Missile defense system doesn't work if it's foggy.

[karlrschneider]

According to CNN just now. Well how special. :eyes: :grr:

[Poll_Blind]

1. In my opinion it's a hell of alot easier to work for peace, even in...

...difficult situations, than to get a robust real-world missle-defense working. Now, it doesn't pay off so well to the defense companies, but I'm sure they'll understand.

PB

[longship]

4. There is no such thing as a real-world missile defense system.

As today's cancelled-because-of-fog test clearly indicates.

We aren't implementing a missile defense shield. It's more of a missile defense sieve. That's all it can ever be because, as many scientists have already indicated, the circumvention of any such system is completely trivial and cheap to implement.

In this case, all one has to do is target on a foggy day.

And, as previous test conditions indicate, it also helps if the enemy tells us precisely when the missiles are launched and precisely where the missiles are heading.

Ridiculous. We scrapped an international treaty for this?

[Poll_Blind]

7. The phrase "Out of f*cking hand!" comes to mind. n/t

PB

[lectrobyte]

23. Of course it doesn't work. I suspect it hardly mattters, though. What

does matter is that the right companies get the right contracts to make the thing, either way.

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. It doesn't work at all.

Foggy or not. It is the biggest waste of money in world history.

[SpiralHawk]

3. Commander AWOL: "Well, we'll just wage Armageddon when it's sunny."

See, and you thought he was stupid.

[chat_noir]

9. AWOL? Did someone say AWOL?

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[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. News flash...

Missle defense system doesn't work when it's sunny either.

[immoderate]

6. Imagine a bigger boondoggle -- you can't.

The perfect money pit. It'll never work. (If it ever does, our adversaries will devise a countermeasure, and it's back to square one.)

--IMM

[OldSiouxWarrior]

8. Fogs stops the ground cameras from recording the test.

It has nothing to do with the capabilities of the missile itself.

[karlrschneider]

11. Oh, I see. They have no other way to find out if the missile hit the

other missile. Got it.

[OldSiouxWarrior]

17. That is NOT the reason for the cameras.

ALL missile tests are filmed from the start of the launch until the missile is out of camera range. It has always been that way. The reason for that is that the launch is a TEST, and is something goes wrong, they want it on film. Remember that it was video that caught the flame from the space shuttle just before it blew up back in the 80's. From that, and other videos of other launches, they were able to determine that it was the cause. I am not sure, but I think there was video of foam falling off on the recent space shuttle loss.

So, if the cameras can't see the missile taking off, the launch is delayed until they can.

There are other methods to determine is the intercept is successful.

This is NOT a defense of whether or not we should have such a program, or of how effective or ineffective it may be.

I am simply explaining the roll that fog plays in missile tests.

[The_Casual_Observer]

12. Where did you find that excuse?

Even those pentagon bastards would be too embarrassed to proffer a fluff like that!

[OldSiouxWarrior]

18. It happens to be the truth.

Are you aware that ALL missile TESTS are filmed from launch until the missile is beyond camera range? It has ALWAYS been that way, from the very first tests back in the 1950's. If the cameras can't see the missile, the tests are always delayed. The video of the launch is part of the test documentation. If something goes wrong, it can help them figure out what happened.


If they had launched, and something had happened, and because of the fog there was no video, you would be screaming at them for being so stupid as to launch in a fog when the camera couldn't get video of what happened.

[karlrschneider]

19. Well, god forbid we ever do a 'test' when the weather isn't perfect.

And actually, the DOD or whatever shadow gang is running these things didn't even WANT the 'bullet' to hit the target...yet it did. So they can't even get it right when it goes "right." Do you perchance work for one of the contractors involved in this debacle?

[OldSiouxWarrior]

21. That is irrelevant.

As it happens, I am a retired 18-wheel driver. But even if I did work for one of the contractors, logically that has no bearing. 2+2=4, no matter who says it.

The purpose of a test is to test, and they want all the data from a test that they can get. So they want the cameras running to catch everything. It has always been that way, since the first launches in the late 1950's. That is simply a fact.

It has nothing to do with whether the entire idea is a good one or a bad one. That is a different discussion.

[KamaAina]

10. So I guess San Francisco is SOL.

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[lonestarnot]

13. Doesn't work period.

[lonestarnot]

14. Why are you watching CNN when KO is on? Just wondering.

[karlrschneider]

15. KO comes on an hour later here.

...

[lonestarnot]

16. I should have known better! I didn't realize it was you karlschneider.

[leesa]

20. It has never worked under any condition.

[OldSiouxWarrior]

22. Of ten tests, five have hit the other missile. NT