We have to keep our heads during the coming chaos.

[Philosoraptor]

They have very dark plans for America and the world, very dark. We have seen what they are capable of, and we realize that they can do far worse, and will.

I'm braced for almost anything, and I know they will try it too. We should have back up plans, emergency kits, networks to fall back on, relatives we can contact etc. Something neo con this way comes.

They are brinks men, they will take it all the way, they have nothing to lose and the Earth to gain. We real human beings are secondary considerations to these monsters.

Bad shit is headed our way and we need to stay frosty while all the others are in a blind panic, it won't be easy.

Now I'm taking my end of the world sandwich sign out on the streets and start the fanatical screaming.

[whistle]

1. Do "they" have names? Can you be more specific?

[DainBramaged]

2. (sigh) Ok, I'll start the fallout shelter today

[cali]

3. oooh, scary!

and just as alarmist as the other side. All you're doing is repeating another version of the "terra, terra, terra" mantra

[Philosoraptor]

4. laugh it up while you can

[Spider Jerusalem]

5. Who are 'they'?

This talk of an amorphous, undefined, evil and malignant 'they' who are going to do 'bad things' sounds like the rantings of a century and more's worth of conspiracists; depending on the era and the speaker, 'they' have been the Masons, the Illuminati, the Catholic Church, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Group, the Elders of Zion, the evil shape-shifting alien space-lizards...always 'they', but never the same group, and they're always either wholly fictional and born of the fevered imaginings of people profoundly out of touch with reality or ascribed a degree of power that far exceeds their actual reach. Seriously, have the so-called neoconservatives displayed any notable talent save the ability to fuck things up on a grand scale? If Iraq and Afghanistan are taken as examples of their plans in action, one should think that they stand as much chance of attaining whatever their goals are as I do of being crowned Tsar of all the Russias.

[Philosoraptor]

6. you know

[MysteryToMyself]

9. I can take anything "they" can throw at me

I have dealt with their darkness and fear for 6 years. I am now numb. Let the games begin. Or should I say,"Let the "terra" begin."

It is coming, I just don't know if it will be financial terror or physical terror. I suspect it will be physical terror before the election and financial terror after the election, if they win.

Don't ever think you have won against them. Anything they have thought about doing that was voted down, will come up again. They can even terrorize us if they lose, by leaving us penniless, deeply in debt and in several wars.

[Norrin Radd]

7. Whoever said that conflict and chaos weren't the ultimate goal for Iraq,

Afghanistan, and elsewhere?

[theophilus]

14. I think "they" realize that there is more money to be made, more

power to be had, etc. in a state of chaos, fear, and confusion. It IS their plan....imo.

[dipsydoodle]

8. Keeping or losing you head.

Rudyard Kipling quoted below is usually teminated after the first sentence with the next sentence reading - you're may not have a fucking clue as to what's occuring. Maybe he should have stuck to making his exceedingly good cakes.

IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

IF you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

IF you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: `Hold on!'

IF you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

[izzie]

10. I plan to side with what ever zealot I am with. Will that work?

Now if only the fence will stay up-right as I balance on it.

[brokensymmetry]

11. Yep.

There are lots of indicators.

And I agree - it will be brutal.

[rug]

12. Hey, I thought you were Raptured.

[nancyr]

13. I agree with you.