FILM LOVERS UNITE!

[K8-EEE]

Wassup with Ariana among others, acting like Mel Gibson should not be allowed to work any more.

I say throw the book at him for everything he did, but since when are film directors supposed to be not crazy?

God save us from Nice Normal Guy directors like the insipid Ron Howard, although I'm sure he's a lovely person, his movies make me feel beaten up.

That goes for Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, DW Griffith, Alfred Hitchcock or whoever -- God save us from the horrors of "nice guy" film directors, with a few notable exceptions (George Clooney for one!) it is a medium for mad geniuses. You don't have to LIKE them personally to love their films! A true film lover would never ban a good director from the business just for being nuts.

[Mz Pip]

1. Perhaps Mel just crossed the line.

This outburst was not something that showed some personal weakness that Hollywood is all too used to.

His remarks showed a hatred and contempt for a whole lot of people he works with. Hard to turn that around. He just plain offended too many people. Whether or not this is a career breaker is yet to be seen. But if I were a Jewish producer or go to money man it's unlikely I'd be forking over the bucks to finance one of his films.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[K8-EEE]

4. But Doesn't That Prove The Point

Of people who say "the Jews run everything" or "they have a conspiracy" or whatever. Shouldn't it be about the work rather than if a person holds bigoted views?

You know at the museum of tolerance they have two doors, one for people with no prejudices and one for people with prejudices, and the no prejudice one doesn't open because we all have them. When you start blacklisting people -- I'm not with that.

[Mz Pip]

12. I don't think it's about blacklisting

It's more about there being consequences for hateful bigotted rhetoric. I doubt there will be pressure put on money guys to slight Gibson. They will make their own choices. Maybe he'll come up with some awesome project that people will jump on board about but that is yet to be seen.

I wouldn't give the time of day to someone like Gibson. Does that make me prejudiced? I don't think so.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[KharmaTrain]

7. That's Where The Damage Has Been Done

Mel pissed off a lot of big money...which is controlled by Hollywood Jewish interests...with his previous antics and some of the things attributed to him during the Passion Of Christ fiasco. It's one thing to show a human frailty as alcoholism as a self-affliction, but Mel crossed a big line with his oversized ego and mouth. Had he blurted out bullshit...threatened the cops and just came off as your typical Nick Nolte/Robert Downy self-destructive type, then there'd be sympathy and people standing up for him. Hollywood loves a good second or third act.

By spewing anti-Semetic claptrap...almost as though it was triggered in him...it showed how deep and powerful that hate was. It didn't take long to get out of his semi-conscious system. Now Mel's gonna pay for it.

I agree, there's not going to be a Producer or Studio that will want to go near the guy...he's burned the bridges and all but blew up the supports. Surely he'll try some type of comeback through independent films, his day as a Hollywood high roller are over. His ability to get financing for any major project...as witnessed on how fast Disney dropped his "Holocoust" :wtf: TV mini-series as an example. They'll probably slip his next movie to a third-party...like they ended up doing with Farenheit 911...and wash their hands of anything to do with him. After that, Mel's on his own.

This is as much a slur and slam at the hands that feed him than it is a shot at all Jews. I could care less about the shit-for-brains...never cared for his movies and couldn't care less about what happens to him. However, in the fragile world of popular culture, he's pissed in a lot of cornflakes and it's personal. He's toast.

Cheers...

[indygrl]

13. He has probably been watching

the news (like most of us) and has had the Leb. destruction on his mind alot. That doesn't excuse it, but I understand it. One of my jewish friends who served in the Israeli army, gets so furious when talking about the arab countries, she'd like to bomb them all, and this was before this episode. She's very feisty and ready to fight at the drop of a hat, but very kind in other ways.

[liberalmuse]

2. It depends on the kind of crazy...

There's "crazy" as in the eccentricity of Hitchcock or "crazy" like those lovable, perveted mugs Polanski and Allen who like to date/rape young teens, and then there's "Tom Cruise crazy/annoying". I don't know that fanatical members of creepy cults make good directors (or actors...or human beings). I have to admit I'm all for Mel Gibson not working anymore, but that has more to do with seeing "What Women Want" than with his DUI arrest.

[K8-EEE]

3. What About Braveheart Though?

Yes he has had some stinkers but he's a good director, IMO....

We don't know the type of crazy of the directors (or other staff) of 99% of the movies we watch -- I just think they should be judged on the work.

[Hissyspit]

8. "Braveheart" was way over-rated.

Just another version of Gibson's concept of the Christ martyr story, as if that's the only story that has ever been of any value, as if his is the only interpretation of the Christ story. The historical inaccuracies of that film reach the ludicrous.

[liberalmuse]

9. I have not seen it...

It's probably the only movie he's directed I would like to see. My friend says it is well-loved where she's from (Edinburgh).

[K8-EEE]

11. I Really Liked It....

There's no successful movie that some don't consider "overrated," so don't go by that.

[NYCGirl]

5. If Gibson ever makes a film that's comparable with anything Hitchcock,

Griffith (even without the excreble "Birth of a Nation"), Ford, Huston or even Frank Tashlin ("The Girl Can't Help It", "Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?" and some of the Martin & Lewis pics) ever did, let me know. Comparing him to the greats is nuts.

[K8-EEE]

10. TASHIN!!

omg he's one of my fave directors. I think Mel is talented although not even approaching that level....def not even on my top 100 list, however, he's better than most (Ron Howard my personal pet peeve.)

My point is that since there exists wacky, brilliant film directors it shouldn't be a requirement that they be sane in order to work.

[Hissyspit]

6. I am not for blacklisting.

That would be particularly hypocritical. But since Mel's movies for the most part generally suck, I could care less if he ever makes another.