Your opinion of new residents who try change community/neighborhood...

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ways of living or accepted behavior or neighboring conditions?

Actual examples...

The NYC lawyer who decides to move to a rural community then tries to shut-down the saw mill or pig farm
down the road because the noise/smell.

The young professional types who move into a traditional ethnic neighborhood then try to put a stop to
festivities that date back at least 80 years because the celebrations create traffic problems and congestion.

A person who works at home, moves near a church (located in a very urban area), then complains that the church bells disturb his concentration.

A couple who move across the street from a fire station (pretty hard to miss), then complain about the
sirens (and this during acceptable hours).

[AllegroRondo]

1. People who move into a rural community

and complain about the wild deer, possums, and skunks that may wander into their back yard.
I just dont understand these people.

[Union Thug]

15. This one bothers me the most...

People move to a rural area and then want the game department to kill or move the bears, cougars etc.

I have no sympathy for these people. Some of us are dying to move to such a community because we enjoy nature, and yet are stuck close in to the city.

[lpbk2713]

2. Most people can adapt and adjust to many things.

I live near a busy highway and RR tracks. I don't even notice the sirens or the diesel horns any more. I guess some people might be more sensitive.

[BOSSHOG]

10. Railroad tracks are four miles north of our home

and we can faintly hear the trains go by and the occasional whistle. Music to my ears. My in laws live in a small town in Kansas and the trains goes by several times a day and night and morning (loud and clear), another great reason to visit my mother-in-law.

[EFerrari]

3. We moved next door to a church and every Sunday night

the congregation drove us nuts with their amplified bad singing. Doug used to invite them to "just drink the kool aide already!" every Sunday night. lol

[ixion]

4. the same types of people who think 'freedom isn't free'

:puke:

[phaseolus]

5. Or moving a block away from the racetrack...

...and complaining about the noise. This seems to happen in West Allis, WI on a regular basis. That track's been there maybe 80 years now??? Yet every few years someone makes a stink about it.

[BOSSHOG]

6. They need to be assimilated. One of the funniest examples

of your subject occurred a few years ago when a couple bought a very pricey piece of property on a street perpendicular to Bourbon Street in New Orleans. Their property adjoined a very popular bar which faced Bourbon Street. The couple moved in, then complained to the bar owner about the noise emanating from the bar until all hours of the night and morning. I'm not the brightest light bulb but anyone familiar with Bourbon Street knows that raucous jocularity and "noise" is a constant emanation; especially after the sun goes down.

[donheld]

7. People who move to a neighborhood near an airport

Then complain about the noise of the jet engines. I'd love to be a judge hearing those cases. :spank:

[woodsprite]

8. My opinion is that those people made bad choices of where to live.

Those battles shouldn't be going on. The newbies should either live with it or move.

When hubby and I got married, we were moving out of our parents homes into a place of our own. We couldn't afford much, but figured we could certainly find something in our price range. One thing we did was "watch" the neighborhood at different times of the day/night, week, etc., before we made a decision. We picked a heavily Italian neighborhood. Woke up one morning to someone walking on our roof to hang banners for the Italian festival - said "Hi" from our bedroom window. The only thing we hadn't seen was the crime issue there. We lived there 18 yrs and it cycled several times because it was mainly kids doing it -- petty stuff, vandalism, harrassment, etc. The cops haulled they're butts home and that was that. That was the only thing we DID try to change (youth club down the street, home watch when people were gone).

Unfortunately, we moved because it went from that lightweight stuff to teen drug users/dealers sitting on our stoop waiting for the local highschool bus to drop off the kids at the corner. Cops even told us to watch who we let our daughter play with because these were the little girls brothers that had "claimed" our stoop. Wouldn't even move to let us get the mail. It wasn't worth putting up with since we had a 7yo and a 1yo.

All those other things - the pig farm, celebrations, church bells and sirens, that's part of a community and they should have put 2+2 together before they made a commitment to the area.

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12. Would this be the North End of Boston?

The example I gave about moving into an ethnic area and complaining about the festivities happened in the North End.

It happened a number of years ago and was not at all well received by the long time residents.

[Oceansaway]

13. i agree..n/t

[donco6]

9. Or the people who move in next to the airport . . .

and complain about jet noise. "They're disturbing my horses!"

Brother.

[Gormy Cuss]

11. I say sic KalashniKitty on them.

Here's one from my old stomping grounds: people who bought condos on a wharf in a working fishing port and then complained about the smell of bait and the swarms of seagulls.

On edit: and other one from my current neighborhood. Some classless clown who was first on the block to McMansionized one of the tidy ranch houses complained to the county about his neighbor's pigeon coops. County said, sorry pal. The coops have been there 30 years and were legally in place. The other neighbors shunned the clown's efforts to get the county to change its ruling because they were all used to the cooing and occasional flock movement. These are homing pigeons, not the feathered rats of most urban areas.

[jobycom]

14. A rich, retired dude moved across a backlot from my parents

Not even on the same street. My father is a junk accumulator, and his yard is a mess with old cars and building supplies. There are four acres, so much of the junk is buried under and behind brush and trees.

So rich dude begins filing complaints against my father with the county for building code violations, unsafe living conditions (both complaints rejected, but after a lot of work). My parents had a very nice dollhouse moved onto the property for a grandkid, and rich dude filed a complaint because dad didn't get a permit (he didn't need one), then tried to get a petition in his neighborhood (again, not even on the same street as my father, whose lot backs up to the street rich dude's house faces. Also, dude can't see the junk or the house or any of the outbuildings from his lot--although the dollhouse is visible.). No one signed the petition, which wouldn't have had any validity anyway.

Next, dude began complaining about my parent's dog, who ran loose, as did most other dogs in the mostly rural neighborhood. Technically there was a leash law, so my parents had to contain the dog (a miniature Pinscher), who hated the leash so much he broke it and ran away to live with a neighbor.

Meanwhile, rich dude throws big family reunion parties, and his guests park on our back lot, with nary a complaint from my parents. My father, btw, is 70, and is only partially mobile because of a stroke, and is in constant pain from arthritis. He has lived in this house for 25 years, with the same basic yard habits he has now. So rich Bubba saw what he was moving into--or rather, what he was moving down the street from.

Oh yeah, and to paint a more complete picture of ruch dude, he has complained to several neighbors about a a trailer park that opened about two miles away. It's a nice lot, with maybe ten double-wides, all nicely maintained and each on at least a quarter of an acre, maybe larger. But rich dude has said that all those trailer families have too many kids and that the kids are all vandals who will trash his house and neighborhood.

It's a pity Katrina was so easy on his house.

Anyway, my opinion of anyone who worries about anything not on their own property is pretty low.

[lpbk2713]

16. Is there any official recourse for harrassment?

If this a-hole has complained so much and so often it could be he might pipe down a bit if he received an official STFU from the county government.

[MrMonk]

17. "trash his house and neighborhood"

With that attitude, they probably will.

[jobycom]

18. I've thought of drawing maps for them.

:-)

[BushOut06]

19. Moving next to a major university, then complaining...

...when the university decides to build a stadium on campus.

[mia]

20. People who serve french fries with eggs for breakfast

instead of home fries and grits!
:cry:

I live in an urban Miami neighborhood, that is now mostly Hispanic.
The old restaurants have been bought up, redone, and the traditional breakfast stripped of its heavenly side dishes. Frozen, reheated, dried out, crinkle-cut french fries have taken over.

I love the Cuban toast and cafe con leche though.

[William Bloode]

21. I see this one a lot here.

When folks move in from outside, and then build their own little walled in communities. Then they complain about how the rest of us live.

Seriously, here in my part of the South a local grown well to do may build his mini mansion right in the middle of a bunch of trailers dwellers. But you get folks from out of the area, and they want to live closed off, and sequestered from the rest of us while they complain about how we do things.

[patcox2]

22. Or people who start posting on a bulletin board and think they own it?

They are fun, too.

[EC]

23. My opinion...

run them out...they obviously don't belong. Or tell them these things were usual practice before their arrival and that they are not so important that the whole community has to change to accommodate them.

[MountainLaurel]

24. Such disputes occasionally end in murder

The WashPost wrote a feature in its Sunday Magazine in May on one such dispute involving a fence, some escaped cows, a lawyer turned cattle rancher, and a murder. I can't provide a link because it's through a proprietary database through work, but here's the citation and a few paragraphs as well as a link that may or may not work for you:

The word was, Perry Brooks's bull -- all 2,000 fence-bending pounds of him -- was loose again. And the word, as is sometimes the case in a small farming town, was right.

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Once the prodigal had been located, Brooks's habit was to fire up his truck and go retrieve it, loading it into the back or just tapping it home on foot with the aid of an old hoe-handle and whoever was around to help. That could be a sight to behold. Brooks was worn and bent as an old tree root by decades of hard labor. In recent years, he'd endured open-heart surgery and two hip replacements and had crushed his right hand in a front-end loader. To keep his hip from popping out of joint, he sometimes wore a complicated plastic brace over his dungarees. In combination with the tattered clothing he favored, it gave him the look of Jed Clampett crossed with the Tin Man from "The Wizard of Oz."

But this time, on the third weekend in April 2004, Brooks's bull had crossed into the 675-acre purebred cattle operation of Brooks's neighbor and longtime nemesis, John F. Ames.

Ames, 60, a Richmond lawyer and CPA turned part-time cattle breeder, had spent more than a decade developing a large herd of prized, pedigreed Black Angus cattle. In the years since he'd come to Caroline County, Ames had acquired a reputation as an exacting and ambitious cattleman, a demanding, somewhat aloof figure. Most people who knew him in Caroline were keenly aware that he'd filed more than a dozen lawsuits (and threatened more) against neighbors and business associates since taking over Holly Hill Farm. That reputation for litigiousness left many of his fellow townspeople wanting to keep clear of him.

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The feud started like this: In 1989, about four years after he'd arrived in Caroline, Ames sent each of his neighbors a registered letter announcing his plans to build a new fence. He informed them that, under an 1887 fence law, they would be required to pay for half of whatever section of it ran along their shared property line. Some neighbors would be on the hook for $6,000, some for $12,000. Perry Brooks's share would be more than $45,000.

Blood Feud; Robert Frost said good fences make good neighbors. He never knew John Ames and Perry Brooks; Mary Battiata. The Washington Post. Washington, D.C.: May 22, 2005. pg. W.18