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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:31 AM
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rumsfeld seems like a pissy old man while answering his own questions...
posed by Hillary, she's not letting him go easy though & that is good to see for a change :patriot:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:33 AM
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1. He is an insane pissy old man, who should be convicted
of war crimes and locked up for a long, long time.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:35 AM
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4. that's not possible to disagree with...
and all his nefarious, ill gotten war profits retained :thumbsup:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:47 AM
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15. He's a pissy old man who is just starting to grasp the faintest
idea that he's been WRONG all these years, that the lesson of Vietnam wasn't reshaping the military away from massive land forces dedicated to capturing large areas of territory into a small force capable of striking and killing a lot of people and then leaving, but that the true lesson of Vietnam is that it was simply UNWINNABLE because we should never have been there in the first place.

That lesson is being taught to him by the people of Iraq.

Personally, I think the cost of teaching one pissy old man such a hard lesson is far too high. Saner people at the Pentagon, if there are any sane people at the Pentagon, should have spotted him early enough in his career to keep him completely out of power.

Perhaps that's the lesson Iraq is meant to teach the generation fighting there. I sincerely hope they learn it a lot better than the rich and powerful of my own generation learned the lesson of Vietnam.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:54 AM
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17. for all the loss of blood & treasure the pentagon could have sent...
three cruise missiles a day into & onto some target saddam held dear every freaking day from then till now and beyond, they knew right where he was and that he was going nowhere but they send in rumsfeld and the ham handed tommy franks (another midland tx guy) along with the pathological sanction of bush himself & the bfee, and it all goes to shit

they have learned no lessons, and america herself pays the price once again
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:33 AM
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2. I loved Hillary's comment about Rumsfeld's previous testimony
being "unfulfilled." Nice way of calling the old SOB a liar.

Rummy responded he'd been very "measured" in his words. Hillary requested that the record be kept open, and that Rummy's former remarks be added to it.

Point: Hillary.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:37 AM
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6. i thought that was classy, she clearly 'seen him coming', his shit-talk...
is all over DC, and easily brought up front would be my guess, it is well past time to make this gang answer for their own mistakes in their own words
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:33 AM
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3. That's because he is. n/t
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JHH Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:36 AM
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5. I hope Hillary has the quotes to nail him with
Rummy said "when did I ever mislead this congress"
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:39 AM
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7. heard that..."when", how bout everytime his lips are moving...
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:40 AM
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9. She had a list that she requested be made part of the permanent
record.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:41 AM
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10. My god! He had the balls to say that with a straight face? n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:39 AM
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8. Hilary dropped a bomb...
I don't think Rumsfelds going to recover from it either.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:41 AM
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11. poor rumsfeld...
he'll maybe have to stop his double-speak gibberish and eat his own crow sometime soon
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:58 AM
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19. Has he made mistakes? Of course. Were the deliberate?
He'd say no. Could he have been less defensive? He doesn't know, you tell him.

Freakin' blathering maniac makes me want to slap him silly, and that's in addition to the horrible atrocities and war crimes he's committed.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:02 AM
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24. dude that's exactly the way he 'talks'...
:rofl: but then it's all like x(

:hi:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:11 AM
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28. I know, he drives me insane! I figured he had stopped that, but I heard
him again the other day, doing the same routine.

He's just not a smart or competent person. Otherwise he'd just answer questions directed at him. His little question-answer is his way of cutting off further questions, and reframing questions he doesn't like so that he can answer them better. A sign of a dishonest, insecure manipulator.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:19 AM
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32. it's the mark of a bullshitter, they just keep talking shit till the...
room empties out, or people give up...and that's when they write their own ticket :thumbsdown:
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:42 AM
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13. It was like
she slapped him, priceless look on his face, he sure didn't expect that, LOL
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:50 AM
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16. Yeah, he went straight into patronizing white old man mode...
"My goodness!"
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:42 AM
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12. It seems like everyone in the Bush administration that I've seen
in the past few weeks is sounding like a pissy old man. Their demeanor has changed and they all look worried. Bush, Rice, Rumsfeld, all of them, are definitely showing signs of strain that haven't been apparent before. I am afraid that they have something in the works and that something big is getting ready to happen.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:46 AM
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14. i think that's right, i think all this talk about an asymmetrical war...
is one thing and we clearly have to aware of whomever is trying to kill us,

but they have fought the whole thing 'on the cheap' AND symmetrically and it has all failed; it is a hellish nightmare and no longer acceptable to simply spout back "war is hell get used to it"
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:55 AM
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18. Required disposition for war criminals.
History will not be kind to this old fuck.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:01 AM
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22. interestingly, he mentioned there was no historical precedent for his...
'singular & unique war action', history is replete with winners & losers, my sense is that these are willing to tip the entire game board over and declare their loss of diplomatic & war plan savvy a victory before having to admit they were ever wrong
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:58 AM
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20. How did someone who is so whiney get so much power?
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 11:05 AM by The Backlash Cometh
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:00 AM
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21. He whined to someone who likes whiners
Bush has no self-confidence, despite the fake swagger. He prefers whiners who will suck up to him (no, no dirty joke required) rather than confident, honest people who might challenge Bush and tell him how stupid he is.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:02 AM
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23. Seems Like? He is a pissy old man
who is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people....
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:05 AM
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25. well...you know me, the very image of decorum & diplomacy...
:rofl:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:05 AM
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26. Should we have another "Talk like Rummy" thread? You Betcha!
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 11:05 AM by Canuckistanian
He's definitely a few fries short of a Happy Meal.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:07 AM
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27. "is it a timely consideration to consider? of course it is."
:rofl: :thumbsup:
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:14 AM
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29. Hey, you kids, get off my lawn!
Do I want kids on my lawn? My goodness.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:15 AM
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30. pft...
:spray: :thumbsup:
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cracksquirrel Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:16 AM
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31. *Jon Stewart voice*:
I'm old! I'm Donald Rumsfeld, all your questions are confusing me!
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:19 AM
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33. you got it...
:-)
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