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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:20 AM
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Ok DU'ers...latest freeper post on my veteran forum. It's a good one.
Here is the email that I received from the freeper:
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So Mike, what do you think of what the Democrats are doing with the Alito nomination?

Doesn't the Constitution talk about Advice and Consent?

What part of character assassination is part of that?

The Democrats agree that Alito is qualified, but they vote against him. Why?

Hey, if Ruth Bader Ginsburg gets confirmed on a 98-0 vote ... how come Alito is not given the same courtesy?

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Your thoughts, please.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:25 AM
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1. First Off, It's ADVISE and Consent
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:27 AM
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2. "Well gee freeper buddy...
as far as I know asking honest tough questions isn't character assasination, although I get how you can confuse the two since your beloved leader only takes questions from pre-approved, pre-scripted sycophants. Furthermore, just because I believe Jack the Ripper could have been a qualifed surgeon in his day it doesn't mean I'd let him operate on my wife"
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:33 AM
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3. He may be qualified, has been a judge etc...
But that does not mean that he should have a job on the SCOTUS. They vote against him because he is a liar, he is ethically challenged and he does not believe in the Constitution. Ruth Bader Ginsburg was nominated by Clinton after Sen. Hatch (R) of Utah gave advice and consented to it. By the way, I don't think Ginsburg was Clinton's first choice, but she was the compromise to avoid a filibuster by the Repugs.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:35 AM
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6. And I'd say
Just because he's had jobs doesn't mean he's qualified. He's a rightwing fascists who wants to take away all of our freedoms and give the president (imagine: President Hillary Clinton) the ultimate power instead of the Congress as stated in the Constitution.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:46 AM
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10. not only "gave advise and consented" but gave Clinton the name
in the first place. Clinton had never heard of Ginsburg until Hatch gave him the name. Check out Hatch's book! HaaaaaHaaaaaa!
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sproutster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:34 AM
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4. sadly it's true that hardly anyone knows about vanguard
And it's important. Today of all days I was hanging out trying to be invisible because it was a layoff day (I made the cut). So anyhoo after 4 people got laid off, I finally went into the boss's office and asked if I could stop avoiding him and using my invisible powers yet. :)

So anyhoo, he said yea, but more cuts were coming... then (I'm convinced he is hugely red) he said they needed to save the money for the CEO -- and he just got a nice 6 mil. bonus - a bonus of more money then we will see in our lives.

So fuck it, I went for it and wheedled the convo to Alito via outsourcing/CEO/corruption.

Then I said the worst was that they were putting this judge up. I told him about vanguard - I said you got a judge, to get a fed judgeship he agrees to recuse himself if it ever comes before him, IT COMES BEFORE HIM, he doesn't recuse himself, and he profited. How much money does it take to buy a supreme court judge?

He tried to tell me I was full of shit in a more polite way - I'm like... haven't seen it on tv have ya? Just the whining dems huh? Then we googled.

:) I wake where I can.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:49 AM
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11. sproutster...
you are a true patriot! :patriot:
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:34 AM
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5. Sam Seder's Reply
1) Ginsburg was suggested by Orrin Hatch, a republican, and Clinton folowed his advice. Hence there was large support.
2) Harriet Meyers was suggested by Harry Reid, a democrat, and was blown out of the water by republicans.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:36 AM
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7. But wait didn't
Laura Bush proclaim she was behind the Miers nomination?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:37 AM
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8. Harry Reid suggested Harriet Meyers?????????
Edited on Thu Jan-26-06 12:40 AM by cynatnite
I didn't know this. When'd he do that? Got a source?

I'm perplexed. Help me out here.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:37 AM
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9. The ABA's assessment of Alito as "Well Qualified"
is based upon empirical evidence only and that evidence is exclusively as a tool of the State, i.e. Government, as it asserts its control over the People. Like any well developed skill, the deep habits of mind acquired from his monolithic career will not suddenly change just because the man moves office. Sure he will apply his rational skills, look at both sides, but somehow or other always find it necessary to extend the role of Government in people's lives.

Different time, different social economic conditions, different theory of presidential powers, different balance of opinions on the court compared to the Ginsburg confirmation.

And it's not just "the Democrats" speaking here; it's the People of this country, or are they of no concern anymore when it comes to Government power?
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