, I don't give a damn about meth.

Homophobic conservatives are a far bigger problem to society than methamphetamine.

[Jed Dilligan]

28. I don't care about the drug per se,

But when these high level Republicans (think Limbaugh, too) get a walk where real people would get hard time, it's pretty vile.

I know Teddy Boy wasn't actually caught with meth, but if the tip had been called in about you or me we would have SWAT teams tearing out the walls of our houses in no time flat.

[LisaM]

30. I think homephobic conservatives are a huge danger, don't get me wrong

I just think that meth is a problem too.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

5. Because fag jokes are so much more fun.

:sarcasm:

[tinfoilinfor2005]

31. And the big fat wife jokes even funnier.

Of course limbaugh prefers his jokes to come from people afflicted with nerve and muscular diseases. Yes, this election season has certainly brought out the gold standard jokes.

[Quantess]

45. Sure, except, Mrs. Haggard is slim and attractive. (EOM)

[LostinVA]

37. You got it

[Catherine Vincent]

11. He threw it away.

So there's no meth story.:)

[JackBeck]

12. Right, and he just got a massage.

:)

[AndyA]

13. It's the hypocrisy of the anti-gay agenda.

Being a closet gay and promoting legislation against yourself is really the ultimate hypocrisy, isn't it?

It is literally cutting off your nose to spite your face!

[Umbram]

44. We are in the middle of the war on gays, not the war on drugs

therefore the irony lies with the prostitute more than the drugs.

People feeling persecuted amongst friends need to reevaluate.

[ThomCat]

15. Excellent point.

So many people have been jumping gleefully because another bad-guy is gay that we've been stuck on that topic.

Let's see if the meth takes center stage in round two.

[coalition_unwilling]

16. Give me librium or give me meth! :)

[Bluebear]

23. Good one

:toast:

[Voltaire269]

17. GOP thinking, its not good to be gay nor colored, but its ok to be a junky

Look the GOP is an odd group of guys.
They don't make much sense

[Sapphocrat]

18. Good point.

I've never heard of anybody overdosing on sex (of any variety) and then going on a shooting rampage.

No, seriously, you're right. If it had been a female hooker, the issue would have dropped like a stone. Jimmy Swaggart was caught with female hookers, and, while the jokes ran fast and furious, it just didn't have the same impact the Haggard story seems to be having.

I see the hypocrisy (do I ever -- I keep a running list of these hypocrites), but the bottom line is that everybody (the media, and far too many Joe Q. Publics) is treating the "gay sex" angle as if it were a crime. It's hypocrisy to the highest degree, but it's not a crime. It can't be equated with meth use.

[William769]

19. Because alot of people on DU made it about Homosexuality

They just don't get it.

[Catherine Vincent]

21. They made it about hypocrisy.

Which is what this was. Only you saw it as homosexuality.

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[Catherine Vincent]

27. Cute.

<chuckle>

[nini]

29. It's about a lot of things

drugs, adultery, homosexuality. ALL of these add up to hypocrisy and since the right has made gay marriage such a cornerstone of their morality superiority crap.. that's why the hypocrisy settles on that issue.


Perhaps if that guy hadn't made his living trashing gay people to the point he implied they are evil etc., it wouldn't be a problem. He did - therefore he needs to be nailed on that issue.

The drug use and adultery are more issues of his personal failings - his gay bashing while being gay himself hurt too many other people.

[LostinVA]

38. Bingo!

[gully]

20. Because the meth epidemic is not driving the Rep. base to the polls.

It's Republican bigotry that is.

[MindPilot]

22. Because meth is the drug of choice for their base

If it had been pot, he'd be in jail.

[Pilotguy]

26. Isn't it really about adultery?

I haven't heard that word used once in relation to Haggard.

[Toots]

32. To me this pass being given him is more dangerous to children than Foley

Foley preyed on young men in their mid to late teens and never attacked any of them that I've heard about and has been harshly rebuked for it. Haggerd is not getting any criticism for using Meth and that pretty much tells the kids it is okay. Hell a renowned preacher can use it and no one says anything so it has to be okay.:wtf: kind of message is that???????

[Ksec]

33. Its a huge story but it dwarves in comparison to

the fact that bush put a NUKE RECIPE on the internet .

So many blockbusters, so little time ....

[NMMNG]

34. But then we wouldn't have been treated to so many wonderful jokes

and songs about sex toys, small furry animals, pet names, sexual positions and the like.

It would have been much too boring if people only discussed Haggard's meth use. :sarcasm:

[LostinVA]

39. Yeah, because meth jokes aren't just so knee-slappin' funny

And, there's no Meth User Forum to go post meth jokes. What the hell kinda fun is that???

[NMMNG]

48. Indeed

It's no fun asking which meth-head is the "top" now, is it? :eyes:

[sendero]

40. Because..

... half his followers use it too?

[liberal N proud]

41. Hey Rev. Ted, it is not about the gay sex but about the hypocrisy

Dumb ass, doesn't get it.

[malaise]

42. He had to be on some drug

Which rational person could chat so much shit Sunday after Sunday?:rofl:

[Hubert Flottz]

46. What would Jesus snort?

They would have busted JC for making wine without a permit if the GOPers had been there!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

47. gay sex is easier for some people to mock. alsoin fairness he was very anti-gay.