Can people ever unlearn the lie of a connection between 911 and Iraq?

[undeterred]

I am amazed at how many people still believe this. "They attacked us."

"Who attacked us? No one from Iraq has ever attacked this country. Saddam Hussein did not attack the United States".

Blank stare. "I have no sympathy for those people after what they did to us".

Who do you mean by "they"?

Then I realize the question I am asking is just too hard. How is she supposed to know who "they" are. Our government would never attack innocent people, so "they" must be responsible.

Do people actually believe that the whole Arab world attacked us on 911 and "they" all deserve to die? I don't even believe the 911 cover story, but here is someone who doesn't even know the cover story blames bin Laden and Al Qaeda and not Iraq.

Here is the average American.

[still_one]

1. quite sad, but unfortunately when ideology trumps truth

that is what happens

[genie_weenie]

2. "I have no sympathy for those people after what they did to us".

That statement sums up what has happened to mankind throughout history. That is the view every person holds regarding his enemies. My enemies are a they which means violent, stupid, immoral and sub-human.

[nam78_two]

3. Really?

Is there anyone outside of the "backwash" that even believes that anymore? How depressing.....

[undeterred]

5. Yes indeed.

Many of our soldiers in Iraq still believe it.

People who are not newshounds believe it.

Listening to lies and believing them expends a lot less energy than looking for the truth.

[napi21]

4. Those who still believe that are making a mental excuse

to justify, in their own minds, that their fearless leader premptively attacked Iraq. For some reason, they really believe in this idiot, and they have to justify his insane actions in their own minds.

[undeterred]

6. I don't think this person is a Bush fan

although she may not hate him.

This was a 3 way conversation between myself and 2 female security guards where I work. The one who was ex-military hates Bush and how he is exploiting our troops. "When you are in the military, you have to obey your commander even if he's a fool" was her comment. I think the other person is just spectacularly uninformed.

[ariellyn]

7. Not when the media keeps the connection out there

Like in this thread I started...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1702767

[EST]

8. Throughout history the human critter has shown a quite

remarkable propensity for believing lies over truth, almost every time. Somehow they are more comfortable with that. I say "they" because there are always some, scattered here and there, that manage to see through the bullshit and are willing to be labeled as nuts or weirdos. I tend to hang out with that type.
Mark Twain said something to the effect that a lie could travel around the world before the truth could get its pants on. It is ever thus.

[CrispyQ]

9. My mother looked at me like I was off my rocker

when I told her that Hussein & bin Laden don't like each other. She recovered with, "They don't have to like each other to work together." She honestly believes that faux news is "the best news out there." :eyes: For a short period of time I tried to reach out to her, but these people bristle when presented with facts. And when you ask them for their facts, their sources, they brush off the entire discussion with some right wing one liner, usually one trumpeted by Sean, Rush or Bill.

The backwash are going to hang on till the end.

The rich will stay because they support the true agenda -- the looting & hoarding of vital assets via the corporatization of America. The religious zealots will stay because the Bible tells them to. The ones like my mom want to stomp around this planet & show the world that America is still number one. "You mess with the bull you get the horns!" They are having difficulty coming to terms with America's slide from top of the pile. Some feel entitled, some are misinformed, some are truly frightened, & some are just mean, racist, bullies, but one thing is clear: our downfall is getting worse & more apparent every day.

[undeterred]

10. We are moving to the bottom of the pile

morally and economically.

[ladjf]

11. I'm afraid that the misinformation is permanently tattooed on their

brains.

[DELUSIONAL]

12. bush is very good at "catapulting the propaganda"

It was the neocon's goal to link Iraq and 9/11 in everyone's mind -- and to a large part they have succeeded.

Tell a lie often enough and the lie becomes "truth" -- or common knowledge.

It takes great effort to deprogram the masses. I've heard Randi Rhodes do it -- she keeps asking if one of the 9/11 hijackers was from Iraq. Eventually the person will back away from the Iraq was involved linkage.

The shock of seeing the video images of the Twin Towers -- and immediately people hear IRAQ -- there is an Primitive emotional link. The neocon's use this emotional vulnerability of the masses. Which then begs the question -- was 9/11 a Let It Happen On Purpose -- or MIHOP. Rummy was running around -- demanding a link between 9/11 and Iraq be found while the Pentagon was still burning -- after that building was hit on 9/11.

It seems that the neocons are up to their eyeballs in everything bad that is happening in this world.