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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:53 PM
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Six years and abortion is still legal...
Despite full control of House/Senate/White House/and Supreme Court.

Republicans can never run on their so called "moral values" again. Nor can they run on 'protecting America from the homosexuals.' It's over. They're done!
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:58 PM
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1. They played conservative Christians like a cheap fiddle.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:04 PM
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2. They Suckered the Oppressives Amongst Us
Good.... the "pro-bullshiters" are assholes for hoping to take away women's rights to decide what happens to their own bodies'. The nerve of them...

st the same time they promote war and death for greed and lies. Fuck everyone of them.... they did the unforgivable.
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bperci108 Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:05 PM
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3. I wonder if...
...the Fanatical Fundie Freaks who supported this twit in 2000 and 2004 realized they got used like a Roofied-up prom date.



(Kind of a gross metaphor, I realize; but quite an accurate one, on several levels.)
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:09 PM
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4. And yet there are people like this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/09/us/politics/09conserv...
(Evangelicals Blame Foley, Not Republican Party )

But in dozens of interviews here in southeastern Virginia, a conservative Christian stronghold that is a battleground in races for the House and Senate, many said the episode only reinforced their reasons to vote for their two Republican incumbents in neck-and-neck re-election fights, Representative Thelma Drake and Senator George Allen.

This is Foleys lifestyle, said Ron Gwaltney, a home builder, as he waited with his family outside a Christian rock concert last Thursday in Norfolk. He tried to keep it quiet from his family and his voters. He is responsible for what he did. He is paying a price for what he did. I am not sure how much farther it needs to go.

The Democratic Party is the party that is tolerant of, maybe more so than Republicans, that lifestyle, Mr. Gwaltney said, referring to homosexuality.


:eyes:
No offense to anyone from Virginia but this sort of stuff (and the fact that Allen is ahead by 11 points after all that has happened) makes me sincerely hope I never have cause to move there or even visit.....

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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:11 PM
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5. And that is the plan

If they went after abortion like the right wants them, that would open up an entire new group of people to the debate. Right now, many are not overly worried. Hell, I'm not worried about the issue that much, but if they went after it then I'd immediately engage the process and work to defeat it.

But there is a greater plan at play than the Repukes knowledge that over-turning Roe simply won't fly in this nation and that is the perfect boogey-man to keep the religous radicals invovled. So long as abortion is legal then there will be millions of pro-'lifers' themselves engaged and voting. Sorta the opposite of what is going on with pro-choicers now. I'd wager a vast majority of independents, cynics, and non-voters would trend toward being pro-choice.

If Roe was turned, these people would galvanize just like the religious right has done and not only would choice be protected, but the rest of the kid-n-kabooodle would be out the door, all that corporate profiteering, resource rape, and cost externalization....voters voting on an issue of choice would send Democrats to the game and the right would be put out of business.

So the game plan is simple. If I am a Repuke I always want to keep the boogeyman (abortion) in play because Republican power is needed not for cultural issues, but for financial issues, its ALWAYS about the money and power. These social issues are just red meat for the base.

With abortion they toss in evolution, school prayer, "god" on the dollar and other assorted bullshit issues to make sure the fundies never miss a vote. That is why the day after the 2004 elections I was going around saying, "ok Repukes you got the government lets see you go after Roe V. Wade"....yet they wont touch it with a 10 foot pole. Not hard to see why.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:21 PM
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6. You're talking about people whose beliefs are completely at odds
with reality. For whom the words, "facts" and "real world observations" hold no weight.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:27 PM
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7. My husband's elderly aunt is a single issue,
anti-abortion voter. She's convinced if she just keeps voting for repukes, eventually abortion will be banned since they're the "pro life" party. The repukes love and need non-thinkers like her.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 03:25 PM
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11. I have relatives like that too. One issue voter- ban abortion.
:eyes:

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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:29 PM
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8. When the fundies wake up after their one night stand
with Dubya they are going to realize that they are doing the walk of shame with no cab fare on the dresser.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 02:18 PM
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10. LOL
:rofl:
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:33 PM
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9. Well I guess they will have to hope that voters have short memories
And as it turns out - they do.

Anyway after the Foley Scandal there's a lot of articles going around - Marvin Olasky wrote a particularly awful one, and Star Parkers today was bad too - trying to convince Republicans of the difference between a party that has no morality at all (us) and a party that has moral standards but fails to live up to them (them).

I suspect that while Christian Conservative voter turn out will be a bit down; the depths of Liberal hatred they have built up over the years will be enough to swing them back to seeing conservatives as slightly better than us.

Bryant
Check it out--> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 03:28 PM
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12. I was just thinking about this today.
They NEED abortion to be legal so they can rail against it. That's the only reason most of them care about it.
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