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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:26 PM
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Sick of RED STATES getting extra tax dollars back- another 2006 motivation
These IDIOTS vote for the GOP, then suck federal funds FAR in excess of what they put in tax wise:

http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/266.html

I'm TIRED of Red states like Mississippi getting $1.77 in OUR federal funds for every $1.00 they put in.
I'm TIRED of Red states like Alaska getting $1.87 in OUR federal funds for every $1.00 they put in.
I'm TIRED of Red states like North Dakota getting $1.73 in OUR federal funds for every $1.00 they put in.
I'm TIRED of Red states like Alabama getting $1.71 in OUR federal funds for every $1.00 they put in.

And on and on...

Meanwhile, look at the bottom states, those who give WAY more than they receive in federal funds. What a shock...almost ALL blue states.

PDF:

http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/ftsbs-20060316.pdf

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:32 PM
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1. I agree Jack and I live in Mississippi
Its hard to tell what the money is spent for; certainly not trash pickup along the highways. These ingrates just chuck it out as they go down the highway to the trailor park. Maybe some of that federal funding could be used to provide Mississippi residents gas money for their lawn mowers which sit idle most of the summer. Street maintenance is poor at best. I'm not a parent so I am not too close to how funds are used in the schools but observing local youngins I think its fair to say that education isn't a top priority.
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LordLovesAWorkingMan Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:41 PM
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2. Political acumen?
I think that may have more to do with the ability of politicians to secure dollars for their constituencies, along with federal project money plus welfare payments and the like. I don't mind welfare going to where it's needed, and if that means that the Deep South gets more than it pays in, then so be it. The other stuff, though, seems a little unfair.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:54 PM
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6. Isn't it a tad hypocritical then...
That these same politicians securing more federal dollars for their states then they put in, are consistently extolling the virtues of a smaller government and talking about how evil in general government is? These are the states that bitch and moan the most about paying taxes, yet they receive the most benefit from their tax dollars.
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LordLovesAWorkingMan Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:01 PM
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9. Sure it is
But the politicians don't control every nickel that enters their jurisdictions. And I think a job requirement of all politicians is to be appropriately hypocritical at all times.

But to magnify the point, irrespective of who says what, or party affiliation, I am all for disproportionate spending if the local tax base can't or won't support appropriate job training programs, etc., alongside welfare payments and so forth to help families who can't get by in this crazy economy.

I'd be interested to see if local tax breaks make the problem worse.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:04 PM
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12. Hi LordLovesAWorkingMan!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:43 PM
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3. Isn't it wonderful how their politicians bring the money home
while denouncing big government? I wonder how many of those dollars represent Defense Department spending? If we had those numbers, we might see where some of the pressure to maintain a huge arsenal comes from.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:45 PM
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4. Red State Welfare Queens
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:53 PM
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5. I don't have a big problem with poorer states getting more aid
I live in Connecticut and I do not have a huge problem with this – some of the poorer states need more in the way of services, upgrading of infrastructure, etc than states like Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey, etc. Just like how the income tax used to be designed to help redistribute wealth from the richest to those in need (until Reagan came along, at least)

And, don't get me wrong, Connecticut, and I'm sure Mass & NJ, too, has plenty to do in helping the poorest in our states, upgrading our infrastructure, improving our schools, etc.

What I do have a problem with, however, is that many of these same people that get the benefit of this government largesse in one way are the first ones to complain about the federal government when they see somebody not like them (i.e., not white, or not Christian, not straight, etc.) getting maybe a different sort of aid...conveniently forgetting that they have their own government benefits. And, these folks that get angry about them different folks getting aid tend to prime targets for being convinced to vote against their own self-interests in the name of moral values...
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:58 PM
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7. Red State Welfare Queens, most notably in the southeast.
Many of these people are the first ones to complain about big government while taking millions of dollars into their own coffers. It's sickening.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:59 PM
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8. Our govt's big, ugly secret. Big Govt. haters get the most!! Alaska..nt
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RedStateShame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:01 PM
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10. Solution: Re-secede!!!!
Hell, I never got a clear answer on what Kentucky did during the Civil War, so maybe it will be a border state again. Nonetheless, it's a pretty good nuclear option, and Red States, as Bill Maher once said, "Give my regards to President Charlie Daniels."
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:16 PM
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11. So poorer states get more tax dollars. The real question is...
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 01:18 PM by Dob Bole
why are the poor states red?

I live in the 9th poorest congressional district in the U.S... a blue district in a red state. The public schools in my county are much more fortunate than in the surrounding counties, but the amount of poverty is still very evident. Yet with the exception of President Carter's home of Sumter County, black people in our district are Democrats and white people are Republicans. Why? The easy answer is that white people are mad about the Civil Rights movement 40 years ago...but it's the wrong answer. Carter carried my state twice, and Clinton also did very well here. Georgia's current Republican governor is the ONLY Republican governor that we've ever had. Besides Massachusetts, President Kennedy got the most votes here.

Theoretically, working people should be Democrats. But I see hard-working people every day who are too proud to receive government assistance. They're poor, but aren't part of your numbers, and recently they vote Republican in federal elections. How have Bush, Clinton, and Carter appealed to these people in a way that Gore and Kerry didn't? That is the question.

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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:19 PM
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13. boo hoo hoo -- that chart is highly fishy
it claims louisiana gets more than it takes, yet louisiana has for many decades had its offshore oil taken w.out any royalties paid

gov. blanco has just filed a lawsuit aga. the federal gov't to stop any more leases from being drilled until we get our fair share of the billions of dollars of irreplaceable fossil fuel taken every damn year!

we've had trillions of resources stolen from our state over the decades, TRILLIONS

and you dare complain because we get some piss-ant fraction of what we give back in highway funds?

that chart isn't just a lie, it's a damned lie

we have been looted and treated as a colony for years

now perhaps the other states mentioned are slackers who don't contribute anything, i have no idea, i just know the situation here

we have been robbed and no two ways about it
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:06 PM
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14. Tell you what,
Louisiana can keep the oil, and New York and Massachusetts will keep there money and develop alternate fuels, OK?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 09:17 AM
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15. That's Exxon's oil, not Louisiana's. Thank Eisenhower for that.
Truman wanted offshore resources to belong to the govt., and Eisenhower handed them to private interests.

And, no, there's nothing fishy about this list. The country's internal balance of payments has always skewed towards the red states.
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