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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:34 PM Original message |
Poll question: Is gay discrimination 100% comparable to discrimination against blacks? |
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keepCAblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. The fact that you are posing this question |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Posing question because of all the posts up today |
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Ellis Wyatt (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. sorrier |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Not necessarily. It could be the reverse. Or the OP could be curious |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
97. hear hear |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:34 PM Response to Reply #97 |
120. Ditto |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
3. Not to nitpick but they are not 100% comparable. If they were, they wouldn't |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
6. Back in the day, and I remember the day, blacks had almost |
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zreosumgame (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 06:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. well, there is a bit of difference |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Well, when they start attacking Gay Pride parades with |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 06:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 06:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Perhaps you should read this: |
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zreosumgame (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #32 |
67. Yes, history is hard |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 08:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
50. You want to do a one on one comparison? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Great analogy. The abuses are different, but the motivation really isn't. |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #50 |
71. Thank you for posting this. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 03:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
101. Bravo. nt |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
168. Until Stonewall-- and after-- cops regularly rounded up gays |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
78. Not quite all, but certainly the vast majority. |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
7. MR. CHIEF JUSTICE WARREN delivered the opinion of the Court. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
8. Of course they are not the same issue. But not all gays are white. |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
9. I know several black people who get extremely upset when the |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. This is why I'm uncomfortable with pairing the two struggles |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. You've made some excellent points which gave me a |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
161. Wow, why are you buying into total ignorance about GLBT people. |
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keepCAblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 07:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. How ridiculous. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
123. Ugh -- sickening comment |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
138. Tell Matthew Shepherd one of his biggest issues was the right to marry. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
152. Yes, and no one knows you're gay until you announce it to the world. |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 07:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
44. Wow. Very good post. And a very good question you posed. |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 08:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
46. I'm Jewish and I get tired of Jews thinking |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 11:02 AM Response to Reply #46 |
73. Well, I'm not Jewish |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #73 |
165. damn, stating that "some" jews hold this view is hardly painting |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #165 |
175. Thanks Jonnyblitz...I know of where I speak |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. Civil Rights for minorities were a tough cut of meat for many before |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
11. Human rights are human rights. You either support them or you don't. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
12. Other. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
14. They differ in the details and certain aspects, but civil rights are civil rights. |
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Katzenjammer (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
84. Exactly. Martin knew that all denial of rights are the same denial |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
15. Blacks that I know resent the intrusion of gays |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 06:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. It's true. I see that too. It's sad to see. |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. It's a false religious thing. |
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VeggieTart (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 11:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
65. Actually, religion has been used.. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Monogamous gays only, the rest of us get to stay in the closet |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 07:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
40. I hope they won't expect those gays to support affirmative action. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. off topic, but affirmative action has benefitted white women the most nt |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
111. No flame here. I know it's true. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #111 |
134. You know its true? How? nt |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:06 PM Response to Reply #134 |
140. I think I read it on CWA's website. |
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MazeRat7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
16. Only when you can "hide" being black are they comparable. (n/t) |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. The emotional pain of hiding your sexuality is enormous. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 07:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. Are you suggesting the hiding is better? It's not. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
127. Appalling statement |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
17. What if they're black and gay? Or half-black and bisexual? - n/t |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
19. why not ask harold ford JR what he thinks? nt |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
23. I vote PRESENT, even though I have some good points to make |
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Democrats_win (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
26. It doesn't matter! 'Liberty & Justice for all' is what counts. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
28. According to CORETTA SCOTT KING, it is COMPARABLE. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
29. Deleted sub-thread |
Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
31. The big difference is |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 07:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Another diff: no black person ever had to hide their race from their parents. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. No black person has ever been disowned & homeless from their parents |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 08:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
59. No, but many blacks were disowned at birth by their white slave owner fathers |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 08:55 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Please read my post about Loretta Scott King's opinion on this. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 10:44 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. And that bears comparison to people living right now in exactly what |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Precisely my point. |
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keepCAblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. A really bad generalization. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. All it means is |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 07:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Ability to pass or hide minority status is a very important factor! |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Um, if there WAS a closeted gay president in US history... |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 08:19 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. no, but the point is, the person had that chance |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Had the chance to live a life in hiding and isolation? |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. closeted gay president vs. overrepresentation in prisons? nt |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 10:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Overrepresentation in prisons or in teen suicide? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
128. What gives you the right to tell us what our struggles are? |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #128 |
135. Well I know one thing your struggle is not- |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:08 PM Response to Reply #135 |
142. And a huge proportion of kids on the street are gay. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #135 |
157. Stop pretending racism is worse than homophobia. |
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keepCAblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. How deluded. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
36. I feel sick... |
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jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. My thoughts exactly... |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 10:47 PM Response to Reply #36 |
63. Beats me. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:47 PM Response to Reply #63 |
132. I know... I agree.... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
131. I literally am sickened by this |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
38. They are not the same but they are both equally valid concerns |
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stella (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
49. THEY ARE NOT COMPARABLE |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 08:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Why the hell not? |
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stella (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #57 |
68. Because unless you say you are gay |
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MadAsHellNewYorker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 10:30 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. so being gay is a choice? and if we'd just sit down and act |
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stella (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 01:46 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. OF COURSE NOT |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 02:48 PM Response to Reply #79 |
93. Thanks for your sensitivity and support. nt |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #79 |
98. Please stop yelling in all caps. It is not necessary. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #79 |
106. One or 2 issues? |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #68 |
99. I call total bull on that. |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #68 |
102. that is a damned lie |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #68 |
113. Oh honey! |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:48 PM Response to Reply #68 |
133. Fuck that -- do NOT tell ME what my struggles are |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:13 PM Response to Reply #68 |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:44 PM Response to Reply #68 |
172. People have been beaten & killed for being PERCEIVEED as gay. |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
51. This is how I see it.... |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #51 |
72. The fact that the person... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
54. Yes, they are both based in selfishness. |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
64. HELL YES IT IS THE SAME THING |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-26-06 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
66. civil rights, but the hair is afire right now... |
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MadAsHellNewYorker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
69. Blacks were not allowed to Marry at one time either. |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
74. Gay is the new black, to the bigots... |
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Trekologer (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
75. Civil right are civil rights |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
76. There are some parallels, but also some big differences |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 02:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
90. "Sinful" vs. "Inferior" - I'm so glad you brought up that point |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
77. Why is there a need to even make this comparison? |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. This kind of thing always becomes a pissing match |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #85 |
108. Woah, hehe |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #85 |
114. Not just a toaster, but a toaster oven! |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
80. Two completely different struggles and I think both groups would |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. "...I think both groups would be offended..." |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
81. NICE DEMOCRAT WEDGE ISSUE, and just in time for elections. |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. You noticed that huh? |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 03:45 PM Response to Reply #82 |
103. Surprise surprise. Imagine that. Just a short time before |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 02:35 PM Response to Reply #81 |
92. it doesn't have to be a wedge, it can bring enlightenment to all sides |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. You think you can enlighten ALL sides with this? Not the right wing. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #92 |
155. And, to be honest, I get offended by people who assume that |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
86. There's a great article about this |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. I will check that out. Thanks! nt |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
87. Consider in most cases you can't hide Blackness. |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. But if you could hide it... |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 02:22 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. True. No rguements here. It's just that people tend to hate me |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
95. Yes. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
96. Deleted sub-thread |
cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
100. Gee I wonder why you started this poll |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #100 |
109. I appreciate your post |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #100 |
112. why did you use the black analogy? |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #112 |
117. There is no other purpose for this thread, except to divide. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:29 PM Response to Reply #100 |
116. Ha! I agree. eom |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
104. When the first spark of an idea lit up your brain to create this |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:15 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. This question can only lead to disharmony and strife. |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #110 |
115. Bingo. You hit the nail on the head. And all the other |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
105. The ways of discriminating are different, nothing else. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. DS, that's great! |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:36 PM Response to Reply #105 |
122. BINGO...This is the correct answer! |
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buddhamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
118. yes. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
119. This is a pretty flamey OP -- VERY divisive, imo |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:35 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. Agreed. I hope this gets locked. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:09 PM Response to Reply #121 |
144. She quoted the "Concerned Women of America" on another |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:20 PM Response to Reply #144 |
149. Honestly, I'm amazed a few people here haven't just started quoting |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:26 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. Or Rush or Phelps -- ugh |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. Yes, but very enlightening |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:39 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. why is it shocking that not everyone thinks homophobia is equal to racism? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:43 PM Response to Reply #125 |
129. Deleted sub-thread |
LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:09 PM Response to Reply #124 |
143. Tell me about it -- kinda sickening, huh? |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:39 PM Response to Reply #119 |
126. Using civil rights to divide people |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:08 PM Response to Reply #126 |
141. Words out of my mouth |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
130. AS I read this thread, the divisive tactic of the OP was successful |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:58 PM Response to Reply #130 |
136. good riddance. you hurt your cause with your wild, unfounded accusations nt |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:37 PM Response to Reply #136 |
154. Uh-uh. Sure... Oh and I have a question for you? |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #154 |
160. One of my best friends is a black lesbian |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #160 |
164. My point is gay rights affect people of every race. I'm on topic btw. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
137. Are gays and African Americans both human beings? Yes. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
139. "Divide and conquer" is a favorite strategy. Read "Mind of the South" |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
145. ANYONE who doesn't agree with me is RACIST |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #145 |
150. C'ya. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:58 PM Response to Reply #145 |
156. Disagreeing wouldn't make anyone homophobic. Homophobia |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
147. I believe Discriminations against gays is a civil rights issue |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
148. Other: While they are both similar in bieng needed civil rights movements, |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
153. 200 posts and not a single rec? That says something. eom |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #153 |
162. honestly, I wish this thread would sink like a pile of bricks |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:21 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. So are women's rights inferior to African-American civil rights? |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:23 PM Response to Reply #163 |
166. not less important, just different. two separate issues |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:23 PM Response to Reply #162 |
167. Right, they're not equal Racism is only 72.2% as bad as homophobia. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #167 |
169. and nowhere did I say the gay rights struggle was lesser, just that its different |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:31 PM Response to Reply #169 |
170. You actually did gay americans face 10% or less of the issues |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:39 PM Response to Reply #170 |
171. Yes, meaning of the 100% of issues that gay americans face |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #171 |
173. So you mean blacks only experience 10% of what gays do? |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
158. shouldn't be discussed together unless |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
159. How many gays have gay parents and gay grandparetns and ... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
174. People are born black.. |
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wakemeupwhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
176. I'm going to lock this. |
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